Tried to play the game but it crushes after I click play, any suggestions or just wait for newer less buggy version?
KiWolfGirl
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Don't worry guys...even if you DID have a Subscribestar account subbed to him you can't access the new build. And he hasn't responded in over a week to the people there.
If you want a gay platformer, go play Oh So Hero. The fact is there is a severe lack in STRAIGHT furry platformers. Or at least, good ones.
KiWolfGirl
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Look at Kincaid. https://f95zone.to/threads/kincaid-2020-10-cookiedraggy.27547/
Same quality level of OhSoHero but straight, pretty much.
nanoender123
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Wait sorry, Is the actual password "Idk" Or do you actually NOT know the password.
moohoo
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and that's the kind of quality we have come to expect from this game.
This game runs like shit, way too much of a resource hog. I tried it out and it was a flip show.
That Oh so Hero game on the other hand is smooth like butter.
That Oh so Hero game on the other hand is smooth like butter.
nanoender123
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My engrish is top notch at 3am after few drinks but yean, i do not know the pass, just the id, ill try to datamine a bit if you want but not gonna waste too much time on it.
vorpaltiger
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so now instead of the game being a frame every 2 mins, it now just crashes. why the fuck is this asshole even making games.
i feel bad for the people that are acutally supporting him through patreon or subscribestar. people need to wake up and pull their support from this poor excuse of a game.
i feel bad for the people that are acutally supporting him through patreon or subscribestar. people need to wake up and pull their support from this poor excuse of a game.
Sarkath
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I gave decompiling/data mining a shot earlier. Turns out, the devs ended up running the assembly through Obfuscator Pro, so the class names are all jumbled and the strings are all base64-encoded with the first character being xor'd against the results of a lookup table. Blech. I gave up after 15 minutes, but I still managed to get more fun out of that than I did playing the actual game, and made an interesting/horrifying discovery in the process.
I stumbled into the creature code at one point, and after going through it I kinda suspect that the widespread string obfuscation is one of the reasons that the game performs as "smoothly" as it does. Every time it looks up a string the runtime has to make two function calls—one to call into the decoder's wrapper library and one to jump into the actual decoding method with the appropriate magic number. The base class for all of the enemies in the game has a standard Unity Update() function, which performs no fewer than 13 string lookups (some creature implementations have even more). That means that the game is doing at least 26 function calls, per enemy, per frame. At 60fps, that's 1560 calls per second—again, per enemy—and given that Unity reportedly doesn't do much in the way sort of runtime inlining…yeah, that's gonna add up fast.
Just to attach some number to how bad this can get, on my system it took 2.5-3.2ms to perform 15600 of these decoding calls (1560 calls across ten enemies) using LINQPad 5, regardless of optimization settings. Considering it's 16.67ms per frame at 60fps, there's a pretty significant amount of time every frame dedicated to doing, well, nothing of value. Also, that's only considering enemies. I'm sure there's plenty of other objects that do this as well.
So, yeah, if 0.4.x (which wasn't obfuscated) ran fine and 0.5.x chugs, that's probably a big reason why.
I stumbled into the creature code at one point, and after going through it I kinda suspect that the widespread string obfuscation is one of the reasons that the game performs as "smoothly" as it does. Every time it looks up a string the runtime has to make two function calls—one to call into the decoder's wrapper library and one to jump into the actual decoding method with the appropriate magic number. The base class for all of the enemies in the game has a standard Unity Update() function, which performs no fewer than 13 string lookups (some creature implementations have even more). That means that the game is doing at least 26 function calls, per enemy, per frame. At 60fps, that's 1560 calls per second—again, per enemy—and given that Unity reportedly doesn't do much in the way sort of runtime inlining…yeah, that's gonna add up fast.
Just to attach some number to how bad this can get, on my system it took 2.5-3.2ms to perform 15600 of these decoding calls (1560 calls across ten enemies) using LINQPad 5, regardless of optimization settings. Considering it's 16.67ms per frame at 60fps, there's a pretty significant amount of time every frame dedicated to doing, well, nothing of value. Also, that's only considering enemies. I'm sure there's plenty of other objects that do this as well.
So, yeah, if 0.4.x (which wasn't obfuscated) ran fine and 0.5.x chugs, that's probably a big reason why.
vorpaltiger
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so the reason it runs like ass, also now it crashes a shit ton, is because he is so paranoid that people will try to what? steal his work? like anyone will touch that with a 10 foot poll knowing what kind of person jason is.
What a joke.. calling 0.5.5 a public build...
First thing you see when you boot up the game is a login prompt...
First thing you see when you boot up the game is a login prompt...
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Sarkath
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Oh, another thing I forgot to mention in my previous post: there's a bunch of silly little joke classes in the project. Stuff like "DontReadThisClass", containing a single private field with a string that says "I told you NOT to read it" (paraphrasing). Yep.
The fact that BBS just straight up isn't pleasant to play, even if it's running "smoothly," is just the icing on the cake. Kincaid and Oh So Hero! are far more deserving of support, IMO.
Considering how easy it was to decompile and make use of the string decoder, all it does is delay the inevitable. It wouldn't be all that difficult to brute force all of the strings in the program and pick out the appropriate one, assuming the dummy password is relying on that same form of obfuscation.
Or they could have just solely used the Patreon/SubscribeStar authentication APIs and called it a day. Alternatively, if they absolutely insist on including a bypass (…why?), they could have learned how to properly use the obfuscation tool so that it wouldn't add a gazillion function calls per frame to look up strings like "Move."
The fact that BBS just straight up isn't pleasant to play, even if it's running "smoothly," is just the icing on the cake. Kincaid and Oh So Hero! are far more deserving of support, IMO.