VN Ren'Py BattleArenaReyka [v0.0.3] [Artisnal Depravity]

[Wildfire25]

Is the game sub orientated? I'm only at the beginning but half the scenes has been Maya getting dominated by everyone else, her main fighting technique seems to be get dominated but make the other person come first and it sounds like you get rewarded more for losing then you do winning.

Which honestly is not really my thing, so I'm curious if that is something that will change or if this game is not for me.

 

[artisnal.depravity]

Is the game sub orientated? I'm only at the beginning but half the scenes has been Maya getting dominated by everyone else, her main fighting technique seems to be get dominated but make the other person come first and it sounds like you get rewarded more for losing then you do winning.

Which honestly is not really my thing, so I'm curious if that is something that will change or if this game is not for me.

Current concept is joy will sub for maya, octave can go either way, holly will dom for her but will not sub. Harry and Marcus are currently undecided. But yeah if you don't enjoy piloting a character who subs, probably not your game.

 

[artisnal.depravity]

Are you sure you don't want to do a Patreon for posting previews or beta builds? Could help catch bugs and typos, get good input and critique, etc. Unholy Arts has a neat system in place for it. People who are willing to pay to support development will probably give better input than the masses who don't.

Maybe eventually. We'll see how serious this gets.

 

[artisnal.depravity]

Enjoyed Nightgames, especially modded one. So, gonna look after this game.

Mind control plans?

Reyka's binding ward is mind control / enthrall.. It's used in both the octave revenge scene, and with marcus in his training intro. It will continue to be a mechanic maya will pick up as she learns ward magic

 

[OuterBusiness]

Reyka's binding ward is mind control / enthrall.. It's used in both the octave revenge scene, and with marcus in his training intro. It will continue to be a mechanic maya will pick up as she learns ward magic

That's really cool, do you have plans to have it enter the combat system? If so, would it be something unique to Maya that she learns on her own or something a new competitor or tutor provides?

 

[LowLevelLesser]

"Would you rather die now? Die later after being humiliated? Or die when I get bored of you after making you my pet?" - Oof... Reyka really needs to learn the art of creating "false hope". If her victim knows the situation is hopeless, then why bother agreeing to a seemingly pointless proposal that doesn't benefit them? I'd choose "morning snack" without hesitation and tell them to choke on it. Self-preservation instincts or desire for revenge can only go so far (but I understand Reyka's mental influence plays a part here too). I'll be happy to see Maya turn the tables on Reyka in the end though.

But besides that, really liking this game so far and looking forward to how things go from here.

 

[Newlinger]

updates out yall. Guide to getting all the new scenes:

* start the game, skip to day 2 if you'd like
* lose at least once to holly in a tourney or in dojo practice
* go see octave late at night after maya beats her in the first training session to get her revenge scene
* after octave's revenge, go see joy in her apartment in the day-time for her interrogation scene
* after joy's interrogation, meet up with harry in the media hall
* after all this, go to the dojo in the day-time, and you should see octave lose to holly
* follow octave's instructions and meet her in the dojo late at night to get the demon-dick training scene

There's also a reyka dream-scene that will randomly appear when you sleep after octave's revenge.

I've been experimenting a lot with the re-purposable sex animations I mentioned a long while ago now on the blog, you'll see a lot of that going on. I've also added cut-scenes in the fight system for spanks and tit-slaps, I plan to do a lot more of these for eg.. moves like osoto-gari and suplex so you can see the throws rather than just their aftermath.

The tournament will play every friday morning. Right now the same intro sequence will play for it every time but the q/a post fight interviews are actually programmatic, and are generated based on the content of the fights that occur in the tourney, which I think is kinda neat.

There are probably bugs. Lemme know.

I have no idea but these two does not seem to work or appear.
* after all this, go to the dojo in the day-time, and you should see octave lose to holly
* follow octave's instructions and meet her in the dojo late at night to get the demon-dick training scene

Please help, I tried to check dojo everyday but it does not work ;(

 

[artisnal.depravity]

I have no idea but these two does not seem to work or appear.
* after all this, go to the dojo in the day-time, and you should see octave lose to holly
* follow octave's instructions and meet her in the dojo late at night to get the demon-dick training scene

Please help, I tried to check dojo everyday but it does not work ;(

So the holly/octave dojo scene depends on the following "flags":

"lost_to_holly","octave_got_revenge", "harry_partner"

you pick up "lost_to_holly" the first time you lose to holly in a match.
you pick up "octave_got_revenge" in the octave revenge scene
you pick up "harry_partner" when you play through the meet-harry scene by visiting the media room after you've interrogated joy

you can check what flag you're missing by going into debug mode in renpy "shift-O" and typing eg.. "maya.is_flagged("lost_to_holly")

if you want to force the scene to occur, you can manually set those flags on maya with "maya.set_flag("<flag>")" , that function will return 'None'. Once you have all three of those, you should be able to go into the dojo and the scene will play

 

[artisnal.depravity]

That's really cool, do you have plans to have it enter the combat system? If so, would it be something unique to Maya that she learns on her own or something a new competitor or tutor provides?

Yep.. the idea is for maya to be able to purchase one-time-use wards from harry (amoung other things). As she levels up her magic they will get stronger, and she will be able to carry more of them into a fight. I'm not really sure if the other competitors will be allowed them since a) they aren't blowing harry as established in the narrative and b) the idea is for maya to overcome the advantages the other three already hold. I've been thinking, playing through this release a few times myself that I need to do a little balance work and make the other girls stronger to begin with. There will eventually be a mechanic where they'll level up week to week unless maya is somehow preventing them from doing so

 

[artisnal.depravity]

"Would you rather die now? Die later after being humiliated? Or die when I get bored of you after making you my pet?" - Oof... Reyka really needs to learn the art of creating "false hope". If her victim knows the situation is hopeless, then why bother agreeing to a seemingly pointless proposal that doesn't benefit them? I'd choose "morning snack" without hesitation and tell them to choke on it. Self-preservation instincts or desire for revenge can only go so far (but I understand Reyka's mental influence plays a part here too). I'll be happy to see Maya turn the tables on Reyka in the end though.

But besides that, really liking this game so far and looking forward to how things go from here.

Yeah heh. I don't know any demons personally, but in my mind there are things they're good at, like lawyer-tricks, fucking, lying, cheating, and magic, and there are things they're not so great at, like subtlety, humility, and the even-handed execution of a well-designed plan. So like many bad-guys, Reyka is given to over-confident monologue, and perhaps doesn't position herself as well as she could in a contingency planning sense.

 

[mevs]

First off I just want to say the games already looking great and I'm starved for more content! My main gripes currently are all battle system related. I think you're going for a "you progressively win checks to get a more dominant position" thing but it's currently really nebulous because instant wins just kind of happen from basically any intermediate position. If you have moderate advantage you can still get tit-slapped and instantly lose. If you're moderately disadvantaged you can still activate an armbar that they'll never hit the check to escape. My gut reaction is that all the girls need like quadruple health and stamina so you don't run into a situation where it only makes sense to be disadvantaged and spam tit-slap since it gives you a free turn every single time. Or perhaps a best 2/3 orgasm game mode. Just more reason to interact with all the grapples and really get that 'struggling for dominance' aesthetic. Another issue I have whenever I try to play more by the games intentions is getting stuck in a loop of (activate any standing grapple -> instantly break free -> activate any standing grapple -> instantly break free) until both characters are out of stamina. Maybe just make the escape chance worse so you're both incentivized to care about initiative AND progressing the grapple chain. Another gut instinct of mine is that the 'impossible' to escape submissions and pins should be pretty deep down the flowchart & only available from heavy advantage simply to keep things exciting, but I agree they absolutely should exist. I feel like the biggest strength of the system as far as eroge is concerned is that feeling of control being gained and lost. Maybe down the line with more systems and balancing the 'sneaky' seductress path feels more sneaky and seductive than going to cop a feel and losing to a submission because I didn't interact with the grapples. Besides that I'd like to see more mid-fight sexual options, but that's just my taste. Like finding a way to fit positions that wouldn't make sense for pseudo-realistic wrestling after a certain arousal threshold has been reached. Tribbing, 69s, symmetrical sex toy stuff, mutual touching, docking (forced or symmetrical). Stuff like that. Saving the really dominant stuff for the victory lap system that's already there. If the intention is for the game to be really wrestling focused w/ a lot of the sex being hyper dominant victory laps that's a fantastic aesthetic too! However you go about it I think this is the coolest project on the site and wish you luck.

 

[artisnal.depravity]

This is amazing feedback thanks. I have been having a lot of the same thoughts, and feeling lately like the fight-system needs some re-thought and attention. I think the primary constraint I'm dealing with is the clothing, and strap-on mechanics. I need there to be a line in the sand between outright fight-sex, and wrestling, because otherwise it quadruples the amount of art I need to create for the system to work. Currently I need art for every possible combination of positions, and if you make it possible for the girls to strip each other, and use strap-ons at any time, that number increases exponentially.

* I'm not sure why tit-slaps are so OP currently but I noticed that too and I think it's probably a bug
* I'm not sure whether the "sneaky gropes" should remain in the game; if so, perhaps maya shouldn't start out knowing them
* The fights should definitely be longer, and two or three gropes should not end things, so yes, rebalance work needs doing
* Pins need to become more interesting somehow.. maybe a minigame or something?
* I agree with pretty much everything you said about pins being difficult to obtain
* HOWEVER I do like the notion of each girl having a signature short-cut to a pin that you need to look out for

at any rate yeah I think the fight-system is the centerpoint of the game and definitely needs some work and re-thinking

 

[mevs]

Yeah I didn't even consider how awful it would be to re-tool all the art. So if you wanted to have more fight-sex I'd suggest something like just having it be a phase like the hard cut from wrestling to strap on. You could do something like pins having an option (note option since submissions are hot in this context) to cut to a fight-sex state where the girl who had the pin starts in heavy advantage or Maya has a sneaky exploit after she has a girl at some amount of arousal and it cuts you off from the wrestling flowchart for a unique sex-fight flowchart. Which might meaningfully expand Maya's seduction upgrade option possibilities. The other girls being able to jump into the state earlier from a style specific way at heavy advantage (so they can handily win early game/when the player doesn't know) etc. Either completely re-tooling the cut as is and expanding how long you stay in it (with the strap on being a heavy advantage finisher like a pin is in wrestling mode) or just adding a new cut entirely to keep the strap-on as an absolute "I've already won, you're mine" kinda thing. You probably don't have to worry much about stripping since you have a plethora of excuses for the clothes to just vanish in universe with succubus magic and players suspension of disbelief would just handle the rest.

Basically just expand the cut. The systems are absolutely already there and have the potential to make the game really interesting both as a video game and as porn. You could even do pretty minimal balancing to the current system if the cut was expanded and you'd get that effect of fights being longer. Also you won't want to kill yourself re-tooling the same art ad-nauseam. You'd just be doing more of what you've done but purely sexual positions without throwing out basically ANY work you've already done.

 

[Skateguy1786]

love the game as i loved night games. Question tho when i try to read the book in maya's apartment i get a error saying an exception has occurred. Is this just not done yet or did i miss something. I get this to trying to do a pin from full mount.

 

[Keaton FF]

So, gonna join in as well, giving some feedback.
First off, bugs: Only game-breaking I've found are when trying to put Joy in a Pin hold. Then the game crashes/exception occurs. Can play through it, but it doesn't pull up the scene.

Considering gameplay: the core is very solid. Definitely needs some rebalancing, as tit slap is OP as hell. While choke from back hold is more or less useless. Armbars, since there's no escape other then "struggle" from them, are also a bit OP right now.
Would love for some moves to be totally unique to each girl, except for Maya of course. She could be taught by the others, depending on your progress.
Same goes for the victory/loss scenes, which is, after the balancing issues, the Part that needs most work right now to improve on the good core system. They are very bland and too short imo. Consider your role model Night Games, the victory/loss scenes are mostly very intricate and more detailed than the sex fighting part. Maybe some new poses as well for the next update
Oh, and give the player something to do in the early morning. Having to take a nap because you can't do anything else is a bit weird
All in all, great job though so far, really like it. Love getting dommed by Joy though, she's exactly my type. So i hope she doesn't get too subby maybe having something like different paths for each girls where it tracks your winrate against them and adjusts behaviour accordingly? So while she doesnt go full domme at any point, if you lose consistently to her she gets much more confident, same in reverse though for Holly. She shouldn't turn super sub, but if winning against her constantly cracks in her persona begin to show... just my 2 cents, hope you'll continue working on the game

 

[OneInchMan]

Man, This was almost worth 10 months of wait, Sex Scenes were fantastic and the plot's intriguing too. Liked the fighting system too, with so many options available but I guess Maya's superpower are gropes attacks. The Dev needs to keeps updating about the game like he used to, as I really thought this game with such high potential was gonna get abandoned. Try creating a patreon or a discord server. Will def recommend this game cause it hurts to see it being this underrated.

 

[artisnal.depravity]

Thanks for all the feedback yall, it's SUPER helpful. I've located the missing graphic that's crashing out when you attempt to pin joy, and have a bunch of new thoughts to work out around the fight-system.

 

[Nahtecraft]

Thanks for all the feedback yall, it's SUPER helpful. I've located the missing graphic that's crashing out when you attempt to pin joy, and have a bunch of new thoughts to work out around the fight-system.

Great to hear!...on an extra note for feed back could you add more facesitting stuff? its not a common thing in games these days and i enjoy the north to south pin alot

 

[Doctor Shark]

First time playing. Got to the Tuesday training session with Marcus and the practice match with Octave and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing now. Is there a fight scheduled and I can just kill time by training or visiting the girls until then?

 

[felt153]

I'm really enjoying this game, it've a incredible potential. Only one suggestion, it'll be possible to add some breast smother moves in the fight?