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grah0140

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Decent models for this type of gameplay in no particular order:

Mistral-Small-22B-ArliAI-RPMax-v1.1
Wayfarer_Eris_Noctis-Mistralified-12B
Rocinante-12B-v1.1
MN-Violet-Lotus-12B
MN-12B-Mag-Mell-R1

These models can handle either chat or generating text adventure games.
 

ayyyp

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It feels like DeepSeek with chutes.ai is no longer available for free. The information about 200 calls per day seems untrue as well.
I'm already paying, openrouter is pretty good price wise. Been using Janitor with deepseek V3 0324 daily and so far i've spent 11 euros.
 

ayyyp

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Care to elaborate why you pick janitor over chub AI?
Mostly because I'm lazy, I have my prompt saved and my personas set up. Then I just have to pick the bot and can adjust that however I want with OOC.

It's comfy to use on mobile and thats about it, ill soon use chub as well when i am done with understanding what all the options do.
 
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Mostly because I'm lazy, I have my prompt saved and my personas set up. Then I just have to pick the bot and can adjust that however I want with OOC.

It's comfy to use on mobile and thats about it, ill soon use chub as well when i am done with understanding what all the options do.
I revisited Janitor AI a few days ago using DeepSeek V3-0324. I have to say that the stability is a little bit better than with Chub, because with Chub, for some reason, I have a lot of streaming issues and some responses never stream back consistently.

I don't see that with Janitor. Maybe it's the general amount of users on the platform, maybe something else. But the story quality that I got was much better for some reason with Janitor. I'm using the same sys prompts everywhere.
 

ayyyp

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I revisited Janitor AI a few days ago using DeepSeek V3-0324. I have to say that the stability is a little bit better than with Chub, because with Chub, for some reason, I have a lot of streaming issues and some responses never stream back consistently.

I don't see that with Janitor. Maybe it's the general amount of users on the platform, maybe something else. But the story quality that I got was much better for some reason with Janitor. I'm using the same sys prompts everywhere.
Ok that's reassuring to hear because I also think that the quality at Janitor is way better. But I thought that was because I didn't set up chub good enough.
 
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Couple of things that I have found useful.

- Markdown formatting to describe my thoughts and actions is with italics.
- Markdown to format my direct speech is with "quotes in bold text".

Both of these really help to keep things not only clean but also to get better quality of behavior and responses from the bot. Before, I only did a sloppy version of it without double quotes and without formatting, and it was the reason I didn't get much.
 
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PS. Punctuation marks also matter, which is a little bit unexpected. I use speech recognition software now to dictate my inputs, which get automatic punctuation marks like commas and periods and split my speech into sentences.
 

ayyyp

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So I've set up sillytavern now and i have to say the results are pretty good so far, it has a huge amount of settings you can modify and you can integrate lorebooks and characters straight from chub.

It's also way more intuitive than chub imo. I'll probably use this and Janitor in the future, can't use sillytavern on the phone.
 
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So I've set up sillytavern now and i have to say the results are pretty good so far, it has a huge amount of settings you can modify and you can integrate lorebooks and characters straight from chub.

It's also way more intuitive than chub imo. I'll probably use this and Janitor in the future, can't use sillytavern on the phone.
Chub is basically SillyTavern in the cloud.
 
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I've reached the peak of role-playing and completely lost interest. I want to share my experience: I got the best results on Chub, where there are more diverse bots. Janitor allows the use of free APIs (Mistral, Groq, Cerebras), but keep in mind: using your Groq key might get you banned for breaking the rules. The advantage of Chub over Janitor is the ability to create multitask prompts and customize character descriptions. On Chub, you can achieve a character staying in character 99.5% of the time, which you can't do on Janitor.

Right now, the most impressive language models are GPT-5 Chat and Claude Sonnet 3.7. ChatGPT-5 leads in character development and descriptions. Based on personal experience, it's easy to jailbreak without special methods, and the quality of its intimate scene descriptions is superb.

If you're interested in erotic descriptions, like those in romance novels, then Gemini 2.5 Pro and Gemini Flash are your good friends. System prompts that work great for ChatGPT-5 and Claude 3.7 don't work for Gemini. I often ran into Content Filters. Keep in mind: you could lose money and not get the story you want if you go beyond what's allowed in Google LLMs. However, their pricing policy is significantly more lenient than Anthropic's.

Models like mini can create erotic stories on the level of Gemini Flash, but they refuse to generate explicitly sexual content. Flirting and soft erotic undertones are permissible. At the same time, OpenAI Mini models, including ChatGPT 5 Mini, are among the most affordable in terms of price.

Of the free models, you should use DeepSeek v3 0324, Qwen3 A22 235b 0527, and Kimi K2 (content filtered as well but workaround is to reroll) from Moonshot AI. I've heard good things about GLM 4.5.

Most of the mentioned models are available for free on OpenRouter. If Kimi K2 refuses to generate content, delete the message and reroll. After 4-5 attempts, you will get the desired result.

I cannot give specific advice on sampling parameters. API vendors like Mistral, Groq, Cerebras often do not support all the necessary parameters. Rule of a thumb: when using paid ChatGPT and Claude models, you can increase the temperature to 1.20 without issues, while maintaining a high frequency penalty close to 1 and up to 1.10. It's not straightforward with open models. DeepSeek V3 and Kimi K2 usually work well at a temperature of up to 1.10. Qwen is unstable at that temperature; it's better to use it at 0.7-0.9.
 
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Here you'll find a multi-module prompt. To be honest, I haven't used it, but many people praise it.
 

Doner077

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Small experiments with ai again, latest version of chroma for realistic results
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And the workflow for comfyui if anyone wants to give it a go
 
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