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Yup, it isn't indexed. But wait... there's more...

Mouthwashing has not been indexed since well before the recent sweep of NSFW games. "This game hasn't been indexed since October 2024 since it doesn't meet our indexing criteria," the company wrote. "The developers are using a 'Download' button as a link to Steam. The developer took down any playable files form this page in 2024."


And even though it was deindexed --- it's still on itch today:
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Just like it was back in October 2024:
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Yeah, I saw it. Reddit's worse than clickbait journalism, and I'm dumb for falling for it. :HideThePain:

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It's due to a publishing deal.

Itch.io isn't seen as profitable enough (and easily piratable)

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And I'm the paranoid one in this thread?
I'm not paranoid - I was just showing that the reports of its "death" was exaggerated and for others not to seep into confirmation bias.
 
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Yeah, I saw it. Reddit's worse than clickbait journalism, and I'm dumb for falling for it. :HideThePain:

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Man, you're either trolling, paranoid, or off your meds. :KEK:
It's ok to be wrong about things. As long as you recognise it, then smarten the fuck up when rather larger Orcas come along to save your ass. Quite why saving the denizens of a Pirate Pr0n forum from persecution is something somewoman would waste as much TIME as that sockpuppet on... is a bit above your pay-grade.

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If you want a partial answer: of the 15,000 or so VNs, Games etc played, a vanishingly small percentage (7%) were actually "damaging" or met the criteria these Muppets are implying as standard, and at least 53% of those came with Guidance Warnings outlining the content. Want to know a shocking fact? Deferment of Male Sexual Pleasure, Concern / Attitude to Female Orgasm, [Insert a long, LONG list] and your score is: 59% higher than all comparable Sexual Media available on the Web. Sex positivity across the board was 41% higher than even "vanilla" media.


You are the fucking WOKE ones, you muppets, that's why I (we) am (are) here.
 
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If you want a partial answer: of the 15,000 or so VNs, Games etc played, a vanishingly small percentage (7%) were actually "damaging" or met the criteria these Muppets are implying as standard, and at least 53% of those came with Guidance Warnings outlining the content. Want to know a shocking fact? Deferment of Male Sexual Pleasure, Concern / Attitude to Female Orgasm, [Insert a long, LONG list] and your score is: 59% higher than all comparable Sexual Media available on the Web. Sex positivity across the board was 41% higher than even "vanilla" media.
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Remember kids:BANKERS AND PAYMENT PROCESSORS ARE ALL PRO CENSORSHIP AND HAVE NO POLITICAL AFFILIATION. It does not matter if group claims(or tries to look like) what they are right,left, conservative or liberal. If they are pro censorship, they are assholes, and on a paid leash.

I will never believe that 100 angry karens can FORCE multibillion organisation that spawns control and influence across whole globe to bend the knee, just excuse to stomp last semi-free buisnesess in control, today porn games, tomorrow violent shooters, next week they just send a list of games you allowed to publish or buy.
 
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Sigh... I gotta step away from this censorship mess for some time. Getting an extreme case of deja vu that causing me issues so I might put this thread on mute for a bit.
 

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I tried to download game Directoriate in Game Maker. It isnt even game with more than one scene with prostitute (mostly text) but it also disappeared. Because it descipted EU distopian regime and MC was worker of Directoriate of Public Cleanliness responsible for executions of disssidents and removal of corpses. More Directoriate od Human Relationship baned MC from official relationship for low political score. I didnt see any banned content there but game and whole account dissapeared around 40 min from update 02. Damn. I forgot to save screen with adress. So whole case for me is political purge in good old nazi style or commie regime.
 

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BTW with all of this "think of the kids"/age stuff, whatever happened to parental controls? Why is the onus suddenly on the server side, when people used parental controls for years. It's like everyone who is advocating for this government control is pretending that was never really a thing... when everyone used to use the client side method. It was ubiquitous in schools and libraries in the 2000's. Clearly shows this is about control, not kids.
 
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I'm late to the party, but might as well throw my hat into the ring.

The gaming community literally helped Paypal hunt and shut down furry content creators over a decade ago. You're welcome to all my thoughts and prayers, but I'm not breaking out the wallet for this. Because already Paypal closed my account and seized the funds.

And with that, I'll take my hat back and bow out.
 

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They have now banned Mouthwashing a save for work game(by our standards at least). We are now in full blown 'first they cam for the...' mode
 
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They have now banned Mouthwashing a save for work game. We are now in full blown 'first they cam for the...' mode
You're way late and way wrong. We've already covered this on this page that you posted on and the previous page. Always search a thread to see if your "new information" has already been covered/debunked.
I predicted that the banning wouldn't stop at just incest or rape themed games. What do you have to say now, censorship-defending idiots?

Edit: It is a picture from a Reddit post, so just disregard the political rant.

Edit 2: It got deindexed back in October 2024, so yeah, don’t believe everything you see on Reddit :HideThePain:

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Yup, it isn't indexed. But wait... there's more...

Mouthwashing has not been indexed since well before the recent sweep of NSFW games. "This game hasn't been indexed since October 2024 since it doesn't meet our indexing criteria," the company wrote. "The developers are using a 'Download' button as a link to Steam. The developer took down any playable files form this page in 2024."


And even though it was deindexed --- it's still on itch today:
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Just like it was back in October 2024:
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Yeah, I saw it. Reddit's worse than clickbait journalism, and I'm dumb for falling for it. :HideThePain:

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I'm not paranoid - I was just showing that the reports of its "death" was exaggerated and for others not to seep into confirmation bias.
 
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Again, NSFW games are still hosted on Itch, Steam, Patreon, etc ... They just don't allow CERTAIN NSFW content like rape/non-con sex, incest, bestiliality, minors in adult content.... Let's keep this in mind with the correct context instead of knee-jerking.

Also, that ain't gonna happen... see the thread someone made with that exact same idea last week:
https://f95zone.to/threads/idea-for-an-adult-game-site.262785/
yeah, but 95% of them are shadowbanned and missing right now. So try and keep on topic
 
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yeah, but 95% of them are shadowbanned and missing right now. So try and keep on topic
No, 95% are not shadowbanned. If they were shadowbanned, you wouldn't be able to see them. You can see the thousands of games on those sites that have either passed review or are awaiting review. The game pages are still there - and you can find them using Google search.

Are they deindexed? Yup. But they are not shadowbanned. And if there are games that are "shadowbanned" - it's definitely not 95%, but likely fewer than 5%.

So, yes, keep on topic and keep your knees from hitting yourself in the nose.
 

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I got the Mouthwashing news from Sumito, Love the guy but apparently he is not 100% in the know.
Also, i still get a view views a day and even some downlouds on Itch (not shure if you can still donate tough)
 

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Nothingburger or?..
Are they deindexed? Yup. But they are not shadowbanned. And if there are games that are "shadowbanned" - it's definitely not 95%, but likely fewer than 5%.
Its like saying that putting political opponent in jail instead of prison does not count as dictatorship, because he is in jail, thus he is not political prisoner.
 
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Nothingburger or?..

Its like saying that putting political opponent in jail instead of prison does not count as dictatorship, because he is in jail, thus he is not political prisoner.
If you're getting your news from youtubers with clickbait to up their income --- yeah, it's a nothingburger.

Comparing what is going on with Visa/MC and the 10+ years long rules of a site that should have been enforced for the past 10+ years but weren't while many developers knew they were sneaking under the radar to that of political prisoners in a dictatorship is hyperbolic rhetoric.

Back to your initial argument about "shadowbanning" ---
Again, deindexed =/= shadowban.
For the THOUSANDS of NSFW games on itch and steam that either have not been reviewed or have passed review:
  • You can see the game pages
  • You can use a search engine the game pages
  • You can download the games from their game pages
That is completely contrary to the definition of "shadowban."

Is it an inconvenience? Yup.
But if itch had been following their own stated rules for the last 10+ years and if developers who knew the rules but also knew that itch wasn't enforcing them so they posted content they knew violated the rules to take advantage of the system as long as they could (or developers didn't read the rules they were expected to follow) --- then we wouldn't be here today, would we? No.

And if Valve had been following the rules they knew they had to follow (and the games they accepted on Steam) and enforced those rules for the years they've had NSFW games on their site --- then we wouldn't be here today, would we? No.
 
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And if Valve had been following the rules they knew they had to follow (and the games they accepted on Steam) and enforced those rules for the years they've had NSFW games on their site --- then we wouldn't be here today, would we? No.
Translation: if everyone would bend instantly to all demands of random political groups and corporate entities world would be a better place. Like are you trolling or you just stand that authority automaticaly equals righteous? Or your fetish in sex games is medival level of censorship?
 

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Translation: if everyone would bend instantly to all demands of random political groups and corporate entities world would be a better place. Like are you trolling or you just stand that authority automaticaly equals righteous? Or your fetish in sex games is medival level of censorship?
Dude. Do you not know how to read? That was not implied nor explicated. Holy fucking shit.

  • Itch had rules for 10+ years.
  • During those 10+ years they did not enforce them, for whatever reason.
  • When Patreon decided to enforce their rules 8 years ago, adult game developers who wanted to use content Patreon didn't allow found that while Itch had similar rules, it wasn't enforcing them.
  • They went to places including Itch, Subscribestar, and Steam.
  • All three of which have similar rules or use similar/same payment processors who have those rules. Rules for how and who they want to do business with. Rules, whether you agree with what they choose or not, that are legal and they have the right to be able to use. Just like developers have the right to put whatever they want into their games.
  • Again, the developers knew that Itch, Subscribestar, and Steam had similar rules and/or similar/same processors - but went there anyway, agreeing with the creator terms of those sites that their content would not violate the rules.
  • And they posted content that broke the rules anyway.
  • And they got away with it for years.
  • Then, yes, someone (or several someones) reminded Itch and Steam of their rules and that they should enforce their rules. Payment Processors agreed - especially when Itch and Steam agreed to follow the rules of their contract with the payment processors and so the processors were enforcing their own rules, as well.
  • Now, everything is coming to a head because:
    • companies didn't enforce their own rules, for whatever reason
    • developers knowingly posted content against the rules, because they knew they weren't being enforced
And now everyone is bitching about it because they got caught. It was going to come crashing down sooner or later. We've been talking about this day for YEARS on this site between developers, fans, and randos. We all knew it would come. But at the same time, developers mostly kept pushing their worry about it down the line.

Look - again, I am not saying I agree or disagree with what payment processors choose to accept or not for business transactions. But they do have the right to do so as long as what they choose to accept or not is a legal decision. And it is - it's within the law. It's legal.

Now, People can whine, cry, complain, bitch all they want on this site --- but that ain't going to do shit to change what people may consider is legal, but at the same time the same people thinking it is wrong to do.

And in this political climate where heads of state are getting shows cancelled and removing funding for public broadcasting and advocating on social media to pull licenses of commercial broadcasting corporations simply because they don't like what they say about their administrations and their dealings --- it's going to be awfully tough to get anything changed regarding porn and adult games with payment processors. Porn and sex are political third-rails.

You want to fight it? Good. Do it. But know it's not going to change overnight. It's going to take many years....

And worse than someone being an opponent of this kind of movement (which, I am NOT an opponent) - is someone who is completely misinformed, misguided, mistaken (or all three) intentionally or innocently who puts forth bullshit. Because the opponent will eat that shit for breakfast and use it against the entire movement, undermining any shred of credibility it may have.

It will go from a free speech/privacy/anti-trust movement to one presented to the public as a bunch of pedophiles and perverts trying to make porn more available for kids (they're putting PORN IN VIDEO GAMES! OH NOES!) in order to groom them for their own purposes. Payment processors have lobbyists. They have MILLIONS to spend on ads for people to watch pre-roll on YouTube and other sites - they will control the messaging against you. So yes --- know your shit, make sure you cover your ass, and make sure you are on message. Make sure you are honest about the history, where it stands, why it is important (for more than just being able to goon/coom to your favorite content) ... and most of all, make sure you have all the facts and your ducks in a row before you go off half-cocked and blow any chance of advancement for progress because you couldn't keep the blood rushing from your brain to your penis.

A misstep today could delay any advancement for longer than it will take summertime saga to be completed.
 
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Dude. Do you not know how to read? That was not implied nor explicated. Holy fucking shit.

  • Itch had rules for 10+ years.
  • During those 10+ years they did not enforce them, for whatever reason.
  • When Patreon decided to enforce their rules 8 years ago, adult game developers who wanted to use content Patreon didn't allow found that while Itch had similar rules, it wasn't enforcing them.
  • They went to places including Itch, Subscribestar, and Steam.
  • All three of which have similar rules or use similar/same payment processors who have those rules. Rules for how and who they want to do business with. Rules, whether you agree with what they choose or not, that are legal and they have the right to be able to use. Just like developers have the right to put whatever they want into their games.
  • Again, the developers knew that Itch, Subscribestar, and Steam had similar rules and/or similar/same processors - but went there anyway, agreeing with the creator terms of those sites that their content would not violate the rules.
  • And they posted content that broke the rules anyway.
  • And they got away with it for years.
  • Then, yes, someone (or several someones) reminded Itch and Steam of their rules and that they should enforce their rules. Payment Processors agreed - especially when Itch and Steam agreed to follow the rules of their contract with the payment processors and so the processors were enforcing their own rules, as well.
  • Now, everything is coming to a head because:
    • companies didn't enforce their own rules, for whatever reason
    • developers knowingly posted content against the rules, because they knew they weren't being enforced
And now everyone is bitching about it because they got caught. It was going to come crashing down sooner or later. We've been talking about this day for YEARS on this site between developers, fans, and randos. We all knew it would come. But at the same time, developers mostly kept pushing their worry about it down the line.

Look - again, I am not saying I agree or disagree with what payment processors choose to accept or not for business transactions. But they do have the right to do so as long as what they choose to accept or not is a legal decision. And it is - it's within the law. It's legal.

Now, People can whine, cry, complain, bitch all they want on this site --- but that ain't going to do shit to change what people may consider is legal, but at the same time the same people thinking it is wrong to do.

And in this political climate where heads of state are getting shows cancelled and removing funding for public broadcasting and advocating on social media to pull licenses of commercial broadcasting corporations simply because they don't like what they say about their administrations and their dealings --- it's going to be awfully tough to get anything changed regarding porn and adult games with payment processors. Porn and sex are political third-rails.

You want to fight it? Good. Do it. But know it's not going to change overnight. It's going to take many years....

And worse than someone being an opponent of this kind of movement (which, I am NOT an opponent) - is someone who is completely misinformed, misguided, mistaken (or all three) intentionally or innocently who puts forth bullshit. Because the opponent will eat that shit for breakfast and use it against the entire movement, undermining any shred of credibility it may have.

It will go from a free speech/privacy/anti-trust movement to one presented to the public as a bunch of pedophiles and perverts trying to make porn more available for kids (they're putting PORN IN VIDEO GAMES! OH NOES!) in order to groom them for their own purposes. Payment processors have lobbyists. They have MILLIONS to spend on ads for people to watch pre-roll on YouTube and other sites - they will control the messaging against you. So yes --- know your shit, make sure you cover your ass, and make sure you are on message. Make sure you are honest about the history, where it stands, why it is important (for more than just being able to goon/coom to your favorite content) ... and most of all, make sure you have all the facts and your ducks in a row before you go off half-cocked and blow any chance of advancement for progress because you couldn't keep the blood rushing from your brain to your penis.

A misstep today could delay any advancement for longer than it will take summertime saga to be completed.
I have a sneaking suspition that im arguing with troll using gpt. Lots of talking, seems logical, and even supportive of players, but end result of talk always the same: they are in their right, they just never excersied it, bend over or hide like cockroach.
Also i like words like "they had rules" , "we got caught", "the best tactis is not to fight" , very subtle way to make EVERYONE in this weebsite think that they DOING SOMETHING WRONG and what they are some sort of CRIMINALS. WE OR THOSE DEVS DID NOTHING WRONG, WE ARE NOT HARMING ANYONE, OR TRYING TO HARM ANYONE, AND IF I LIKE GAME WITH BDSM IT DOES NOT MEAN IM GONA DO IT TO SOME RANDOM FEMALE ON THE STREET, and we did not broke any rules, both of commerce or morale, stop guilt triping people.

Those "rules" did not exist, until last few years, agreements are changing monthly, they changed everything once again like they do this every few months. They HAD POWER FOR YEARS AND THEY JUST STARTED EXCERCISE IT, NOT THE HAD LAWS AND RULES FOR YEARS AND THEY NEVER FOLLOWED IT. Stop missinforming people. If anyone dont agree, just think how many times a year your bank(or any other service) sends you "updates" to your agreement.

There is no different issues, either we allow corporations to excercise rules of censorship or we dont, there is already movements against that, you just propose some retarded partisan war against global entities, do nothing and hoping that someday something change, while compleltely surrendering any form of dirrect or inderect conflict RIGHT NOW.


Its not about argument, they did this without any argument or anything, its classical scheme since dry laws in US- couple of insane morons backed up by lobby, being silent is a mistake, dont go memes about cunies and such dumb 4chan shit, but you should call VISA or Mastercard, and tell them that you switching to another card producer because of these specific practicies. Double points if you actualy call your bank and do so.

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and about twisting message, they will always do that, no matter what, there is no way to avoid it.