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My bad, I misunderstood your post.I know that. I took that pic from the link you mentioned.
I was talking about the pic @TheMagister said it was traced, of Ayame riding Melvin. I'm too lazy to download the game or look through the multiple pages of the Fleeting Iris CG set on sadpanda, so i leave to those who care enough about it to do the job.
From a quick glance, I don't think they are traced (i haven't overlayed them myself to know for sure.) They are clearly used as a reference, though, and that shouldn't be breaking any laws, as far as i know.
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Rule #1: Be respectful. Opinions are fine, attacks are not; This includes trolling, belittling, etc.
Name-calling and personal insults negates your position, or at the very least gets your posts deleted.
For reals, please simmer down.
Name-calling and personal insults negates your position, or at the very least gets your posts deleted.
For reals, please simmer down.
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I don't think you can consider it a reference anymore when it's literally just taking the entire CG set's poses of another pornographic game's sex scene with a different art style. I'm not trying to be harsh or anything, but would this not be considered plagiarism if a licensed hentai game tried doing the same? Lilith has been known to send DMCA notices for these kind of things, so they should be very careful with the Taimanin Asagi stuff.
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The Taimanin Asagi 2 Image is a clear example of skirting the line on tracing & just copying another image. Now that you guys mention it, I'm found about two other CGs that appear to be copies of other eroge CGs that I've seen before, though it'll take some time for me to remember which game they're from to compare.
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The similarities with the cowgirl one are the position and the fact that they're both using a nightgown that is not even similar to begin with. The lilith one is clearly the reference but now you guys are reaching. "If you flip the image and then amplify it by 30 and then put on the right sunlight copy it again and place the second one overlaying with a different hue and then apply a wind stagger and then flip it back over it's almost the exact same picture!" just stop.
It's sad that the "14 year old" offended so many people in his explanation but he had a point. It's like people are trying to sue everyone that did a doggystyle scene in porn after the first porn ever did it. It's coming to the point where people go "I see a penis and a vagina it's clearly tracing".
It was announced for halloween just last Thursday. Where did you get this Tuesday info?
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Can we just enjoy the game without comparing and judging?
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You don't have to do any image flipping or cherry pick specifics to see an obvious case of someone going past the point of referencing and outright copying sets. The images may not be traced but they are clearly copies of the examples posted. You can look at the angle and how close the characters are too the camara, as well as how extremely close things line up to each other. Nobody is pointing to a sex position and calling it a day here. You can't even hold on to the whole "Well you can only do so much with sex positions" argument when there's non-sex related images that are near 1:1 right here. The three posted aren't the only cases either.
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What's the point of having these threads (past sharing DL links and updates) if we can't criticize things? Why the double standard between this game and others?
Context?
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@NBV I concur that the sex scene is more than referencing, but that standing portrait you used is a stretch. That particular pose is exceedingly common, including the hand in the hair. I'm betting I've seen it at least 50 times. I would say that is a better example of referencing at best. The hair is different, including completely different shading and fall. The hand and arm are in a different position. The outfit is completely different, and the only similar shading is on the breasts. Even if he did use this picture as a reference, the changes are major enough that it shouldn't matter. Also, there is no way this particular comparison would earn a takedown beyond maybe the bigger company muscling the indie artist.
I do believe the artist cut corners on the cowgirl scene though, that one is a much better example of going beyond referencing. I will also point out that professional artists copy assets quite frequently. Disney is particular is known for reusing assets. They are their assets, sure, but it's still tracing another person's work. I've always been of the mindset that if you take the artwork and change it enough to fit the current game that I'm not distracted playing it, why does it matter?
I do believe the artist cut corners on the cowgirl scene though, that one is a much better example of going beyond referencing. I will also point out that professional artists copy assets quite frequently. Disney is particular is known for reusing assets. They are their assets, sure, but it's still tracing another person's work. I've always been of the mindset that if you take the artwork and change it enough to fit the current game that I'm not distracted playing it, why does it matter?
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So I talked to Starke and he stated that sometimes when his view is not getting across, he picks hentai pictures out of google to use as reference when he wants to tell Muku in what position the character should be drawn. He said that some pictures out of all the 100+ they have in their game were too close to the original to the point they had to edit or scrap them entirely and this last one from TA was just the case and he is considering changing it later on.
I asked him to point out which images were references and he says he can't remember but the two I showed him with the hand in the hair and the cowgirl scenes he never seen them before and he says that for the standing picture with the hand in the hair he didn't even use a reference to explain it.
That explains a lot.
I asked him to point out which images were references and he says he can't remember but the two I showed him with the hand in the hair and the cowgirl scenes he never seen them before and he says that for the standing picture with the hand in the hair he didn't even use a reference to explain it.
That explains a lot.
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That's RPG Maker MV only. This is created in VX Ace. Also asked Starke about a port and he said that maybe when the game is finished so we all know that won't be for at least another year.
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The standing image was only brought up as an example of there being more than one image from the same game, so it couldn't be easily dismissed as a coincidence. The point was that there's more than one Inraku no Miko "reference" there for some users to just call it a coincidental sex position. The standing pose isn't as nearly as bad as the sex scene but you can't use the sex pose argument when it's obviously using more than one.
I just feel like its a very dangerous precedent to normalize copying another hentai game's sex scenes and calling it different enough just because the outfit and hair style is different. The hair style is always going to be subject to change when you're replacing it with a character has a different hair style entirely. The clothing thing follows the same logic. If they were wearing the same lingerie would it then count as going too far? What does that say about the rest of the image if an article of clothing is enough to count as completely changed. Does replacing the fat guy's belly with a fatter one count too? Even the breast shape/positioning and nipples are near 1:1, only being barred by the difference in art and coloring style. I think the main issue is that it's taking it from another porn game of the same genre. Taking it from a porn or jav scene wouldn't be as bad, or bad at all.
There's hundreds of Netorare hentai games on the market which use similar sex positions, but none of them are anywhere this close. I just don't get why others are trying to imply that this sort of thing is bound to happen due to sex positions being similar, when out of the +300 NTR games and around 1k Hentai games in general have not had a single case like this. That doesn't mean all this guy's work is copied or he's a bad person, but let's not skirt around these few images being a case of laziness.
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I think you're just seeing a lot of similarities where we're not. That's all. To me those two examples you just posted are worlds apart. Breasts are "similar" in the sense that they're big breasts? Ayame's are rounder while the other girl's are pointy and more realistic. They're both using night clothes. In my mind that's about it but to each his own.
On the same subject. I've seen dozens of games where the blowjob under the desk scene look exactly the same from dozens of others almost to the point where it looks like tracing but in how many ways can you actually draw that scene?
Unrelated. Not trying to sugar pick your words but you don't actually think the number of hentai games out there is anywhere close to 1000, right? The number you can find on e-hentai for instance is above 25000 there alone. If I'd have to guess there's probably over twice that amount of hentai games out there.
On the same subject. I've seen dozens of games where the blowjob under the desk scene look exactly the same from dozens of others almost to the point where it looks like tracing but in how many ways can you actually draw that scene?
Unrelated. Not trying to sugar pick your words but you don't actually think the number of hentai games out there is anywhere close to 1000, right? The number you can find on e-hentai for instance is above 25000 there alone. If I'd have to guess there's probably over twice that amount of hentai games out there.