VN - Ren'Py - Angel & Demon [v0.2] [Saint]

Racist in a way that left me feeling really gross. Also has one of those weird feminist stereotype characters- I thought we left those behind in like 2012. However, the writing wasn't bad (especially for a non-native speaker) and the 3d imagery was well done, so I've given it 2 stars and not 1. I just can't give it any more than 2 stars after all that racism. I'd appreciate a warning beforehand, at the beginning of the game. Then, I wouldn't have spent my time on it since it's not for me.

More specific stuff:
- Black character is a misogynistic drug-dealing bbc alpha dude.
- Main character is uncomfortable speaking to Black people and has only spoken to a "few" in her life. In the USA. No mention of any excuses like living in a rural mostly white town. In fact, it seems like she lives in an urban/suburban area. There's no way she wouldn't have had some black classmates, neighbors, teachers, or at least like, a local librarian or a postman or something.
- Main character says to another character who is dating a Black person "I didn't know you were attracted to them?" and this supposedly liberal girl says she "wasn't attracted to them at all" until recently, and she is only attracted to them because of the "injustice" they experience. (Um... what???) This might be a joke but it didn't make me laugh.

Maybe this is just a fetish I'm not into, but that is all the more reason to label this stuff. I'm assuming that's the case. But in the off chance that the author seriously thinks this kinda thing is normal, then I'd really urge them to sit down and talk to even just 1 black American person.

I was pleased with the first update of the game. It seemed rough around the edges but had lots of potential. Fantastic realistic models and body shapes being a huge positive. Corruption of a cute, naive girl. Family members in place to play their part, in either helping Veronica's corruption or her helping them to be sexually corrupt. Dialogue was not great but not terrible. (Foreign Dev, so that was always going to be an issue for writing) The plot is fine, having her choose to follow either her angel or demon mentors for each decision. It is overall enjoyable but still has many issues. There's enough to keep you interested, even with the small amount of lewd scenes. Slow burn corruption is always fun.

Second update was a disappointment to me.
Too much inner thoughts. Even when people are actually in mid sentence talking, it still happens more than actual dialogue. The inner thoughts are also poorly written & go on forever saying the most obvious things. There's already the angel and demon conversing with Veronica in her head. We don't need even more of the characters talking to themselves for pointless dialogue. Most Devs treat players like simpletons, thinking that they need to explain every little thing (especially non english speaking Devs). It's the exact opposite - less is more. This is why it's called a Visual Novel. You're supposed to show, not tell. Inner thoughts are only meant to be used sparingly for a character's most important feelings or thoughts. Not every second line of writing.
Dialogue - Characters tend to say the same things in 5 different ways, most things are over explained and could be cut in half. Would be good to see more personality or make the conversations interesting when talking. Especially when it's mundane things, like making dinner, doing chores, etc. Show some of the characters likes or dislikes, while doing it. So we can know them better.

Looks like the scenes are too dark normally, so he has artificially raised the brightness. The Gamma is way too high, scenes need more independent lighting. Maybe he is still figuring that out?
The resolution of the images is quite poor half of the time. The clarity is bad and pixelation of models and objects can be seen clearly in about half of the renders. The other half look fantastic (other than the over brightening) This is such a shame as all the models with the details of their bodies are very nicely done, some of the most realistic and well made I've seen. The breasts sag, their pussies are hairy, there's stretch marks, flat asses. I love the more natural and true to life look the Dev has made. Veronica is up there with the top female characters for her body shape and look. Strange that the quality of half the images are so poor. Seems like a big waste. When it's clear that a lot of work has gone into creating these highly detailed models.

Veronica & her younger sister Maria act like kids.
Both have never masturbated or even watched porn before & have almost no sexual knowledge - Both calling a dick a Pee-Pee lol.
Maria not realising, having a relationship with her brother is frowned upon by society. Even arguing with her mother that she can't shower with him anymore. Yet they are adults, their older sister Sarah is a porn star, Veronica has sex daily with her BF, Maria has given a BJ. Even at Veronica's first viewing of porn, it's like she has no clue about sex. Nathan (her Boyfriend) even explains how you need to stroke the penis faster for it to orgasm. There's no 22 year old woman in her position who would not know these things. She's having regular sex with her boyfriend, lives in a city with a normal family, would have had sex-ed in school, along with her friends and pornstar sister telling her things. It's fine to make your female MC innocent but to go as far as that, is way over the top. She literally has the mindset of a 10 year old girl, which is impossible for the life she has around her. This is like some kind of Bizzaro land where young adults are completely uneducated, depending on the scene the Dev wants to tell.

Maria & Veronica work out together at home.
Gym session felt like 5 minutes on describing how to do a work out routine. Not exactly exciting or relevant, especially for how much time it takes up. Veronica is worried of her breasts falling out of her smaller sports bra & wears a long top to cover herself up but they are in their basement gym - So who cares? Then has no problem taking off her top after and posing with Maria for pics with her nipples on show? Finally showering with her sister naked, all this change within about a half hour. Maria purposely does provocative poses for social media with her gym workout. Saying how guys love it and make comments about her body. Then later when they are showering, she acts like she knows nothing about sexual behavior... Like I mentioned above. Logic is not strong with a few of these scenes! BTW Maria's head is way too big for her body lol. Looks like a Quagmire Funko Pop figure.

There's also the issue of following either the demon or angel. If Veronica follows the demon's orders, she will go to hell. If she follows the angel's orders, she goes to heaven. The problem being most players would choose the full corruption path and almost certainly end up in hell. As the demon's path is where the majority of lewd and sex scenes will be. I'm not sure the logic of that plot point is fully thought out? lol.

I'm nitpicking for quite a few of these things but some are fairly major problems. Even with the issues, it's definitely not a bad game. In fact this could turn out to be a surprise and get better and better (I hope). I guess the problem is for everything the Dev has done great in this game, there's a bad thing to even it out. Which is very ironic considering the angel & demon title! After a couple more updates I'll see if there is an improvement. Can hopefully give a higher score if it is better. Dev is constantly on the game thread here, willing to listen to criticism and seems genuine about making the best game he can. I wish him the best as he always treats people with respect no matter what they say.

Review of V.02

[Version 0.2 Review]
Angel & Demon is a fantastic AVN focused on methodical corruption of the female MC, and so far, it does so extremely well.

• Models: High-fidelity, but more importantly - realistic. Women in this game don't have bolted-on breasts, perfect skin and hourglass figures, but they are nonetheless gorgeous. The mother has wrinkles and looks age-appropriate, which is a rare find these days.
• Veronica (MC) is very much in love with her boyfriend, which presents a great foundation for either of the two planned paths: purity or corruption.
  • The purists will play a part in nurturing a supportive/loving relationship not only between our two soulmates, but also the other family members.
  • Those who prefer corruption will have a hand in helping Veronica explore her growing sexual desires, either with or without her boyfriend involved - as well as do the same for your mother and two sisters. It is pretty clear that the corruption path will offer more sex scenes, so do keep that in mind before eventually complaining.
• The game is planned to explore a lot of popular fetishes like incest, interracial, pregnancy and more.
  • For all of you incest fans: romantic incest is reserved only for MC's younger twins, the sister and brother. And there might be some non-romantic scenes between the sisters (including MC), but there won't be any feelings involved - just some innocent exploration.
  • For the interracial lovers: The scenes in the prologue intentionally take the fetish to an extreme, something the actual game will not do. Though there will still be some sweet interracial loving for the MC, as well as for other family members. To top it all off, this game introduces Sarah, the older sister, with a mixed baby - and the same will be possible with Veronica in one of the endings. Honestly didn't expect the dev to include these plots, as many interracial-focused games don't even bother involving interracial pregnancy as endings.
• Story is engaging, and rewards reading the dialogues. This is a corruption game with a focus on story & exploration of different fetishes, so bring your best reading glasses to fully immerse yourself!
• Choices matter, but you won't be locked into a route unless you truly dedicate your "choices" to some specific path. After a certain point, some paths will be unavailable, though it will be obvious with the ingame Karma system that you haven't done enough to stay/begin that route. This might be a warning to some: the game will heavily involve MC's boyfriend (who is not traditionally masculine in any way) in sexual activities at the start of the game, and depending on your Karma alignment, he gets more or less involved.

Overall, a must-play for fans of the slow-burn corruption, because the dev here is taking a more realistic and methodical approach. There will be no fetishes taken to the extreme: the dev promises a scalpel, not a hammer. I look forward to seeing this game through, and if anything at all strikes your fancy - give it a try!

Good pacing, good dialogue, and the character models dont look like inflated balloons. The biggest downside is that the developer leans waaay too heavily into race baiting bbc stuff. One of the first characters you meet is the sister of the MC who's a single mom with a black baby. The most important prologue character is a dyed hair, chubby, feminist who met a jamacian illegal immigrant in a black lives matter rally and fucked him out of white guilt. I like corruption themes and the whole angel/devil system is great for that, but if the entire visual novel is going to center around unemployed black dudes with white girls, then I'll have to drop it.

This game is a perfect example of why "racism" needs to be a fetish tag. It leans waaay too hard into the whole "BBC" thing in a way that makes it just a matter of course that obviously all black men are dead-beat dads, have huge dicks, are out to subjugate and breed white women, love fried chicken, don't have jobs, and are also exotic immigrants.

You know, if you are into that for a porn game or for sex fiction... alright, fine. It is fantasy, and as long as you can recognize fantasy from reality, I won't kink-shame it. However, when it is this extreme, it really needs to be labeled on the tin. It might shock some people here to learn that some people find racism to be just as un-sexy as others find it 'dangerously' erotic and exotic.

I'm not even going to touch on the sexism, which goes so far as to literally say that all feminists are self-loathing misandrists who are (again, literally) going to Hell.

Aside from that, the writing is serviceable (above average for VNs of this style) and the renders are just about what you can expect for any other VN here, especially if you like that 'everybody over 35 looks like a strung-out drug addict' look. The concept and potential choice variety appear promising, but are so minimally implemented at the point of this review that I can't comment on it.

After all that, you might be wondering why I gave this game even two stars, to which I reply: have you even seen the rest of the "games" on this site?

0.1 Release Review:
Excellent game so far with beautiful models. I love the concept of the good vs bad with the female protagonist. Hopefully it separates itself from Good Girl Gone Bad and doesn't force you down a specific path to enjoy the content from both sides (good and bad). What about someone who wants to appear socially good wheel doing bad things? Hoping to see an option to live almost a double life.

the game is generally not bad, there is a choice of action, the plot is normal, what I didn't like anymore is how a girl looks with breasts and a nice place, too, I don't really understand everyone has their own tastes for the game, but it's a playable game

This was a really promising opening chapter that shows a lot of originality and great renders.

The concept and plot are really intriguing. It's basically a female corruption game, but with much higher stakes - the MC has been given a second chance at life with an angel and demoness attempting to win her soul by influencing her life choices.

This gives the player an incentive to not just pick slutty choices every time. (I don't want to send her to hell and "lose" the game just to unlock sex scenes.)

The game includes other family members who can also be corrupted, like a Mom and sister. I'm not interested in this type of content but doubtlessly others will enjoy it.

It's definitely worth checking out and supporting, even at this early stage.

To be honest I don't usually review games in here, but well, this time I really think that I should.

The game is really good, even it's short and don't have much content yet. But the truth is that I really enjoyed playing it. Ofcourse it can be even better and it has things to improve, I guess that it started pretty well, nice artstyle, good renders, nice camera angles and things like that, I just think that it could improve, but I really think that it looks great for a first release. Thank you and keep the good work. I will be waiting for the next update.

Great start to a promising game.

You can tell the work that's been put in making the renders look great. Just the lighting and shading alone elevates the tone of every scene. For instance, the darker scenes in the Morge created an ominous feel which if intended perfectly encapsulated the reality the protagonist is facing.

I'm usually critical of the character models, which initially makes or breaks a game for me. In this case the characters look fantastic, the body and face are of realistic proportions. There are diverse sized individuals from fat to fit to slim, which in turn adds more desire to the protagonist beauty as the main attraction.

The introductory story is well paced, at first it lets you in on the daily life of the protagonist, and her interactions with family and friends. You get the picture she is young and innocent and in a corruption game there is no better starting point. There are already corrupt/pure pathing choices which keeps the player engaged. Without spoiling, an event happens that will change the life of the protag which is a great way to end this version of the game.

Look forward to seeing how far the rabbit hole goes for Veronica. Can't wait for the next update.