Ren'Py Becoming a Femboy [v0.13.0b] [Dev_muffin]

[ffive]

Guys, sorry to break this to you, but ntr is one type of submission. I don't freak the fuck out when femdom games have a bunch of foot fetish crap even if that's a wacky fetish that does nothing for me because it's pretty obvious it's tied to submission just like ntr.

Sorry to break this back to you but female domination and netorare are separate tags on these forums, so people can get a better idea what flavor(s) of said dominance they're actually getting (or not getting).

 

[HarveyD]

>dev makes silly porn world with new types of people where futa are inherently dominant and femboys are inherently sub
>everyone legitimately furious and hurt that the femboy is too sub to control his girlfriend

Guys, sorry to break this to you, but ntr is one type of submission. I don't freak the fuck out when femdom games have a bunch of foot fetish crap even if that's a wacky fetish that does nothing for me because it's pretty obvious it's tied to submission just like ntr.

I understand why people think submission is about having no control. But you still need consent. When the sub says Stop, shit stops. The sub is the one ultimately in control, they get to decide where their lines are, not get walked all over. That's just an abusive relationship.

 

[ZMulder]

>dev makes silly porn world with new types of people where futa are inherently dominant and femboys are inherently sub
>everyone legitimately furious and hurt that the femboy is too sub to control his girlfriend

Guys, sorry to break this to you, but ntr is one type of submission. I don't freak the fuck out when femdom games have a bunch of foot fetish crap even if that's a wacky fetish that does nothing for me because it's pretty obvious it's tied to submission just like ntr.

For me the problem is not even the NTR (which is a genre I'm a fan of btw). It's the fact that the "girlfriend" gaslights the femboy about his legitimate feelings.

 

[araya17]

Android plss

 

[Lord of Dragon]

is the girlfriend tit job the end of the current content or is there more, there is no way to progress anything after that

 

[HarveyD]

Now that I've actually played the NTR part and the conversation afterwards, it's not actually that bad. Though I was expecting it so maybe that's why. It fits the universe, femboys are bottom-of-the-barrel fuckholes, and presumably fits the relationship dynamic Jannet has before you technically body snatched the version of Austyn that was her bf. It just comes off weird because Austyn has expectations from his old world. Though there are some parts where he seems confused about why he doesn't know things so I don't get how that's supposed to work.

If there wasn't the isekai thing and the story was just set up with Austyn being accepting of his place and then getting to choose a male, futa, or female (with sharing) path then I think it would go down a lot better with everyone.

Also can't believe some of the reviews think that this doesn't have humiliation.

 

[dev_muffin]

I will do the hotfix with compromise descisions. You will date the Jannet anyways, but without a NTR.
But point of NTR in this scene, that its going to develop in to threesomes. Like Femboy-Female-Man.

 

[ZMulder]

I will do the hotfix with compromise descisions. You will date the Jannet anyways, but without a NTR.
But point of NTR in this scene, that its going to develop in to threesomes. Like Femboy-Female-Man.

My biggest problem was the "gaslighting" Jannet did to the MC, so this would be a nice compromise. (maybe I overreacted because I feverishly hate it when you have legitimate concerns and the other person makes it all about themselves)

 

[mide]

i wonder how important jannet is to the plot of the game, because i like trish waaayy more.

 

[Count Morado]

I will do the hotfix with compromise descisions. You will date the Jannet anyways, but without a NTR.
But point of NTR in this scene, that its going to develop in to threesomes. Like Femboy-Female-Man.

If that's what you want to do. However, if that was not your vision - if you give in this quickly to 'criticism' at this stage of development, you might as well quit making the game now. This is nothing in terms of complaints and if you give an inch now, more complaining will come that will take the game from being your vision to being your purgatory. Sooner or later it won't be enjoyable for you, at all.

 

[dev_muffin]

If that's what you want to do. However, if that was not your vision - if you give in this quickly to 'criticism' at this stage of development, you might as well quit making the game now. This is nothing in terms of complaints and if you give an inch now, more complaining will come that will take the game from being your vision to being your purgatory. Sooner or later it won't be enjoyable for you, at all.

Just thinking about that it's not bad to give option to not see this kind of content atleast visually.
Maybe it makes me rethink a bit structure for a scenatio in future, but it's not so drammastic changes.
It doesn't mean, that I going to make alternative scenes for this kind of players I think i'll be ok with it.

 

[dev_muffin]

i wonder how important jannet is to the plot of the game, because i like trish waaayy more.

I trying to make every character important. Like everyone will get their time in a scenario.

 

[Justkoala96]

sooo after titjob from janet what then?

 

[dev_muffin]

sooo after titjob from janet what then?

nothing for now.

 

[sandman9355]

I trying to make every character important. Like everyone will get their time in a scenario.

Problem is, many players don't want to "interact" with every NPC. Like, being a femboy is an identity, not an orientation, so a player might drop a game if they're forced into "interactions" with a gender they don't want to interact with. Sure, it might fit the setting that femboys get pushed into things, but if you limit player choice too much, the game becomes a story with extra clicks required. You can always write your NPCs as budging in-universe norms, so it is okay for an NPC to only want the MC, even if most people prefer triads, because some people do budge norms irl and the MC is just "lucky" to meet those NPCs. But if you simply take choice away from players, those who get pushed into story events they dislike a lot will drop the game.

Plus as has been hinted at by others, safewords exist for a reason and relationships do fall apart due to losing trust in the other person. Many people will not wish to play a character who gets too much abuse and can only do too little to influence their fate. Sure, poly relationships do exist. But they're rare and they fall apart even more often than regular relationships and most people do follow the "once a cheater, always a cheater" mindset. If you *force* the MC to encounter all the kinks in the game, many players will run into one that will push them away. So yes, you should follow your vision for the game. Just accept the fact that if your vision rubs people the wrong way, and if you create even *one* unavoidable situation they'll dislike too much, they will often not stick around to see where your vision leads.

 

[ffive]

But point of NTR in this scene, that its going to develop in to threesomes. Like Femboy-Female-Man.

Just a note, but if Janet is written this way just so there can be threesomes with a man, then it wasn't really necessary for her to be established as character who has been sleeping with men behind the MC's back literally for years -- she could just as well suggest that, since the MC is now "finally" starting to accept his biological role, both of them should start trying out male dicks, maybe preferably together. You'd have the same end effect, but with Janet coming across as a much more sympathetic character. Because right now you have her appear condescending, bossy and dishonest.

Of course, if that's the kind of personality you want Janet to have, then it's no problem.

 

[Zulfiqar]

I will do the hotfix with compromise descisions. You will date the Jannet anyways, but without a NTR.
But point of NTR in this scene, that its going to develop in to threesomes. Like Femboy-Female-Man.

This sounds maybe fine but I really think it would be bad for you to waste your time making content exclusive to a "no ntr pure love route" for Jannet.

I think it is OK to make NTR avoidable but by avoiding it you should simply miss out on some of Jannet's content. Another option that might be easier is if you just gave an option to dump Jannet and tell her off for being an unfaithful, gaslighter (even though the MC is literally servicing other's dicks and basically just as unfaithful and this whole obsession about controlling his girl and being "betrayed" is silly.)

 

[dev_muffin]

It's actually possible to make NTR avoidable and not ruin the scenario at all. They will just.. ok with Jannet's attraction with other men. They will still have intercations, like.. titjob scene. You will have pegging, cuni scenes and other kinky stuff anyways

 

[crystal64]

I get locked at the hospital with the exercice. The exercice doesn't even let me try the mini-game, frame 1, it says I fail and when I try to start again, same thing. Stuck in that loop.

 

[Melmoth99]

I get locked at the hospital with the exercice. The exercice doesn't even let me try the mini-game, frame 1, it says I fail and when I try to start again, same thing. Stuck in that loop.

You should see the skip game option?