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why is ntr the most popular genre
The lack of empathy of creators towards their own creations makes them free of developing and writing stories that can't affect them in any level, neither emotionally nor psychologically. They see them as nothing more than a thing, they can't or won't picture themselves as the "affected" ones because nothing of this is real and there's no real reason to force yourself to be in the shoes of the non-existent cucked ones.
This also happens with the consumers, in which case they see themselves as the guy stealing the hot woman for themselves, because again: Why would they want to be in the shoes of the affected?
 

Centurionzo

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I tried a full save and look like the truth and revenge are still in Japonese

Can someone explain the plot ? For what I understand the girls betray him and he just kill them and have sex with they corpses
 

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I tried a full save and look like the truth and revenge are still in Japonese

Can someone explain the plot ? For what I understand the girls betray him and he just kill them and have sex with they corpses
Lel so all of the revenge parts of the game are in Japanese still? Those were the only parts I was interested in. What a disappointment.
 
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lastjournals

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this game was made by someone who hates ntr, thats why its so bad..

things happening in the game aren't even ntr, they are just lies, betrayal, and tragic death. most of the time mc just went john wick on the villains

good NTR with betrayal in my opinion is something like Dark Hero Party
 

BorgarBoi

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Because it allows for stories with tension and stakes which are classic themes in dramatic narratives because they are engaging.

Imagine a story about a couple who fall in love and everything works out fine. That's a pretty boring story.
Now imagine a story about the same couple, but insert some element of deceit, betrayal, lust and risk.
Which story do you think would make for the more exciting narrative?
This forgets the sage advice that the creator of DOOM gave us. Plot in a videogame, much like plot in a porno is nice, but that's not what we're here for. What we're here for is a good "experience". Watching a guy cry and whine and take injustice like a bitch is not a good experience imho, but it is certainly something different for a jaded deviant. Seriously, too much of the genre stars a caricature of a MC whose entire purpose is to be a punching bag to self-insert as. I get what you describe out of the perfectly sufficient cheating tag, but NTR is undeniably for the masochist chasing a new high.

The lack of empathy of creators towards their own creations makes them free of developing and writing stories that can't affect them in any level, neither emotionally nor psychologically. They see them as nothing more than a thing, they can't or won't picture themselves as the "affected" ones because nothing of this is real and there's no real reason to force yourself to be in the shoes of the non-existent cucked ones.
This also happens with the consumers, in which case they see themselves as the guy stealing the hot woman for themselves, because again: Why would they want to be in the shoes of the affected?
It'd be so much easier to ignore it if the perspective wasn't almost entirely from the guy getting cucked, or if they didn't hamfist his sorrows at every opportunity. Either way, I'm not so heartless as to not pity the fictional loser.

You know what would be nice? NTR'ing a Lesbian couple, now that would be fascinating.
 
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lmfyg666

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a punching bag to self-insert as.
I've never understood this "self-insert" stuff, but if you can't experience a story without imagining yourself as the main character, then there's always Netori. Netorare and Netori are basically the exact same to me. Just looking at the same story from two different directions. Netorase, however, is something else. And not something I have any interest in.

And regarding the Doom analogy. Sure, sometimes I'm in the mood for Doom, and sometimes not. That's why there are different genres. At other times I'm in the mood for The Last of Us, or Portal, or X-COM, or Noita, or Starcraft, or Disco Elysium, or Mario Kart. Variation is a a virtue. For me that also applies when it comes to games with any kind of sexual content.
 
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Sussy Old Man

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finished the game

this game was made by someone who hates ntr, thats why its so bad..

things happening in the game aren't even ntr, they are just lies, betrayal, and tragic death. most of the time mc just went john wick on the villains

good NTR with betrayal in my opinion is something like Dark Hero Party
I mean... they literally said it was an NTR "revenge" story. This was a change of pace from the typical "cuck gets cucked and moves on" plot. When you see revenge in NTR, you can't expect the cuck be thinking like "Oh I got cucked, now I have to live my life miserably while they keep fucking my partner and pretend I didn't see that" LOL
 

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I've never understood this "self-insert" stuff, but if you can't experience a story without imagining yourself as the main character, then there's always Netori. Netorare and Netori are basically the exact same to me. Just looking at the same story from two different directions. Netorase, however, is something else. And not something I have any interest in.

And regarding the Doom analogy. Sure, sometimes I'm in the mood for Doom, and sometimes not. That's why there are different genres. At other times I'm in the mood for The Last of Us, or Portal, or X-COM, or Noita, or Starcraft, or Disco Elysium, or Mario Kart. Variation is a a virtue. For me that also applies when it comes to games with any kind of sexual content.
Yeah, I know about Netori, but broadly speaking tag sites tend not to distinguish between the two and keep it all under the same umbrella of NTR. I don't think I misspoke, but I do know how to separate reality from fiction and every time I give NTR a chance the perspective the experience is written from is clearly from the guy getting cucked. Do you think it wouldn't kill my boner to be constantly reminded of some bastard's heartbreak? That's why I brought up the cheating tag, that's putting focus on infidelity to a reasonable level. NTR is best summarized as cheating + mindbreak but instead of focusing on the fappable interactions with the woman, the artist and writer decided it was better to agonize over fictional relationships that exist to be ruined.

If you're thinking I'm totally opposed to the genre existing, I recall liking Bad Ending Party by ratatatat74, the art knows what we're here for so a sensitive soul could ignore the written context and just fap away if they couldn't resist the temptation. There was another work whose title or artist I couldn't remember the name of, about an exhibitionist couple. The guy is filming his wife stripping and masturbating in a commercial district at night, but they're caught by a group of passerbys and they proceed to wrestle the camera away from him and gangbang his wife without him protesting, ending with her agreeing to visit the gang at a hotel of their choosing regularly to film and bring back footage to the husband. There's another similar work where an NTR fan pays some guy to bang his consenting GF while he watches them indirectly via the silhouette they leave on some sheets (shadows and silhouettes are underrated, I should look for it again), only for the GF to break up with him for the guy he paid in the end. Besides that, I can't remember anything that isn't essentially "haha this dipshit can't do anything to keep his woman, here's 34 pages of exposition and him crying with crumbs of tits and ass so we can still pretend to be porn"

Honestly, the point of disassociation is a cope because rape is a pretty good genre and yet nobody sane would say they want to identify with the rapist, yet plenty are coming (lol) to see a woman defiled anyway.

This was a change of pace from the typical "cuck gets cucked and moves on" plot.
Moves on? Lol, I don't remember ever seeing an NTR MC move on. I remember when Terasu MC initially gained notoriety and he never gave that midget a break.
 
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Sussy Old Man

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Moves on? Lol, I don't remember ever seeing an NTR MC move on. I remember when Terasu MC initially gained notoriety and he never gave that midget a break.
Move on as in carry on with his life as if he can't do anything about it and accepting the whore side of his wife intead of walking away from the NTR guy and the girl. And I agree about Terasu MC. He is absolutely ruthless to the guy getting cucked Especially the one where the transfer kid bangs the gf, sis, mom and friend.
 
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Holy shit the death scene with Kouichi is funny.
"I'm his mate."
Doesn't bother to call the attention of the zombie towards himself
Kouichi dies for absolutely nothing LOL
 
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Just finished the game. Pretty kino. Not the best in H-scene but the content and side content are entertaining enough. I didn't like the religion one though, hard to see the event locations due to the star being a similar color to the floor.
 

KuromeKnights

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anyone can help me? i play this game on joiplay but when going to the animated scene H, there is only sound, no image appears or the screen is just black, but on the PC it can run normally
 
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