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dolfe67

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Adding fake choice for comedy worked very well in games like Projekt passion, where they added humor or some kind of interesting alternative that either way ended in a game over and you were immediately presented with return to previous choice or go to main menu.
But here it is just a frame or two of "nothing" and you're in the main menu.
The girl in the metro/subway says that the MC would probably be able to handle himself easily, but at every "wrong" choice the MC dies immediately.

My suggestion would be for the "Fake" choices to introduce non canonical scenes, like saying fuck this im out, and then a quick "epilogue".
Yeah this VN is kinetic, the choices are just a right one or a (obviously) wrong one which leads to bad ends. Could remove the choices entirely as they're useless and it's not interesting or fun

On another note, the MC got bullied too much while he's supposedly smart. And how did they remove his clothes through his helmet and gun in hand? Without him waking up?
 

BigH4nd

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got to where i could save. closed it n went to bed. went to resume it, but cant even load saves unless i do the prolog again??
Hi RedBone

Thank you for your feedback, I haven't received any feedback from other players with similar issues since the new version was released, and I haven't found any similar issues when testing the new version on two different computers. However, I have to admit that the code for the "ban save" feature is not very robust, so there are many unexpected bugs, and my initial guess is that your archive is not saving the persistent correctly.

It is recommended that you create an archive completely from scratch in version 0.2, older versions of archives usually have a lot of problems. Or furthermore provide me with more information about it and let's see what went wrong.

Apologies for the bad experience you had during your playthrough.
 

BigH4nd

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Yeah this VN is kinetic, the choices are just a right one or a (obviously) wrong one which leads to bad ends. Could remove the choices entirely as they're useless and it's not interesting or fun

On another note, the MC got bullied too much while he's supposedly smart. And how did they remove his clothes through his helmet and gun in hand? Without him waking up?
Hi dolfe67

Thank you for your feedback. Your opinion about this plot is very precise and I have to be honest and tell you that there are serious logic problems with this plot, but the point I'm trying to make is that this is a visual novel that doesn't take itself that seriously, which may be mixed with some of my personal bad taste and little designs ;)

After all, this is a total hobby work, and I'm making this game with 100% passion. As such, sometimes I'll add plots that I find dramatic, even if they seem very presumptuous or have serious logic problems. If such plots cause you great confusion and seriously affect your playing experience, I will reduce the frequency of such logic problems in the future.
 

BigH4nd

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Thank you for these valuable suggestions, Wolfram99!

i pushed all the available sliders to the left and some sounds still came through, like background.
Yes, this issue will be properly addressed in subsequent updates.

Adding fake choice for comedy worked very well in games like Projekt passion, where they added humor or some kind of interesting alternative that either way ended in a game over and you were immediately presented with return to previous choice or go to main menu.
But here it is just a frame or two of "nothing" and you're in the main menu.
The girl in the metro/subway says that the MC would probably be able to handle himself easily, but at every "wrong" choice the MC dies immediately.

My suggestion would be for the "Fake" choices to introduce non canonical scenes, like saying fuck this im out, and then a quick "epilogue".
You've pointed out narrative contradictions and gameplay inconsistencies that I definitely need to improve on. I particularly like your idea of transforming "fake choices" into non-canonical mini-scenarios, which would be much more engaging than the simple death + main menu flow. I completely agree that players should receive more feedback and a smoother experience after making incorrect choices, rather than just a few frames before returning to the main menu. I'll redesign these choice points to include more interesting alternative endings and more convenient "return to previous choice" options.

The way you described Projekt Passion handling these choices sounds great, I'll check out this game to learn how they cleverly turn fake choices into added value for the game rather than points of frustration.

in general RenPy games when you right click you are immediately presented with the Save file grid, although you need an extra click for the Load file grid.
In your game you are presented with a Main menu overlay and then you need to click Save/load to access the save file grid.
I think I see what you mean, the original reason I went with this design was because I wanted to design the right-click callout menu to be an in-helmet view of the MC, and to do that I also created a filter layer to make the whole interface look like you're looking at the outside world through an electronic display or glass window. So far this design has not been well represented and has interfered with the player's Save actions, I'll look into improving this. It's nice to show the Save menu directly, but I need to think about it more :unsure:

when one choice leads to losing all of your progress irrevocably then it is not that pleasant.
There is a reason why RenPy is winning the AVN war, with Unreal, RPGM, Unity being way less used, and a lot of those games in the end transfer to Renpy.

Now you need to pretty much manually save scum with saving at every choice, while normally the RenPy would do that for you.
My journey into visual novels began with gal game, where most titles I played in my youth featured quite unforgiving choice designs. As you correctly pointed out, many options would irreversibly erase all progress, conditioning players to save before every decision. While I've personally become accustomed to this "save-scum" approach, I don't necessarily endorse it as optimal game design, it's simply a habit ingrained from my formative gaming years :( But I guess I do need to keep up with the changing times; I've only been working with the Ren'Py engine for about a year, and I admittedly haven't played enough modern Ren'Py titles to fully appreciate how player expectations have evolved. Your feedback has been eye-opening, it clearly indicates that auto-save functionality is something many contemporary Ren'Py players consider essential, a perspective I've overlooked. Ren'Py's success likely stems partly from its player-friendly features like autosaving, which I've neglected to properly implement.

I'll definitely restore the auto-save interface in future updates, though I'll maintain the narrative consistency by only enabling it after players unlock the Save/Load ability within the story.

I feel very fortunate to have received so much suggests and guidance from you, I think we are both trying to make this game better and that makes me deeply touched, thanks again for all the suggestions!
 
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Juerhullycin

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Lmfao, this dude keeps losing his gun he might as well throw it away, its ridiculous. He should just nail the gun to his hand.
He could do it like Khorn Berserkers and chain his weapons to his wrists. They do it not to lose their weapons when they try to gouge out their enemies' eyes or try to strangle them in their berserker's rage.
 

Anyminako

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I love where she fear wetting :love: but I would like the POV when she do squirming her legs while holding pee. Add more omorashi content would be best game for me. (Wetting herself or pee desperation only) :)
 

Fierzo

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Hi Dev, are you interested in making a discord? I speak Chinese too and can help you with English language or grammatical questions.
 

BigH4nd

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I love where she fear wetting :love: but I would like the POV when she do squirming her legs while holding pee. Add more omorashi content would be best game for me. (Wetting herself or pee desperation only) :)
Hello Anyminako

I know exactly what you mean ;) I actually planned this content during the first version making process. I left a choice as a lead-in, but didn't finish the content in it due to time rush (eg. view of squirming her legs while holding pee). Such choices would have allowed players to view omorashi content, as well as other sexual fetish content, to their liking. I think I'll refine this in the follow-up.
 
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BigH4nd

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Hi Dev, are you interested in making a discord? I speak Chinese too and can help you with English language or grammatical questions.
Hi Fierzo

I'm aware of the Discord thing, but I've never used it before :( and my use of it is limited to private chat contact, with no knowledge of how to set up a Discord group/server.

I welcome players to start a discord community, but since I don't have the time to moderate it, the community will be semi-official, player-organized group. If you are interested in this, you can contact me through my Patreon.
 

Lakeville339

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Aug 8, 2024
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Hi everyone
I noticed that the previous link seemed to have expired, so I re-uploaded the patch and added the Mega download.

Is it possible for you to make one link from mega as well? Coz I don't really like using any other platforms for downloading. If not I totally understand, just asking in case if it's available.





This file contains nothing new and is the same as the previous patch. It is just for the file to avoid expiration.
 
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riotman

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May 30, 2024
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Really nice game. Solid visuals that's already way, waaaay better than some games out there for years that's also been funded to heck. My only gripe is that it's extremely linear like a kinetic novel because some the choices just straight up kills you and never lets you build your MC's personality making him a wimp instead of a badass power fantasy gigachad that I always like to go for my first play through, but hey I get it. The game will be way more huge in every relevant scale than it already is if it's that way. I'll still be keeping an eye on this one. Rootin' for ya!

I really just want to shoot the people, or at the very least slap, who crossed or looked at the MC wrong without dying 2 seconds later.
 

w123t4

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Surprisingly for the first game you make is quite impressive, the model and lighting are well develop that make me hard to think this is a rookie's work, also rare to see another japanese developer(based on itch's word, if I am not mistaken) in this forum, good job! (y)
However I still think some scenes are a little bit off as some of the cutscene seems missing that scene jump one side to the other side, maybe it is because I am using the lemonade mod?:unsure:
Still, as the game are quite good for its release, I notice it should have more meaningful choices that can affect the story plot. Currently in the game have choices that will immediately lead to game over, I am not saying it is wrong but giving the player options to choice is also important! If the story will go the same no matter what you choose then why should it added in the game? I would even read faster when I don't need to choose the choices.:cautious:
The option to have choices are either make the game's plot go differently to let player see different content(Even many galgame have this function, for example in fate stay night you can have different ending by choosing different options) or forming mc's personality by choices(For example, projekt passion said by above comment), neither I had seen these in your game, then what is the benefit of adding fake choices in your game?:confused:
Beside from the choices problem, I wonder how many Li will be in the game? Are they all appear in the game already? Currently we have 6 in the profile list, is "purpose" also one of the Li? Between the Lis I most like her and emily, looking forward to see more content about them!:p
Speaking of Li, how can we enter their path? Is this doing automatically or we need to have enough point to get into the romance plot? Will it be a relal harem type game(Can have all the girl at the end) or a fake harem one(Need to choose only 1 Li at the end)? What will be the future game tag? Will there be incest or pregnancy content?:unsure:
 

Lakeville339

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Hi everyone

Starting from this version, my work schedule will no longer align with the author's work schedule. This means that the Lemon content for each version will be released later than the current official version. You will need to wait for the next version to see the Lemon content from the current version.

As before, if you have any questions, please quote me here, not the original author.
 
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darlic

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Hi everyone

Starting from this version, my work schedule will no longer align with the author's work schedule. This means that the Lemon content for each version will be released later than the current official version. You will need to wait for the next version to see the Lemon content from the current version.

As before, if you have any questions, please quote me here, not the original author.
In other, more comprehensible words: if you want nsfw content, you'll have to wait for v0.3. :KEK:
 

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Thanks for the Mac version, Bob!
 
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