Others Beat Banger [v4.6] [BunFan Games]

[The Screen of the damnned]

I wonder how close to finishing the game is.

 

[PonderingPanda]

I wonder how close to finishing the game is.

Why would they ever finish it? It's free money. Just release some merch, tweak some levels/scenes... maybe add a new one every couple of years (half finished, ofc).

 

[Mr.GGraCHCH]

Thanks! They've got sketch files in the act 2 files in the game files so I just figured why wait for them to do it?
I think they've got Cathy and Zoe currently in the game files but unsure if there's more on Patreon.

I could always look at the Dawna file as well but I'm unsure if they're about to release that one.

listen, I have just a huge archive with everything that has ever been in bb, sketches of animations, unreleased animations and so on, if necessary, I can share

 

[LettucePr]

what the fuck are they doing with all this money?

Hoarding it of course, That's patreon 101 trickle feed content, just enough to keep the revenue coming in.

 

[Metamaterial]

listen, I have just a huge archive with everything that has ever been in bb, sketches of animations, unreleased animations and so on, if necessary, I can share

I can contribute game releases too if you need those.

 

[Necromancer85]

what the fuck are they doing with all this money?

probably building a rocket to mars or private island with real life pokemons

 

[Snowsexxx32]

what the fuck are they doing with all this money?

Doesn't look like they're making that much to start with.

Hoarding it of course, That's patreon 101 trickle feed content, just enough to keep the revenue coming in.

Not sure there's really any to hoard.

While I'm not sure how well they're actually doing on steam, itch, and merch... Patreon shows BunFan making about $7700/mo. After patreon fees but before taxes that's ~$6500. Bunfan appears to be an LLC in Florida, so 5.5% corp tax and some amount of sales tax, down to ~$6150 to pay people with, assuming they don't spend money on anything else. Taxes for paying people, ~13% for FICA and FUTA, and ~2.7% state in Florida, now we're down to ~$5175. Assuming the discussion on discord about even split among employees, which there appear to be 4-7 (i'll go with 5 for easy math), they could be seeing up to $1000/mo before they pay their own income taxes, as well as pay fees for taking disbursements from patreon.

So ballpark, if there are 5 employees working full time, though I'd guess nobody's actually full time on this project, they'd be making less than US minimum wage.

For context, if Kom just took all the money from patreon and didn't pay anyone, he'd be seeing $62k a year. The median/25th percentile for an entry level video game artist, 75% would make more than you, is $80k a year. So yeah, I'd agree that he seems to be a poor businessman, but while there's drama here I don't know what people here are going on about.

 

[TripleDex]

listen, I have just a huge archive with everything that has ever been in bb, sketches of animations, unreleased animations and so on, if necessary, I can share

That'd be awesome if you'd be happy to share.

I can contribute game releases too if you need those.

Yeah absolutely, if you send over everything then I'll happily compile everything and then work on this kind of thing.
It's great practice and cleanup work is definitely beneficial for my learning process.

 

[UnrealEyes]

As said before. I knew this day would, letting an 18-19 year old in charge to fix / modify the game for the dev team, while also treating him like shit. The man was never emotional mature enough to deal with any of this and the people that could help him, refused and let this kid just rot in this cycle. The guy tried multiple times to push fixes into the main game through kom only for kom to ignore and later on remove his access to the source code. This was an issue that was building up for months, and most people ignored it until it was too late.

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Just another disappointment to the list.

F to respect, he's a great programmer, sadly the BB Dev Team doesn't respect his hardwork.

 

[UnrealEyes]

Don't know about that, less and less mods are coming out, most of the ones that do are honestly pretty low quality, and people are starting to voice their dislike of Toriel reskins. At this rate i don't see the game maintaining an audience unless talented animators try to make some new mods, like the Kat one, which i consider to be even better than some levels in the actual game. Because, let's be honest here, the game is pretty much abandoned at this point and unless the new artist actually gives a shit unlike Kom and makes some good levels quickly, i doubt people will stick around any longer.

Yeah, sadly some modders with interesting potential mods left the server after giving up due the server behavior or getting banned/kicked for silly reasons

 

[Arta.umb]

I made an AHK cheat script for Beat Banger that automatically plays the game for you, simply install Autohotkey, make a new .ahk file and copy paste this code and run it.

Loop  {
    sleep, %Accuracy%

    PixelSearch, Px, Py, 949, 905, 990, 953, 0x198CC7, 30,  Fast RGB

    if (errorlevel = 0) && WinActive("ahk_exe beatbanger.exe")
    {
        Send,Z
        Sleep, 75
        Continue
    }

    PixelSearch, Px, Py, 949, 905, 990, 953, 0xED780D, 40,  Fast RGB

    if (errorlevel = 0) && WinActive("ahk_exe beatbanger.exe")
    {
        Send,X
        Sleep, 75
        Continue
    }
   
    PixelSearch, Px, Py, 949, 905, 990, 953, 0xC72B17, 30,  Fast RGB

    if (errorlevel = 0) && WinActive("ahk_exe beatbanger.exe")
    {
        Send,C
        Sleep, 75
        Continue
    }
   
    PixelSearch, Px, Py, 949, 905, 990, 953, 0xAB2B63, 30,  Fast RGB

    if (errorlevel = 0) && WinActive("ahk_exe beatbanger.exe")
    {
        Send,V
        Sleep, 75
        Continue
    }
   
    Continue
}

My good friends helped me learn a few things about AutoHotKey specifically color aimbot, and i've managed to get it working very well.

Here's a preview, it works with mods too:

Make sure your game is on windowed mode and is maximized to the screen, otherwise it will not work well, an if you have any issues, try changing "Sleep, 75" to a different number in order to change the key press delay, or change the "30" next to Fast RGB for color variance, keep it around 30-40~ or else it won't work properly.

i cant adjust the window like you do in the video as result it doesnt work and i dont know why i cant do it

 

[UnrealEyes]

Yeah, sadly some modders with interesting potential mods left the server after giving up due the server behavior or getting banned/kicked for silly reasons

Spoiler: Sadly there's mods with potential that probably will not see the daylight in BB server, many times the server mood-kills that people.

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[Arta.umb]

the mods doesnt work and theres an issue with the handsfree mode please help

 

[Axis3123]

Spoiler: Sadly there's mods with potential that probably will not see the daylight in BB server, many times the server mood-kills that people.

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Duuuuuuuude what? That Shantae one looks clean, and despite the Toriel one being, well, a re-draw, it's original enough to deserve a new coat of paint.

Damn

 

[StapleComm]

While I'm not sure how well they're actually doing on steam, itch, and merch... Patreon shows BunFan making about $7700/mo. After patreon fees but before taxes that's ~$6500. Bunfan appears to be an LLC in Florida, so 5.5% corp tax and some amount of sales tax, down to ~$6150 to pay people with, assuming they don't spend money on anything else. Taxes for paying people, ~13% for FICA and FUTA, and ~2.7% state in Florida, now we're down to ~$5175. Assuming the discussion on discord about even split among employees, which there appear to be 4-7 (i'll go with 5 for easy math), they could be seeing up to $1000/mo before they pay their own income taxes, as well as pay fees for taking disbursements from patreon.

So ballpark, if there are 5 employees working full time, though I'd guess nobody's actually full time on this project, they'd be making less than US minimum wage.

For context, if Kom just took all the money from patreon and didn't pay anyone, he'd be seeing $62k a year. The median/25th percentile for an entry level video game artist, 75% would make more than you, is $80k a year. So yeah, I'd agree that he seems to be a poor businessman, but while there's drama here I don't know what people here are going on about.

huh... ok yeah that's... fair, but still kinda shitty how little stuff is being accomplished here

 

[PonderingPanda]

Doesn't look like they're making that much to start with.


Not sure there's really any to hoard.

While I'm not sure how well they're actually doing on steam, itch, and merch... Patreon shows BunFan making about $7700/mo. After patreon fees but before taxes that's ~$6500. Bunfan appears to be an LLC in Florida, so 5.5% corp tax and some amount of sales tax, down to ~$6150 to pay people with, assuming they don't spend money on anything else. Taxes for paying people, ~13% for FICA and FUTA, and ~2.7% state in Florida, now we're down to ~$5175. Assuming the discussion on discord about even split among employees, which there appear to be 4-7 (i'll go with 5 for easy math), they could be seeing up to $1000/mo before they pay their own income taxes, as well as pay fees for taking disbursements from patreon.

So ballpark, if there are 5 employees working full time, though I'd guess nobody's actually full time on this project, they'd be making less than US minimum wage.

For context, if Kom just took all the money from patreon and didn't pay anyone, he'd be seeing $62k a year. The median/25th percentile for an entry level video game artist, 75% would make more than you, is $80k a year. So yeah, I'd agree that he seems to be a poor businessman, but while there's drama here I don't know what people here are going on about.

There are bigger games that had less funding that had significantly more development over the time period. Compare this to say, Oh So Hero! which used to have less funding (although its surpassed it by now).

This is a rhythm game; you make charts, some animations, and probably some "cutscene slides" for the story. I sincerely doubt they're going the FNF route of full on animated cutscenes. And hey, I realize art and coding takes time.

But they've had time.

And anytime I get a notification from their discord it's about them pushing their merch. I used to support their Patreon until I realized that fuck all had been added in like 8 months and if they're this far behind they probably will never finish all the promises they made.

I really like the concept. I really like the art. I want to trust their team, but that trust died over the years its taken them to get past... what do they even have 4 full levels yet? Reminder that they were supposed to be done with Act 2 last year, according to their roadmap. The response to this being pointed out was "yeah that didn't work out lol."

Not to mention the Patreon goals that were reached, and then taken down because people kept asking about them.

I just... people are paying for this. It's one thing if you're a regular pirate bitching about a free product, but the people who put their support behind this project deserve something more than an uncolored level in 8 months.

They need someone to be organizing this because it does not need to take this long. It toes the line between malicious and incompetence. When money is involved, it's a completely different beast. I wouldn't care at all if it hadn't advertised its Patreon goals and given a timeline.

 

[SpiderHole]

Damn, so, after reading all posts I want to simplify everything for people searching a way to autoplay and mod the actual 3.531 version !
1 - Download latest BeatBanger version on main post :

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2 - Download latest bbcum patch :

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3 - Download the Delta Patcher :

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4 - Patch your game using Delta Patcher. (Use READ.me inside "latest bbcum patch" folder if you need help patching)
5 - Enjoy !

 

[SpiderHole]

Oh and, when in game :
1 - Press F2
2 - Type "dev"
3 - Type "autoplay"
Magic, your hands are free !

 

[Arta.umb]

Oh and, when in game :
1 - Press F2
2 - Type "dev"
3 - Type "autoplay"
Magic, your hands are free !

you are goddamn hero thank u dearly

 

[Snowsexxx32]

huh... ok yeah that's... fair, but still kinda shitty how little stuff is being accomplished here

...fuck all had been added in like 8 months and if they're this far behind they probably will never finish all the promises they made.

I really like the concept. I really like the art. I want to trust their team, but that trust died over the years its taken them to get past... what do they even have 4 full levels yet? Reminder that they were supposed to be done with Act 2 last year, according to their roadmap. The response to this being pointed out was "yeah that didn't work out lol."
...

Yeah, with you on most of this, but it does seem like they are doing work.

I am seeing progress on the mod tools being directly integrated. Both being able to download mods directly in the game, being able to edit levels in game, and that mods now convert automatically (mostly). It's still not where the charter tool is currently, but it looks like a good direction and progress. That's all in the past three to six months, and Gale was about a year ago IIRC.

I don't usually pay any attention to roadmaps from small teams, because they're often wildly inaccurate. I can't speak for artists, but I've never met a dev that has a reasonable capacity to estimate their own pace for delivery and account for distractions. It usually takes someone on the outside looking in to let them know that historically they've only been capable of delivering half of what they say they'd like to do in a given period of time.

I'd agree that the content development itself is really lacking, but that's been less of a concern to me given the focus on mod support. Now if only the mod community side of things wasn't taking some hits as well, that's where I've been more discouraged.