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Alexy Jade

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I'm not in context, please, could you explain what does defenastrion means?
is other game
понял, спасибо за объяснения :D Просто когда гуглишь термин - там вообще ничего общего. Про выпады из окна и какие-то картинки эпохи ренесанса :D Не выкупил отссылки, так сказать.
It's another game and it has similar art in some scenes but I guess they are different, he or she is also from Russia too. I hope you are successful and I am already waiting for those trap and futa scenes
 

13lokiz

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Can't imagine why that wouldn't work unless renpy decided that the rpyc bytecode hiding in the rpa file was somehow newer than my source was after you parked it so no compilation happened. Also the "notes" as you call them have been called "comments" by devs since the dawn of time. The process of quickly removing code out of a source without permanently erasing their presence is called "commenting out" a section of code. It often happens when a sloppy dev checks in code that won't even compile forcing another dev or the build team to stub it out in order to get something built for testing.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I dunno. Could easily be something I did. Turns out this game wasn’t worth the trouble anyway, at least not yet.

Thanks for the info about comments. I know about as much about programming as I know about plumbing, which is to say more than most, but not nearly enough. Maybe you’ll know though, if I’ve got an rpyc file and unren won’t change it to an rpy, is there a way to read/fix it?
 

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The rpyc file is a compiled version of the rpy source. It's a form that renpy is able to load and execute much faster. Because Renpy is an interpreted language its contents are referred to as bytecode. They are not the same commands as the underlying Intel/AMD or ARM instructions running your desktop/laptop or your phone. OTOH this bytecode is the same for all platforms that run Renpy. Contrast with the obj files that traditional languages like C++ use that actually contain the machine code for the underlying CPU. An ARM obj and an AMD obj produced by the same compilor version are two totally different things.

Enough bloviating then. I don't use unren myself since I'm on Linux and use two different shell tools called unrpa and unrpyc. It's the latter thing that takes .rpyc format and "decompiles" it back to ".rpy" source. Basically the only thing you don't see that the dev has in their original source file are the comments. Those simply show up as empty lines.

I thought unren was essentially a glorified Winders gui slapped on top of Winders builds of these two shell utilities. You must be missing a checkbox somewhere telling unren to also decompile rpyc files as necessary if there's no corresponding source.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I dunno. Could easily be something I did. Turns out this game wasn’t worth the trouble anyway, at least not yet.

Thanks for the info about comments. I know about as much about programming as I know about plumbing, which is to say more than most, but not nearly enough. Maybe you’ll know though, if I’ve got an rpyc file and unren won’t change it to an rpy, is there a way to read/fix it?
 

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Oh wow kinda hyped for this ! Will there be trap on female content too or trap on futa/male only?
 

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Oh wow kinda hyped for this ! Will there be trap on female content too or trap on futa/male only?
A good question; from the dialogue so far* it seems the settings works, roughly, along the lines of males and futanari being considered "masculine" genders while females and femboys are "feminine" genders, with the latter expected to be attracted to the former, and vice versa. So, ironically, that'd make femboy x female pairing similar to how lesbian pairing is viewed in our universe.

*) specifically, when questioned by whatshisname sister's male friend whether MC is attracted to males or futanari, with no option to answer they actually prefer women or other femboys.
 
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While I don't disagree that quite a few people don't understand the nuances it's not just a matter of crossdressing, either. Westerners have trouble with it because there really isn't an analogue for the otoko-no-ko character type in American and Euro cultures.

Basically it doesn't actually matter if a trap character crossdresses or not (the one in My High School RomCom SNAFU for instance never does) because the essence of it is drawn from a crossing two particular lingual associations, not clothing styles. In Japanese kawaii has an unspoken association with girly things while kakkoii is associated with manly things. If an anime girl calls a guy 'kakkoii' she's not -just- saying he's cool, she's implying he's masculine in an attractive way. It'd normally be embarrassing for a boy to be called 'kawaii' because that can also be taken as an insult to say that he comes off as effeminate. The essence of a trap character is a boy who comes off to others as girly-cute and who may even take pride in that without it effecting their gender identity. That's part of why it has no context in the west; the idea of a person who has a girlish presentation but isn't necessarily an effeminate gay man or someone who's literally trying to become a woman is foreign. There wasn't even a word for it until the anime community organically started calling them traps.

This is Russian and from what I've seen their conception is closer to what westerners call sissies: effeminate boys who're taken advantage of sexually and emasculated, usually by older men. That idea literally goes back to Bible days. It's a little known fact that the verse "thou shall not lie with a man as one would with a woman" would be better-translated as "don't fuck the pubescent boy prostitutes, not even if they're dressed up like women, okay?". That's been going on in the Middle East for thousands of years and still happens today, even.
Working from the assumption that masculinity and femininity are contrary, if not diametrically opposed, and categorically distinct, as was natural just a few decades back, even in Japan, if one consulted Mishima as one's measuring stick, one would necessarily come to the conclusion that traps are indeed quite gay, or at the very least, increasingly liable to (there is, of course, the question of intent and the degree of avoidability to the impression, to complicate the question).

If you looked not only at Leviticus, but at Genesis, Corinthians and Romans, you would be left with the impression that there is categorical opposition to same-sex relations.
 
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yea, that's true. but I always just press "back"
Using the mouse wheel is a natural thing to Renpy game players; if it's not available then as you can see most will just presume this option was blocked (as that's something Renpy games can do, too) If you aren't blocking it on purpose then it's probably best to just bring it back.
 

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That was a facepalm on my part not noticing that you were linking my post. I guess this whole thing boils down to muffin kind of thinking ahead about dealing with android controls, but not using platform checks to apply different keymaps yet.

Using the mouse wheel is a natural thing to Renpy game players; if it's not available then as you can see most will just presume this option was blocked (as that's something Renpy games can do, too) If you aren't blocking it on purpose then it's probably best to just bring it back.
 
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