Are we getting so use to

Tease Me

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bad games, produced by lazy developers or what? It seems to be the amount of real porn in games has increased in the past two years. Also the amount of game using Illusion's base characters has increased. I don't mind either one, if the are done right, or are a bit original, but the majority are just redux of games we have already played. Chemicals, Magic Spells, and Black mail are the three top ways of getting laid in these games. These three are used way too often in the games. There is very little seduction used to Corrupt another person into doing the MC's will.

Now lets move to translation.. Google and Bing translation are good to get the basic Idea of what is on a web page. Use of them to translate more complex ideas or writings has draw backs, such as Gender errors and mistakes in word selection as well as grammar. Many words in most languages have different meanings depending on how or where they are used. Literally translating words may result sentences having a completely different meaning than that of the original language. Therefore developers must have a basic knowledge of the language they are translating to, or must have a person who is help them translate.

Spell check is great. However automatic correction should never be used. Too many times the automatic correction will put in a word close to the mistake in spelling but way different in meaning. I have seen this in my own communications.

I do understand that all the tools and methods I mentioned above have there place but developers need to spend a bit more effort in making them work correctly, instead of just slapping a game together in hopes of getting Mega Bucks.
 

Untolddead

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I mean that easy to say. But we are on a pirate website soo. I mean adult games don't make much money unless they are lucky. It takes a lot of time and money to make a good game or translate something.
 
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I think it's just a matter of perspective.

My feeling is the opposite: quality of games has really gone up the last few years.
Renders have improved, Honey Select decreased (although still somewhat popular), RPGM almost disappeared, etc.

Maybe you have to find some statistical evidence...
 

anne O'nymous

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bad games, produced by lazy developers or what?
The answer is "what".

The more there's games, the more their will be real porn ones, games using an Illusion studio for the CG, and badly translated games.

But also, and it's the important point, the more there's games, the more interesting, well wrote and good looking games will appear. And the more there's games of great quality, the more it inspire authors to dedicate more time on the quality of their own creation.

Two years ago, there were one new quality game by year, nowadays it's at least one new every month.
 

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About bad games, I don't think that we are getting used to it. First than anything, all these games are done by amateur people most of the time with no experience in game design, writing or story telling at all so I'm not sure why anyone would expect certain amount of quality to say that now we are getting used to bad/lazy/low effort games.

The way I see these games is similar to how I see e-sports. The bigger a game gets, the more people will know it and notice that you can find two things in that game: fun and money. So you'll see a huge boom of new players trying to have fun and/or make money with the game. Around 99% of them will suck or be average at best, but that remaining 1% will be great and make the game a better e-sport with more quality players, pushing the meta further or even completely changing it. As was said above, now we're getting a quality game way more often than before.

A quick note on when people call Illusion games as low effort just because they're made on HS/KK. To start with, it isn't like everyone has a good pc to run DAZ without waiting 3 hours for each render you know, but besides that, I got tired of watching the exact same characters and exact same locations with minimal to no changes at all in 90% of the DAZ games here. The funny part of that is that most people only notice that and call it lazy/low effort when it's done on HS/KK. Apparently DAZ games are never lazy/low effort games when it comes to that.
 

おい!

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bad games, produced by lazy developers or what? It seems to be the amount of real porn in games has increased in the past two years. Also the amount of game using Illusion's base characters has increased. I don't mind either one, if the are done right, or are a bit original, but the majority are just redux of games we have already played. Chemicals, Magic Spells, and Black mail are the three top ways of getting laid in these games. These three are used way too often in the games. There is very little seduction used to Corrupt another person into doing the MC's will.

Now lets move to translation.. Google and Bing translation are good to get the basic Idea of what is on a web page. Use of them to translate more complex ideas or writings has draw backs, such as Gender errors and mistakes in word selection as well as grammar. Many words in most languages have different meanings depending on how or where they are used. Literally translating words may result sentences having a completely different meaning than that of the original language. Therefore developers must have a basic knowledge of the language they are translating to, or must have a person who is help them translate.

Spell check is great. However automatic correction should never be used. Too many times the automatic correction will put in a word close to the mistake in spelling but way different in meaning. I have seen this in my own communications.

I do understand that all the tools and methods I mentioned above have there place but developers need to spend a bit more effort in making them work correctly, instead of just slapping a game together in hopes of getting Mega Bucks.
Have you noticed the amount of freeloaders bitching and moaning about games and devs over the last 2 years? If you don't like it don't download it, it is as simple as that.;) You obviously cannot do any better yourself, because if you could we would have seen it by now.(y)
 

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Have you noticed the amount of freeloaders bitching and moaning about games and devs over the last 2 years? If you don't like it don't download it, it is as simple as that.;) You obviously cannot do any better yourself, because if you could we would have seen it by now.(y)
How can you know if a game is bad if you don't download it and play it though? And once downloaded and played it only makes sense to rate a game honestly, correct?
 
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Spfjolietjake

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I think there are some in this forum that just love to bitch. I've seen a lot of entertaining games trashed for petty reasons. If you are paying for the games go bitch where you pay, if you are getting them free be thankful and don't be rude little trolls. Constructive criticism doesn't include being a douche
 

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Personally, if something annoys me, then if I encounter it often then I'll find it even more annoying.
 

anne O'nymous

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Around 99% of them will suck or be average at best, but that remaining 1% will be great and make the game a better e-sport with more quality players, pushing the meta further or even completely changing it.
And anyway it doesn't mean that among the 99% there isn't many that are pleasing to see play.
They lack of something to make it to the 1%, but it don't mean that they necessarily are bad, just not good enough. And obviously, the more you'll see good players, the more you'll see the default of the others ; which is also the same for games.


A quick note on when people call Illusion games as low effort just because they're made on HS/KK. [...] The funny part of that is that most people only notice that and call it lazy/low effort when it's done on HS/KK. Apparently DAZ games are never lazy/low effort games when it comes to that.
In top of that, when you look at nowadays games using an Illusion studio for the CG, and compare to what was the average two years ago, there's a difference. And this difference don't just come from the quality of the last generation studio. The creators also pass more time working on their scenes, and some also pass time post-processing the CG to make them looks better.
This while there's still way to many Daz3D users who don't even try to tweak a little the figures they'll use, don't bother with meshes collision, and I don't talk about the clothes that follow every single curves of the body. If you're a real pervert, you can even find many games where the girls' panties change when they remove their clothes ; this is due to the fact that the said clothes come with a panty, and the dev didn't bothered to remove it and put the panty you'll see in the next scene.
Proportionally to the number of games, there's more average CG with Daz3D than with an Illusion studio.
 

Hadley

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Bad low effort Games will never survive long, so I really don't care much about them. There are enough good high-quality Games out there.
 

おい!

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A quick note on when people call Illusion games as low effort just because they're made on HS/KK. To start with, it isn't like everyone has a good pc to run DAZ without waiting 3 hours for each render you know, but besides that, I got tired of watching the exact same characters and exact same locations with minimal to no changes at all in 90% of the DAZ games here. The funny part of that is that most people only notice that and call it lazy/low effort when it's done on HS/KK. Apparently DAZ games are never lazy/low effort games when it comes to that.
I think you mean Illusion assets and not Illusion games, I have never seen anyone make an Illusion game apart from Illusion. Even FAKKU did not make Honey Select Unlimited, all they did was pay for a license to release and sell an uncensored and English version of Honey Select. Which in my opinion was not as good as the original Japanese version.
 

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90% 9% 1%.

And you have tags and ratings, if you look for quality and kinks you like you will find something.
 

lovemenut

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If you have a patreon hell yeah I am gonna judge you for your bad game... people are donating expecting something in return. If you don't, then I just move on search for a better game.