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NanasBananas

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The role you play at the beginning of the game is quite passive, but this is not always going to be the case, you are supposed to "seduce" the girls to get paid. BUT DON'T FEAR, there's always going to be a femdom tint throughout the game, it's just the way it is in that future as the girls need to be more vocal about what they want. Also, I really like writing scenes where thirsty girls try to take advantage of the MC, that's not going to go away. You can probably get your fix on every update, don't worry.

In the case of rea, she is pimping you out and treating you like property, but it is not out of a desire to dominate, she is so self-centered that she doesn't think bossing you around is a bad thing, in her mind she is doing you a favor and her actions are totally justified, after all... "Why wouldn't you like to be forced to do lewd things with a beauty like me?" is what she would think.
Thirsty girls trying to take advantage of the MC is something I can get by on... I'm looking forward to more of that... ;)

What you say about Rea makes a lot of sense. Her cunnilingus scene was very enjoyably femdom-esque, but in general I wasn't really convinced about whether she gets off on dominating others in and of itself. I guess my initial comment on her still stands, then; I'm somewhat fond of her so far, but I can see her content going in more than one direction, so for now I'm just curious to see where things will end up.

Sorry to confirm your fears, she sorta falls in that territory, but her story is the one that contains the most standard femdom content by the hand of her bodyguard and mother.
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Aha, I knew it! After being burned enough times I've learned not to be blinded by the attractive rough exterior and spot the signs of tsundere-ism!

Well, if her content has any cathartic or heartwarming elements in it I might still enjoy it.

...And I wouldn't wanna miss out on the femdom with her mom and bodyguard...

...I guess I'll still check it out...
 

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I think the game is good, in the early builds focusing on story can make a lot of people dropping the game, but just do things in your own time, dont rush the H-scenes just to appeal some of these players, it can ruin your game in a possible future. I'll be looking to see more of your work, good job.
(Sorry if any word sounds out of place, english is not my mother tongue)
 

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MateDolce, here are a few comments, observations, and rants while I play the game (summary: it's a wonderful, delightful game!).

1. I have to love the comedy. The topic would also easily lend itself to a tragic interpretation, but you make it so easily into a comedy that I can't stop laughing. At the very beginning already the newspaper says "Orphan dies in terrible crash", and then "Rivers of blood!" -- as if that were possible for one person dying. And often you have them say such uproariously funny things ("her smug aura mocks me", "it's a common practice during kidnappings"... when I got to "I don't want to kill Jews" I just couldn't stop laughing... When Laura talks about "the corporations having them by the pussy," was that a Trump reference?

2. The attitude towards androids seems a little inconsistent in this world. On the one hand, they are handled like objects (see Ruri, Emily, Ms. Luna, Laura, even Lena...). On the other hand, the girls seem to want "real boyfriends" (Laura claims they all want to have androids as "partners"); but how can you have "bittersweet first love" with an object? Wouldn't the androids just being objects make it pathetic? On the other hand, if they do think that androids can be acceptable partners for "bittersweet first love", then how can they consider them mere objects? They'd need to see some humanity in them for this to be possible... In fact, if androids are just objects, why are they supposed, or even allowed, to attend classes? Shouldn't they just wait outside so as not to distract the girls while they study? Wouldn't it make more sense for the androids to wait for the girls to come out and pay for their services? Having them behave like students makes them look more like humans than like objects.

3. I simply LOVED the way Ms. Luna just sniffed the MC -- it's not the traditional outcome of this kind of scenes, and it was both hilarious and erotic. Well done! I hope you'll let Ms. Luna have her way with the MC in the future -- and that, being a grown woman, she'll have more clearly carnal desires to satisfy?

4. A little detail: is Laura claiming that if the girls don't buy/rent androids, then the corporations won't have an incentive to keep them as they are and will develop their AIs into something more fully human? But... this doesn't sound like the way a capitalist market works, even one under a monopoly. I'd imagine they would have models with near-human AIs already and simply sell/rent them for exorbitant prices, as luxury items ("for the discerning lady").

5. Laura is hilarious too, by the way. When she says "let's gang-rape him... to show the corporations!" I just couldn't stop laughing. Man, how do you come up with these lines? You basically created a tragic, dystopian situation (all men die, women fight wars over the last few men, there's chaos and confusion everywhere for a while, knowledge of the existence of men is purged but conserved by women who memorized it à la Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451)... and instead of writing a tragic tale of suffering and pain (which is what Fahrenheit 451 is, by the way), you manage to make it into a lighthearted comedy where all characters are basically adorable, even when they talk about raping the MC (or even actually rape him, as I'd claim Ruri did). Fascinating!

6. Another detail: Rea says the MC's boxers are basically "screwed to his skin," which is why Ruri can't pull them down when she's raping him. If this is true, how come he was able to take off his boxers and wash them when he came back to Rea's apartment?

7. It's curious that Lena seemed so surprised to see that the MC remembered her (and that she had played girlfriend and boyfriend with him). Is it the case that androids always forget what happened once they finish a job? I don't remember this being said explicitly anywhere, but that's what her behavior seems to imply.

While playing the game, I also made a list of typos and/or possible grammar mistakes in the text. Would you like me to publish it here, or DM it to you?
 
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MateDolce, here are a few comments, observations, and rants while I play the game (summary: it's a wonderful, delightful game!).
1. Yeah haha, that wasn't planned, it just made sense while I was at it.

2. They are well aware that they are objects, but that doesn't mean that they don't enjoy the delusion and end up becoming emotionally involved. Androids are not only made to perform carnal acts, but to sell the illusion of a romance that is strongly romanticized in that future. The way I see it is that men are something like a mythical creature, many women fought to keep their legacy alive, all those books, movies and songs that talk about the beauty of the relationship between a man and a woman are romanticized to the extreme, and in the future, the only way to experience that is through the act that androids sell.

The fact that they are more or less integrated into society, even if they only pretend to participate in it, is to sell this illusion of meeting a partner as they would in the old world.

3. You'll see in chapter 3... =)

4. Laura is a conspiracy nut, so don't take everything she says as true (or do it... who knows =P). The truth is I decided to set the story when they weren't that advanced yet to make the Mc feel more special.

5. The limited writing experience I told you about was making bleak dystopian futures, the novel's format doesn't lend itself very well to jokes... I could never make them work. It's good to know that they land in this medium =)

6. He can take them off inside the apartment to go to the bathroom, they are magnetically locked, so neither he nor the girls can take them off (for now).

7. Yes, usually the girls pay to enjoy a little romantic moment, and then the androids forget about them until the next paid session. If they don't pay, the androids treat them like strangers most of the time, and they would never indulge in something like what the MC did for free. That's why Lena acted that way and even said goodbye at the end, because that little moment they had would only live on in their memories. Nobody told the MC that he shouldn't do that.

You can send them to me, but I have no problem with you putting them here, it's not like the others haven't seen the typos haha. Whatever's most comfortable for you. Thank you!
 

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1. Yeah haha, that wasn't planned, it just made sense while I was at it.
Serendipity. :)

2. They are well aware that they are objects, but that doesn't mean that they don't enjoy the delusion and end up becoming emotionally involved. Androids are not only made to perform carnal acts, but to sell the illusion of a romance that is strongly romanticized in that future. The way I see it is that men are something like a mythical creature, many women fought to keep their legacy alive, all those books, movies and songs that talk about the beauty of the relationship between a man and a woman are romanticized to the extreme, and in the future, the only way to experience that is through the act that androids sell.

The fact that they are more or less integrated into society, even if they only pretend to participate in it, is to sell this illusion of meeting a partner as they would in the old world.
Oh, OK, I see it now. But then I must say: few if any of the girls ever behave as if they romanticized men or their android replacements. Ruri talks about her grandma having fucked the last one, and says she'd totally go on hunting expeditions to get cute boys... Emily looks disgusted with the whole "androids do it for money" thing... Laura with her "Marxism light" approach hates the exploitation (she wants "free BFs for all") ... Mia seems to be into high-quality androids... Rea is selfish and uses the MC as she sees fit... Even Emily's mom apparently wants to have a whole harem of boys rather than one meaningful relationship. And all of this is fine by me, even great actually, but to create the impression that the girls romanticize the androids (which I think was also the point in a couple of the porn stories the MC read in Rea's computer, right?) it would be necessary to show a few of them doing that, i.e., falling in love with their androids and going around sighing and telling others how great it is. (One of the concerns of modern technology -- already kinda visible in Japan -- is that humans might fall in love with robots; there's even a Black Mirror episode about that. In a future in which falling in love is part of the reason for having androids, you'd expect to see it happen relatively often, right?)

3. You'll see in chapter 3... =)
You're bringing pure joy to my heart. Take all the time you need, just make sure Ms. Luna has a lot of fun with the MC. Such a classy lady clearly deserves it!

4. Laura is a conspiracy nut, so don't take everything she says as true (or do it... who knows =P). The truth is I decided to set the story when they weren't that advanced yet to make the Mc feel more special.
I see. So that's why she says the government is putting drugs in the water to turn everybody gay? :cool:

5. The limited writing experience I told you about was making bleak dystopian futures, the novel's format doesn't lend itself very well to jokes... I could never make them work. It's good to know that they land in this medium =)
I think it's the style. Maybe having a character just yell "YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE NEXT HITLER!" while talking to someone kidnapped from the past is difficult to pull off as comedy if you don't have a pretty Koikatu illustration to show us how geeky-adorable they are; maybe it would sound creepy without it. And also, there's the music: it sets a lighter tone to the scenes and prompts comedic interpretations. Also, the places and buildings: they don't go for the "degrading urban wasteland" of a movie like Blade Runner, but give a sense of normalcy, it's-just-like-your-neighborhood familiarity that would be harder to create in a purely written medium. Still, the medium of games can be used for all kinds of effects, including dramatic-dystopian ones (consider games like 9-9-9 or Fallout or VNs like Higurashi, or, from f95, Seeds of Chaos). It's how you use the resources.

But I hasten to add that this is just my opinion; I don't know how many others here agree with me.

6. He can take them off inside the apartment to go to the bathroom, they are magnetically locked, so neither he nor the girls can take them off (for now).
Only in the apartment? And does Rea have to unlock them? Wouldn't it be better if she just let him dress as he pleases? (Also, why did Rea say in Ch. 1 that he couldn't go to the bathroom and would just have to hold it? And what happened to her claim that the collar would "just EXPLODE!" if he came back home too late? Is that true?)

7. Yes, usually the girls pay to enjoy a little romantic moment, and then the androids forget about them until the next paid session. If they don't pay, the androids treat them like strangers most of the time, and they would never indulge in something like what the MC did for free. That's why Lena acted that way and even said goodbye at the end, because that little moment they had would only live on in their memories. Nobody told the MC that he shouldn't do that.
Interesting! That would explain why they seem so cold to the androids after they're done. (Not that I'm complaining, but it's nice to know where something comes from.) It's funny the corporations would do that, though -- it seems like it should be simple to not erase an android's memories of what he's done with every girl who paid for his services, and it would add a little more realism to the girls' fantasies. (Maybe Laura would say erasing their memories shows how evil the big corporations are?). But it does explain, say, Emily's apparent contempt for the MC when he shows any positive feelings towards her (it's not just programmed, it's also going to be forgotten soon...). I like Emily, by the way; I hope she'll get a happy ending regardless of whether or not the MC ends up with her. But ultimately, it's your call! I'm OK with whatever you decide to do, the game thus far is already so great.

You can send them to me, but I have no problem with you putting them here, it's not like the others haven't seen the typos haha. Whatever's most comfortable for you. Thank you!
Since my posts end up being long and meandering, I think I'll DM them to you just to avoid cluttering the forum. And it's not like they're big important things (half of them are just about capitalization...).
 
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Only in the apartment? And does Rea have to unlock them? Wouldn't it be better if she just let him dress as he pleases? (Also, why did Rea say in Ch. 1 that he couldn't go to the bathroom and would just have to hold it? And what happened to her claim that the collar would "just EXPLODE!" if he came back home too late? Is that true?)
If you've ever read the song of ice and fire, you'll know that the characters can't always be trusted, maybe they're lying, misremembering, or just don't know what they're talking about. Take everything with a grain of salt =)

Started recently...there will be harem or multiple endings?
Both! and also something in the middle with some of the girls agreeing to share you.
 

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If you've ever read the song of ice and fire, you'll know that the characters can't always be trusted, maybe they're lying, misremembering, or just don't know what they're talking about. Take everything with a grain of salt =)


Both! and also something in the middle with some of the girls agreeing to share you.
Perfect, perfect... Looking forward to play then... Thanks for the game :)
 

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If you've ever read the song of ice and fire, you'll know that the characters can't always be trusted, maybe they're lying, misremembering, or just don't know what they're talking about. Take everything with a grain of salt =)
You sound like Tyrion speaking. Or maybe lord Varys?...

Both! and also something in the middle with some of the girls agreeing to share you.
Oh how NIIICE! I hope you'll make the MC appreciate just how heavenly it is to be the plaything of a bunch of thirsty aggressive girls. :love: :love:
 
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Egemenusta1

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I really like the story and animations in game. This game has a lot of potential so keep up the good work. If you haven't played this game (although it is not that long) you should try it.
 

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I had high hopes for this game on a conceptual level, as player mind control is definitely a fetish of mine. Most of the character designs are great even if some of the Riru shots during her first scene look sorta off. The dialogue is good and believable in most cases(though as you may later learn if you continue reading this text wall, that's not always a good thing.) But the treatment of the player character, the lack of stuff like food(severe hunger pangs from lack of food are no joke and a severe trigger/turn off for those who've ever gone hungry), proper bedding, or actual push-back and/or snark from the MC seriously pushes all my "DEFY, RAGE AGAINST THE COSMOS, BE A FONT OF CAUSTIC HATE" buttons. And lets not forget the the fucking Bomb Collar. Though that might have been a lie iunno, the blood splatter & various organs would make it obvious as to his biological nature & the fact that she had a bomb in a school & killed a functional human male would end her in some deep shit. The glued on boxers are sorta of a nonsensical addition which could be circumvented by anyone with a brain or sufficient pain tolerance(Sure as hell wouldn't stop me, when you've gotta go you've gotta go. And as shown soon after, the magic boxers don't hold in liquids)

Which is weird, as I usually enjoy femdom content. Maybe its that the objectification isn't of a sexual nature, and instead being a denial of humanity & sentient rights(This is less of an issue with most of the characters as it isn't knowing or intentional on their part, but even most subs won't go along with that sort of thing unless they actually feel appreciated.) In most Femdom games stuff like abuse and mistreatment as mentioned above are usually either handwaved or used as a plot point rather than being played straight and having the MC actively resentful. The only games that include it actively include physical abuse or BDSM as core fetishes, again, main plot point. It causes me to constantly think what I would be doing in that situation, like hashing out an actual employment contract with Rea if I decide to still hold up her charade(accompanied by threats on both circumstances that I would have pre-prepared for... Obvious reasons.)

Overall, the MC feels like an abused Harem anime protagonist, silently accepting situations actual humans would never put up with. And hey, this might just be a me thing. I have Invictus in my sig for a reason. But it's something to watch out for.
 

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I had high hopes for this game on a conceptual level, as player mind control is definitely a fetish of mine. Most of the character designs are great even if some of the Riru shots during her first scene look sorta off. The dialogue is good and believable in most cases(though as you may later learn if you continue reading this text wall, that's not always a good thing.) But the treatment of the player character, the lack of stuff like food(severe hunger pangs from lack of food are no joke and a severe trigger/turn off for those who've ever gone hungry), proper bedding, or actual push-back and/or snark from the MC seriously pushes all my "DEFY, RAGE AGAINST THE COSMOS, BE A FONT OF CAUSTIC HATE" buttons. And lets not forget the the fucking Bomb Collar. Though that might have been a lie iunno, the blood splatter & various organs would make it obvious as to his biological nature & the fact that she had a bomb in a school & killed a functional human male would end her in some deep shit. The glued on boxers are sorta of a nonsensical addition which could be circumvented by anyone with a brain or sufficient pain tolerance(Sure as hell wouldn't stop me, when you've gotta go you've gotta go. And as shown soon after, the magic boxers don't hold in liquids)

Which is weird, as I usually enjoy femdom content. Maybe its that the objectification isn't of a sexual nature, and instead being a denial of humanity & sentient rights(This is less of an issue with most of the characters as it isn't knowing or intentional on their part, but even most subs won't go along with that sort of thing unless they actually feel appreciated.) In most Femdom games stuff like abuse and mistreatment as mentioned above are usually either handwaved or used as a plot point rather than being played straight and having the MC actively resentful. The only games that include it actively include physical abuse or BDSM as core fetishes, again, main plot point. It causes me to constantly think what I would be doing in that situation, like hashing out an actual employment contract with Rea if I decide to still hold up her charade(accompanied by threats on both circumstances that I would have pre-prepared for... Obvious reasons.)

Overall, the MC feels like an abused Harem anime protagonist, silently accepting situations actual humans would never put up with. And hey, this might just be a me thing. I have Invictus in my sig for a reason. But it's something to watch out for.
I get where you're coming from. This stuff is not for you, because at an important level it pushes buttons in you that you don't want to have pushed. I see. I understand. I also have my own pet peeves and if stories have them then I stop enjoying them. You don't like him being really treated as an object, especially non-sexually, especially by Rea, who knows he is a human being, but even also by other other girls, who don't know; it PISSES YOU OFF!!!
Well, surprise: it does NOT piss ME off. It quite pleases me, actually. That's the kind of story I enjoy. When you say that "most Femdom games stuff like abuse and mistreatment as mentioned above are usually either handwaved or used as a plot point rather than being played straight" then I have to laugh and say, no sir, not in the femdom games I play. And they're now few!

I get it! You don't like that the MC's human dignity is being trampled upon, to the point that he gets resentful. It triggers your buttons: hunger pains, fucking Bomb Collars, etc. But do YOU get that, to some other people, these very things are GOOD, that they are part of the reason why the game is ENJOYABLE? I actually like these features. To me they are not a source of RAGE AGAINST THE COSMOS and A FONT OF CAUSTIC HATE, but actually ENJOYABLE FEATURES THAT I WANT TO SEE AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!! Do you understand?

You don't have to like these features; nobody wants you to be triggered, or displeased, or so angry that you keep thinking about how you'd change the situation to suit your tastes. But do you understand how your forcefulness here sounds offensive to those people who, like me, derive delight and pleasure exactly from the features that you hate?

Your taste is your taste, bro. More power to you! But please... don't go around implicitly offending others for THEIR taste! If this game triggers you too much, I'm sure there are others you'd like better. Find them, and have fun!
 

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That's fair honestly. More than fair. And it ‘is’ objectively a good game, and there aren’t many games that cater to this specific fetish. I just wanted to get all my gripes out of my system. Sorry for being a bit aggressive but I try my best to be honest, and its beneficial for him to remember that his game won’t be to everyone's tastes. So he’ll have to deal with people who dislike his game and are far less polite about it. Enjoy the game all, good luck. (y)
 
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Thats fairs honestly. More than fair. And it ‘is’ objectively a good game, and there aren’t many games that cater to this specific fetish. I just wanted to get all my gripes out of my system. Sorry for being a bit agressive but I try my best to be honest, and its benificial for him to remember that his game won’t be to everyones tastes. So he’ll have to deal with people who dislike his game and are far less polite about it. Enjoy the game all, good luck. (y)
Fair point. I guess I was also a little triggered, because it's so frequent to get people here saying "oh no femdom unfair bad for MC eewww I'm outta here" in threads specifically about games that include femdom elements... (and note the developer didn't initially even think his game qualified as femdom). So: I didn't mean it personally. I honestly think it's OK to dislike something, and it's OK to be honest about it. Just keep in mind that tastes are tastes, and surprisingly, some people like what we don't. (I hate shrimp, for instance, but my wife loves it, so I often have to put up with it. Such is life...) Take care! :) (y)
 
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