All NSFW games on Itch are now hidden by default.

[JamCrumpet]

I never said that. I never implied that.

Funny. Because you literally did say, in this thread, its "right" because its the law.

If it is factually correct, then yes I am right.
This has NOTHING to do with what you think is right. It does have 100% to do with what's "legal"

Someone says its not right that you can stone a gay to death in the ME, and the law needs challenging, and you say "no it IS right because its the law, doesnt matter what you THINK is right, its 100% to do with what is legal"
laws change, bub. Payment processors should not be involved in legal transactions. Period

They are a SERVICE, they also benefit from the lack of accountability, if I pay for ** using their SERVICE, they arent held accountable. And yet they want their cake and eat it too because they also want to be able to dictate what I can and cannot pay for by using their service as a weapon. They dont want accountability for the consequences of being hands on, but they want the benefits of being hands on. Cant have it both ways

The insidious thing of this duopoly is "if you use an alternative payment partner, we will pull our service" This blatantly violates EU anti trust trading laws. You cannot, for example, cut someones power because they used a competitor, thats how you get monopolies.

But let me guess, you will either ignore this entirely, cherry pick responses and ignore arguments you cant fight, or just deflect with a bad faith take because all you can do is suck the cock of the corporations.
You cannot even understand the simple concept of the canary that just died in the coal mine and why we all think this is bad.

 

[Omega Games]

Unlike Steam, they didn’t even have the professionalism to give us a warning before pulling such a ridiculous move.

Beyond this terrible handling by Itch, I want to highlight how serious this is as a precedent for adult content developers.

If a monopoly like Mastercard/VISA can do whatever it wants, then every sexual taboo is at risk. And we’re talking about sex, which is always considered taboo in different ways depending on the culture we live in.
Tomorrow it might be Koikatsu creators, the day after those of us using AI CG. And after that? Maybe they’ll decide to ban games that feature alcohol (even if it’s not consumed during sexual scenes), then maybe those that include smoking, and eventually even ones that depict sex outside of marriage.

What I’m saying is: if nothing is done at a bureaucratic level, they’ll be able to take away our income within a matter of hours.

 

[Lupiscanis]

unless its pedobait cuties! They loved that one!

I think that's slightly disingenuous.

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was an article written by their movement director (what a weird title) and I think that it's easily arguable that the film doesn't glorify pedophilia in any way, unlike how games such as No Mercy clearly do for incest and rape (not that I care about the content in pornographic games, I'm just pointing out that people don't play Rapelay to discuss it's ethics).

Reminder they also tried to kill Detroit become human, so theyre clearly unhinged hags. I dont think their politics matter.

I agree that their take on Detroit was dumb. The game is cleared designed to foster empathy, not glorify the abuse in the game. I don't think they singled this out though did they? (I could be wrong, I just didn't hear anything much about it). I thought this was part of a larger push against any kind of game with abuse in it, which is pretty stupid because without nuance you can't have a good discussion imo.

 

[The Goblin Archives]

Fuck my life.

 

[balitz Method]

Hell, maybe if they do actually go for 'all the LGBTQ+ stuff' that the fearmonger talking points insist are going to be next, we might have some shot for proper public discourse over this, but for that exact reason I feel like the perps here are going to stay on their lane (as they have for a long time, even if they have only started cracking down on enforcement in the last couple of years). They might have an agenda, but as shown here, they have been pretty apt at getting their agenda written into policy, which means they probably aren't moron.

Liberals willing to play PTA mom because they can't see the fckn pattern just end up enabling them through complacency, yeah. Targeting porn games is targeting queer people. Just look at the highest-earning and most popular games, the ones that literally set the standard for what a western porn game would even look like. The generic harem games are fighting for scraps at the foot of the Corruption of Champions family tree.

This is a direct attempt to cut off their income.

 

[curseofthesky]

They cave in after 1000 of calls from collective shout, let them know how you feel as well:

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This same group tried to ban GTA 5 and Detroit becomes human in Australia. Religion is one hell of a drug.

 

[EETPMC]

I'd argue they are a socially conservative platform and although non-political, their values line up with people who lean right.

The problem is that you can't really translate their actions into politics, but people who lean left would be unlikely to make this organisation (in my opinion).

The only conservative aspect of their mission is that overtly they say they are against sexualization of children. That argument is totally negated when you scroll down their feed a few posts and see them defending Cuties. lol All their talking points are copied direct from progressive era perspectives. For example their rants against Andrew Tate aren't exactly what you would find on libertarian or conservative feeds.

 

[JamCrumpet]

Fuck my life.

we cant, they banned fucking anon.
Also your comment is too sexual, so please delete it otherwise we will close your bank account and leave you with nothing. Thank you!.

kek, seriously though we're going back to no skin above the ankles puritanism.

 

[Aveert]

The only conservative aspect of their mission is that overtly they say they are against sexualization of children. That argument is totally negated when you scroll down their feed a few posts and see them defending Cuties. lol All their talking points are copied direct from progressive era perspectives. For example their rants against Andrew Tate aren't exactly what you would find on libertarian or conservative feeds.

The founder is against abortion and against immigrants. Not exactly a progressive agenda.

 

[EETPMC]

I think that's slightly disingenuous.

You must be registered to see the links

was an article written by their movement director (what a weird title) and I think that it's easily arguable that the film doesn't glorify pedophilia in any way, unlike how games such as No Mercy clearly do for incest and rape (not that I care about the content in pornographic games, I'm just pointing out that people don't play Rapelay to discuss it's ethics).

Cuties definitely glorifies pedophilia in the same way No Mercy glorifies rape. Otherwise you could make the same argument No Mercy is just awareness about rape, which it clearly is not. Not that either should be banned, but the org is definitely destroying their proclaimed mission statement of being against any sexualization of girls in media when the sexualization of underaged girls in media is literally what happens in Cuties.

 

[peterppp]

You got TDS so hard

sir, you are in the wrong thread. the containment thread is here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/politics-general.179388/

 

[EETPMC]

sir, you are in the wrong thread. the containment thread is here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/politics-general.179388/

Read the comment chain my dude. I'm not the on who brought up politics. lol

 

[The Goblin Archives]

we cant, they banned fucking anon.
Also your comment is too sexual, so please delete it otherwise we will close your bank account and leave you with nothing. Thank you!.

kek, seriously though we're going back to no skin above the ankles puritanism.

I'll laugh because if I don't I'll cry

 

[Lupiscanis]

The only conservative aspect of their mission is that overtly they say they are against sexualization of children. That argument is totally negated when you scroll down their feed a few posts and see them defending Cuties. lol All their talking points are copied direct from progressive era perspectives. For example their rants against Andrew Tate aren't exactly what you would find on libertarian or conservative feeds.

1) Most people, not just conservatives, are against the sexualisation of children, let's be clear about that.
2) Their 'movement director' is very clearly conservative/right-leaning.
3) They're conservative in outcomes - bans/censorship/institutional intervention (schools, payment processors etc)
4) Often supported by Christian groups or individuals

Their arguments are however often framed in progression/feminist-leaning ways, which leads to an almost hybridised viewpoint in some cases. I think personally most people would view them as conservative.

And again,

You must be registered to see the links

was an article on cuties. I'm not saying I 100% agree with her viewpoint, but I don't think it's really a solid argument point in this particular discussion. It comes across as more of a strawman than anything.

 

[peterppp]

Read the comment chain my dude. I'm not the on who brought up politics. lol

you were the only one using slurs like TDS, hence -> containment thread

 

[Lupiscanis]

Cuties definitely glorifies pedophilia in the same way No Mercy glorifies rape. Otherwise you could make the same argument No Mercy is just awareness about rape, which it clearly is not. Not that either should be banned, but the org is definitely destroying their proclaimed mission statement of being against any sexualization of girls in media when the sexualization of underaged girls in media is literally what happens in Cuties.

By this logic Shindler's list glorifies genocide and antisemitism.

Just because something contains a particular subject material does not mean it endorses or glorifies it.

Perhaps an analogy that might make sense - Cuties glorifies sexualising children in the same way that Starship Troopers glorifies authoritarianism.

 

[EETPMC]

The founder is against abortion and against immigrants. Not exactly a progressive agenda.

I don't know where the org is against abortion. I could see that though. However, nothing I've seen they have been against immigrants. They're against human trafficking, is that what you mean? Because that's not immigration, that's slavery. lol

 

[Noss]

I mean, if you bothered to take a look at their org, they are pretty obviously not right-leaning. This is one of the issues with political dogmatism. You so desperately want a narrative to be true, you selectively ignore anything that might prove you wrong.

Again, it's hilarious how people immediately blamed Trump, and didn't even realize the org isn't even American. lol

I mean, if YOU bothered to take a look at their org, you'd notice they are partnered with ultra-catholic, anti-abortion, anti-lgbt orgs, But I guess you oh so desperately want your narrative to be true.

 

[JamCrumpet]

Does it matter if theyre fucking conservative or not?
it doesnt matter WHO is fucking you, youre being fucked.
I dont care if they are behind it or not, I dont want ANYONE to have the power to censor any art that isnt illegal.

 

[EETPMC]

you were the only one using slurs like TDS, hence -> containment thread

It's almost like my first comment was a reply to someone.

Again, you might want to read the comment threads before you post here. lol