Sankhibtowe

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Two procedural things:
1) I'm not sure that the 'X orgasmed 4 times today' thing should work as it does at present, when you only made her orgasm once today and three times previous. It rapidly makes filling out her stats trivial. On the other hand, this sort of stat grinding is something I usually find annoying about these games, so maybe.
2). Partly as a result of 1), having to click 'No Stat Increase' a dozen times each day for each character is *really* annoying. Either one stat increase per day or detect stats at max and ignore.
 

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Meek Games welcome and congrats on your first release. Please follow this link and make a request to claim the dev tag, best of luck and drop a ticket if you need something ! :BootyTime:
F95 should give the tag to devs who really are devs. There are so many devs here who released a 0.01 demo, abandon it after a few months without updating it and you never seen anything new from them. Soon or later we have more devs here than normal users.
 

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Seeing the header image on the Latest Updates page, I kind of expected this to have the futa/Trans tag, since it looks like the girls are standing in front of urinals at first glance....
 
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I totally agree with you, it's not bad to use real porn for a game but the truth is that 90% of the time both the MC and the girls change their color, hairstyle, tattoos and so on from scene to scene, losing all immersion.

Anyway, good luck to the dev, maybe he'll take this into account for his updates.

PS: the plot of the game seems great to me, and although I would have liked to see it in another type of "graphic engine", I hope it is successful.
The design of the game needs an overhaul at some point. I just didn't want the game to be completely text based, and therefore I opted to use some sort of images/gifs here instead for a visual representation.

Is it possible for pregnancy to be part of the game?
Maybe in future updates! I had not thought about it however.

Two procedural things:
1) I'm not sure that the 'X orgasmed 4 times today' thing should work as it does at present, when you only made her orgasm once today and three times previous. It rapidly makes filling out her stats trivial. On the other hand, this sort of stat grinding is something I usually find annoying about these games, so maybe.
2). Partly as a result of 1), having to click 'No Stat Increase' a dozen times each day for each character is *really* annoying. Either one stat increase per day or detect stats at max and ignore.
Thanks a lot for the feedback! This is not intended. Also, detecting the stats at max and ignoring would be a good idea.
 

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(Okay. I'm going to leave my thoughts here. And I apologize as they will seem overall negative, since as you said this is a demo... and I see a lot of things I think would need to be changed to really make this game appealing. I like the base concept, hence why I'm spending time on this, however I see a lot that I believe needs full overall.

One, the version I played was bugged, every previous orgasm was counted for the person, so it all stacked up. I was having to rapid-click through 'no stats up' to get to the end. Not only do I think that feature should be fixed, but that there should be a general rework of 'orgasms to stats', as right now, it feels more like a chore than a reward.

Second, the 'Grope' mechanics come very quickly, and feel very impersonal. I don't get a sense of real agitation, fear, annoyance, anger, building up to obedience or acceptance or even enjoyment. The girls don't speak and there's no real connection, they're just a bunch of gifs right now tied to option choices. Also talk, small-talk, introductions... right now it is all much too impersonal. There's no connection at all.

Personally I think that stat increases should be done through events, not 'groping'. That there should be multiple opportunities to embarrass and humiliate, blackmail, help, assist, care for, and disgrace them. That what kind of 'boss' you're going to be should be done through numerous events, some repeatable, and others tied to story. Because while I see some use for the grope system, it all feels a bit too impersonal for me.

Now mind you, I don't think being able to attempt to grope them at any time is bad. I just think that it should be... more of a reward for having successfully BROUGHT obedience, or relations, or the like. A reflection of the work you've done. Not where you do the work yourself. Similar with sex. I enjoy being able to 'use my women' any time I like in games with slavery and power over women, so being able to grope them at any time? That feels good. But again, right now it's an impersonal stat-build system that I don't think works... good for some cheap thrills, but not really rewarding.

Third, the 'jerk male boss' is very common and I don't find it fun. While it can work, it's just sort of there. Personally, I think that if we're going the misogyny and conquer women route anyways, it'd likely be better if our bosses were women. Gives a thrill for 'conquering' them later.

And that's all that I have right now on this. I'm sorry that it comes across as so negative, and I certainly understand that my thoughts might not be yours or everyone's. I do however find the concepts enjoyable, and wish you the best of luck, however this goes.)
 
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Two procedural things:
1) I'm not sure that the 'X orgasmed 4 times today' thing should work as it does at present, when you only made her orgasm once today and three times previous. It rapidly makes filling out her stats trivial. On the other hand, this sort of stat grinding is something I usually find annoying about these games, so maybe.
2). Partly as a result of 1), having to click 'No Stat Increase' a dozen times each day for each character is *really* annoying. Either one stat increase per day or detect stats at max and ignore.
Yeah, that gets tiresome quickly indeed.

Also, is there some particular action or level required for actual sex or is there' no penetration in the demo?
Because so far i only got groping, fingering & stuff, even though many of girls are already maxed in all stats.

Plus, interacting with Camilla and Tanesha seems to be particularly annoying to grind overall.
 
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Silentdeath8

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Without talking about pregnancy, what most games based with Real Porn lack is Creampie, will wait for some updates before trying it.
 

TFurguson69

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Also you have vaginal sex on the tags and the data directories has ZERO scenes where sexual intercourse actually occurs.
Please remove the tags or provide the content
 

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Normally, I would probably wait for a v0.1 game to develop a little further, but "stat-grinding workplace sexual harassment simulator" is right up my alley, so I wanted to offer some feedback while it's still early.

* You say before the first dialogue choice that people won't know what impact your choice will have, so they just have to use their intuition. Well, that's not really true, because Renpy makes it possible to make a chance and then roll back to try another choice (even if you didn't save your game before the choice, which you can also easily do in Renpy). So if some players are just gonna go for whatever is the best choice anyway, why not validate those players and try to earn their Patreon dollars by doing something like the "walkthrough mods" that a lot of games have (the option to display what effects each choice will have), that's an officially supported part of the game? People can turn it off if they do want to go by intuition, or turn it on if they're the type of player who won't rest until they get the best option for a dialogue choice. I've always felt like a developer should, to the extent that it's practically feasible, let each player have fun their own way. Some developers would be snobbish and disavow the save-scumming, rollbacking players in favor of those who play it the "right" way (which really just means the way the developer personally enjoys most, while being arrogant enough to think there's some objective truth value to their personal preferences). If your goal is to have as broad an audience as possible, then I say welcome those players, and implement the features that modders will probably implement eventually anyway.

* It seems like maybe you're just treating the real-porn as placeholder art, but I would definitely encourage you to get some handmade art for this game sooner or later, if you really want to make a go of it as a business venture and not just something you made for your own enjoyment that you're sharing with people. Keep an eye on the Recruitment & Services forum on this website, for any artists that might be looking to gain some experience working for free. Or maybe set a Patreon goal to hire an artist who could do original art for the game. Either way, you want to get to a point where you can have the possibility of showing the MC actually groping a body with that particular character's face, instead of the generic inserts of random people unrelated to the character you're interacting with. I think people tend to have a certain idea about what type of game it's gonna be when they see real-porn art. I get the sense that you aren't trying to play into those stereotypes (if only because you used Renpy instead of Twine), so steering away from real porn if you can get some free help, or if you have enough subscribers to make hiring someone worthwhile, may be a good way to gain an audience that might be put off by the live-action stuff. I can tell you that if I wasn't playing an early version of this game so I could leave this feedback and hopefully make some impact on the future development of it, I would be pretty instantly turned off by the generic inserts. What's the point of saying "oh, I like how that girl looks, I'm gonna try to make something happen with her," if you don't even get to see her when something happens?

* As someone who enjoys stat-grinding games that start off a little tedious, I wouldn't hate it if completing sales calls wasn't just pressing the "do work" button and getting an automated success in a static amount of time. If you started off kinda bad at it (meaning either some turns doing work didn't result in completed work, or the amount of time it took to do a turn of completed work was longer at first) and then improved as you gained experience, I think I'd find that to provide a nice sense of progression.

* I love Tom Lennon, but that's not exactly the first person I want to see when I'm fantasizing about groping a woman.

* The text tutorial for when you first try to grope a colleague was a bit too much of an infodump for me, I ended up just kinda learning by trial and error. I tend to not retain information if it's thrown at me in text form like that without any practical application. For later versions, you might consider a guided tutorial with a scripted event that walks the player through groping someone and explains the process in smaller, more manageable chunks (interwoven with some kind of sexy situation that illustrates what you're explaining).

* At the end of the tutorial, you say "I will lead you to it." I think you meant "I will leave you to it"?

* I laughed when Christy said, "This is a very serious offense, and I could report this to the police," and then the next thing it said was "You made Julia orgasm 0 times." Not saying you shouldn't present that information (I do really like how transparent this game is with all the stats and stuff), but maybe put text like that in a different color and/or size, so that the player can immediately see that it's just a notification about game stuff, and it doesn't break the immersion.

* It feels a little unrealistic (even from the starting point of a heightened porn fantasy) to do groping actions like spank ass multiple times at once. In the context of workplace sexual harassment, I would imagine spanking like a playful swat as you're walking past someone. Not taking them over your knee and giving a prolonged disciplinary treatment (and if it's not spanking, then you're basically talking about an extended "heavy petting" session). I think it might be better thematically to balance the potential gains of something like that so you don't need to do it as often, and then reduce the number of available actions per round. Or else set it up so that you can only do one action initially, and then later on when they're more warm toward you, it can just be a full-blown makeout session. Because it also doesn't make sense why they would stand around for such prolonged intimate contact (if you don't do stuff that lowers their patience enough for them to run to HR) with someone they just met. "Christy likes boob related stuff" does not explain why she would be okay with a complete stranger touching her boobs. Of course we don't want a game like this to be so realistic that you can't do anything kinky without getting an immediate Game Over, but there should be some basis for suspension of disbelief.

* That being said, I do like the basic framework of having a little trial and error for seeing what kind of stuff they're into. I think it needs some polish as far as believability, but it has some potential.

* I think when you ask if they need help and they don't, that should either not advance the clock or confer the same bonuses as Small Talk.

* Despite that exploit others have mentioned that allowed me to level up the stats so quickly, it doesn't seem like having higher stats does anything at this point.

* Not really sure what the point is of having a small and large hallway. The fewer buttons required to get to a place, the better, in my opinion.

* The fact that gifts don't increase the girls' patience at all is surprising to me.

* Am I correct in my perception that all you can do at this point is give the girls orgasms and not get any yourself?
 
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Now mind you, I don't think being able to attempt to grope them at any time is bad. I just think that it should be... more of a reward for having successfully BROUGHT obedience, or relations, or the like. A reflection of the work you've done. Not where you do the work yourself.
I think it could be a little bit of both. If the early grope is a little more realistic ("oops, I accidentally brushed your skirt with my hand as I was passing you in a narrow walkway"), that can be part of the process that makes them gradually start treating sexual harassment as routine.
 
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I think the same as the others the idea is good but it has many flaws

The images, for example, for simple actions, random gifs are fine as long as you do NOT see the girl's face, it does not make sense to be with the black girl and a gif of the Japanese girl appears

If you are going to do that, use gifs of the actresses themselves. In fact, I hope that when the game progresses and you can do more complex actions with them, you use the actress herself to show the scene, not random gifs on the internet. That is a big mistake that kills many of these games the null consistency of the characters for using totally random images
 
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BigPoppaLoppa

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Android version possibly???
Sorry if I'm being a nuisance but it's the only platform I currently have access to.
 

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Several notable issues:

1. There are tags for anal sex and vaginal sex, but no actual sexual intercourse occurs, but rather fingering. (This has been pointed out by others, but I wanted to as well.)

2. There is a glitch where the number of orgasms a woman has does not reset. A simple fix, though.

3. Certain "Dislikes" can cause certain characters to be near impossible to level. For example, "Groping" makes it a lot harder for lower-level actions to have positive results, and with higher-level actions initially inaccessible, can mean that no positive leveling can occur without the other person running out of patience.

Those are the main issues that come to mind at the moment.
 
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