Seeking Best games with blackmail/drug use/prostitution?

[DarthSeduction]

I like lechertowns, i don't care whether you, DarthSeduction, like it or not. They doesn't need fixing, they aren't made for you. They aren't broken. They are only broken for your taste to be able to enjoy yourself. The difference is real. Your preference is your own but leave those poor lechertown fans to their on fun by leaving lechertown games well enough alone as they are now. Not all lechertowns are good though, they are just games, they can be done poorly. I for example couldn't stand Devin's Life. Too overdone. But it has its fans, i wish them much fun

Well, guys, aren't the philosophical debate about whether lechertown setup is good or bad a tad bit off-topic? Maybe we cut it short right here?

From a writer's perspective, the entire trope is completely reliant on deus ex machina levels of stupidity. It's lazy. I don't mind any of the action that occurs in such a game, I simply think it should be done much much better. California Bound is an example of this. It's a girl who gets coerced into greater and greater sexual acts by the nature of her choices. The main character in that game isn't stupid, however, she wants to make it on her own, so when she's presented with her choice of sex or homelessness, she chooses sex. That's how a good blackmail should work.

Take Anna's Exciting Affection again. What if, she'd never had the coffee shop, her sister had gotten evicted, and the day she she had to move into a new apartment her boss decided to move on her, telling her that if she wanted to keep her job, she'd have to play by his perverted rules. Now we've got a realistic blackmail scenario. She really needs that job, since she really needs a place to stay. Or, you could go with a "lesser of two evils" approach. The fat greasy boss vs the more attractive partners. If she chooses to do favors for the other partner, they protect her from him.

I'm not saying you can't have a molestation premise, I'm not saying you can't do all the same types of scenes that you see in these games all the time. I'm saying the writing is fucking shit, and could be 100 times better.

 

[Ennoch]

I'm saying the writing is fucking shit, and could be 100 times better.

Oh, i know that alright, all too well! But which genre isn't plagued by poor writing I'm always saying that porn-logic is enough and i never expect and academy-award winning plot/screenplay but so many devs totally ignore that part.. i know that alright.

 

[DarthSeduction]

Oh, i know that alright, all too well! But which genre isn't plagued by poor writing

Depraved Awakening, though it's not in this genre, is a game with excellent writing.

California Bound, which I mentioned is not great as far as all the writing goes, there is still some level of disbelief, but its a lot better than the other games in this genre.

Zoe's Temptations, which doesn't go nearly as far as this, also has a lot of coerced sexual encounters in it, though Zoe is more proactive, choosing to take those actions to reach her goals.

But yes, in this particular genre, it's plagued by deus ex machina levels of plot convenience. I have 3 other projects going on now, but I am seriously thinking of making a blackmail based game in the future just to prove a point that it could be done so much better.

 

[DarthSeduction]

Depraved Awakening, though it's not in this genre, is a game with excellent writing.

California Bound, which I mentioned is not great as far as all the writing goes, there is still some level of disbelief, but its a lot better than the other games in this genre.

Zoe's Temptations, which doesn't go nearly as far as this, also has a lot of coerced sexual encounters in it, though Zoe is more proactive, choosing to take those actions to reach her goals.

But yes, in this particular genre, it's plagued by deus ex machina levels of plot convenience. I have 3 other projects going on now, but I am seriously thinking of making a blackmail based game in the future just to prove a point that it could be done so much better.

sorry for the double post, I'm not sure where the game is at this point, but there's a 2D game out there called lyla's curse, last updated in february, that also falls into the category of seemingly well done writing in this category... it's a little too early to call it, but the way it's shaping up is gonna be interesting to say the least. That said, it's early enough that it could go more Kingdom of Deception than California Bound.

 

[Ennoch]

I have 3 other projects going on now, but I am seriously thinking of making a blackmail based game in the future just to prove a point that it could be done so much better.

It can be done! Ironically your words are what exactly proves my statement. But it was never doubted, i'm just saying That you actually considering to make one only to prove it can be done.. shows that there is a sea of them done poorly. And this we all know.

Yes, i do love DA. I don't even heard of California Bound. Zoe's Temptations is done in a more believable way as she is "guided". But unfortunately, Depraved Awakening isn't a genre, just like you told so, its just a single game and i referred to the whole trope and in a broader extent to the corruption theme.

Good corruption games are hard to come by. Not simply because of the plot quality really. Its that the corruption part is something very subjective. Like domination. What counts as domination to some, may be genuinely offending to others who are in turn consider themselves dominants as well.

The problem with blackmail that its used as a magical everything-explained-with-one-stroke wand. I hate that. Corruption should be much more psychological and prolonged, the whole point of it should be the change itself so skipping that with blackmail is killing the purpose.
Talking stricktly about blackmail though: I feel that the victims in these games, just like you described earlier, show way too little resistance. Go with it too easily. The blackmail often isn't that substential to give into it. It makes no sense. But in a lechertown setup its just a quick mean to an end. You know, the bare minimum effort to make it seem like reasonable to get fucked by everyone. Lechertown setups do work regardless because this part isn't their main objective. Could be done much better? Yes. But to be honest, i wouldn't consider such game a lechertown setup at all.

Kingdom of Deception is an interesting one, it ends up more complex than one thinks it would be at first glance I like that, but mostly i like it because the Dev seem to have this oral fixation and blowjobs are dominant in Noxian night as well as in KoD. Exactly my cup of tea:closedtongue:

But i do miss a proper corruption game with all the necessary mindgames, where the assailant uses clever lies, promises, confusing attitude (like being genuinely caring at times) to corrupt the mind of the victim girl.

 

[DarthSeduction]

It can be done! Ironically your words are what exactly proves my statement. But it was never doubted, i'm just saying That you actually considering to make one only to prove it can be done.. shows that there is a sea of them done poorly. And this we all know.

Yes, i do love DA. I don't even heard of California Bound. Zoe's Temptations is done in a more believable way as she is "guided". But unfortunately, Depraved Awakening isn't a genre, just like you told so, its just a single game and i referred to the whole trope and in a broader extent to the corruption theme.

Good corruption games are hard to come by. Not simply because of the plot quality really. Its that the corruption part is something very subjective. Like domination. What counts as domination to some, may be genuinely offending to others who are in turn consider themselves dominants as well.

The problem with blackmail that its used as a magical everything-explained-with-one-stroke wand. I hate that. Corruption should be much more psychological and prolonged, the whole point of it should be the change itself so skipping that with blackmail is killing the purpose.
Talking stricktly about blackmail though: I feel that the victims in these games, just like you described earlier, show way too little resistance. Go with it too easily. The blackmail often isn't that substential to give into it. It makes no sense. But in a lechertown setup its just a quick mean to an end. You know, the bare minimum effort to make it seem like reasonable to get fucked by everyone. Lechertown setups do work regardless because this part isn't their main objective. Could be done much better? Yes. But to be honest, i wouldn't consider such game a lechertown setup at all.

Kingdom of Deception is an interesting one, it ends up more complex than one thinks it would be at first glance I like that, but mostly i like it because the Dev seem to have this oral fixation and blowjobs are dominant in Noxian night as well as in KoD. Exactly my cup of tea:closedtongue:

But i do miss a proper corruption game with all the necessary mindgames, where the assailant uses clever lies, promises, confusing attitude (like being genuinely caring at times) to corrupt the mind of the victim girl.

I think there's one major difference between what I'd write and your major Retard in Lechertown. That difference is that the MC wouldn't be a retard anymore, unless I made her a fish out of water alien, robot, genetically engineered superhuman woman, etc. The elements of such a game that make the town full of rapists, from the men, to the gay or bi women, on down to the dogs, would still be there. There are common tropes inside of Lechertown games I might get rid of, like the Rape Alley, where it's acceptable to believe that once, while drunk or running really late your character might go through, isn't really acceptable a second time unless she's corrupt. The other thing, is that I don't consider this type of game Corruption. Good Girl Gone Bad, Chloe18, California Bound (maybe), Kingdom of Deception, these games are corruption, because the MC chooses to compromise her initial moral standards in order to accomplish her goals. RiL games however feature a girl being coerced into her sexual decisions at every turn.

As you later said, she's dominated, and since the domination happens without consent, she's not compromising her morality, she's simply surviving. The best example of this in an RiL game, almost hilariously, is Katies Corruption, in which if you play it straight, as if you were the girl the game implies you are, then you finish the game and go back to your quiet life. You're not changed sexually at all by the experience, and you're still satisfied by your cuck of a boyfriend. That's how a real life blackmail scenario is usually gonna end. Again, there's no problem with a coercion domination game, I simply think it's not right to call it corruption, simply because it's so different. Corruption requires consent.

 

[Ennoch]

Spoiler: Too long, only bother if you are called DarthSeduction, the poor thing will read this probably how i got carried away with my thoughts

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[DarthSeduction]

Spoiler: More off topic discussion on the nature of corruption.

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[Firebless]

It's a tough balance to find between your 3 points there, Darth. We do play these games for sex, yes. However I still seek realistic blackmail scenarios that lead to sexual acts.. The blackmail scenarios in a game like, Katie's Corruption, are super basic. Here's a med student girl, hard up for cash, with a partner she's going to be marrying. But she's obviously educated and she's presented with a situation that is so far fetched (her boss cums on her when she's not looking, takes a pic, and threatens to show her husband) I lost immersion instantly. And to get ANY really good sexual content, you basically have to be a whore in heat from day 1. Otherwise you'll get the boring "purity" ending. I am yet to get most of the best scenes in the game because whenever I try to play it 'realistically' and stretch out my corruption time to a more common sense level, I've blocked myself off of seeing certain content. So I have to go in with tits and pussy blazing, and slut it out from the get go. It's super unsatisfying.

Corruption is an easy direction to take in making a female MC game, but it's a very hard one to get right. A game like California Bound (thanks again for the suggestion) has a seriously high potential for getting this right, as long as the writing is there. It's started off pretty strong so far, and as long as the situation for the MC becomes very, very dire, it could finally be a game that gets it right. Only time will tell, though.

You might want to try the Blackmail Katie's Corruption Mod made by Osmcuser132

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In this one you dont miss any of the sexual content related to the blackmail path in game.

I think that we will need to learn to use RENPY and rewrite the stories like Osmcuser does. He doesnt change much, just minor fixes. Im thinking of some mayor overhauls to make the story more realistic.

 

[Ennoch]

In this one you dont miss any of the sexual content related to the blackmail path in game.

I wasn't even aware that i can miss stuff on the blackmail route but thats probably because i never bothered with it? I went for the give-in-fully path! I have little faith in Devs to be able to pull through the subtle changes, mostly when i see such paths it translates like this in my head "badgirl=lewd scenes path", "goodgirl=fakechoicepath with no lewds", "something in between=fall flat between the previous two path". So i always go for the corruption path.
The mere fact that such a patch exists (unlock otherwise locked content on that path) serves as proof of my concerns in my eyes. But i wasn't aware of such mod, Osmcuser did it again then . I wouldn't be playing Anna's exciting affection without his ren'py conversion. I will give it a try for sure.

What you guys think of this game:
newlife:

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Interesting. Have you noticed that all Lechertown setup is "****'s Life?"
I do like lechertown setups like i said earlier so i'm gonna check it. Text-based games require tons of writing, i always have my doubts them but i'm gonna check this out.

 

[Firebless]

Played this game yesterday and im still thinking about it despite its flaws, it did something good for me:

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Hits most of the kinks for this list like blackmail and prostitution, although those are at a very early stage so far. It has beautiful art, with some of the most evil rpgm mechanics, but the slow build up of the story digs deep and makes up big time for its flaws. What surprised me was that the lack of choices, as of yet, actually helped the experience. Didnt miss the choices at all as what happened would have been what i would have clicked anyways. That saved me the feel that i was forcing the story which would have detracted from the immersion. Its very good but at an early stage the developer still making fixes to make the game run smoother.

 

[ilovenudemods]

Giving this thread a bump...still looking for new prostitution, blackmail, and/or corruption games to play!!

 

[Firebless]

Giving this thread a bump...still looking for new prostitution, blackmail, and/or corruption games to play!!

Yep me too lol. Specially since Fashion Business Monica got revamped in a case of one step forward 3 steps back. For the better. Same thing with California Bound and Claire's Quest. We get better more promising gameplay and graphics but the story gets sent back content-wise.

 

[fzdudesome]

I would also love to find some games in this vein! Caliross is pretty good, as is Noxian Nights.

 

[ilovenudemods]

Bringing this badboy back from the dead. Keep dumping your corruption titles in here. Recently played this gem. Tons of content, really enjoyable time with some great blackmail, corruption, and exhibition. Even some drinking and weed, which I hope evolves into harder drugs as time goes on. Easily 6 hours of content as of now. See my review for more info:

https://f95zone.to/threads/project-sage-act-1-v0-17fix-paperwork.9895/

 

[PeggyBlackett]

Corrupting the Intern?

 

[fzdudesome]

Isn't that one abandoned?

 

[fzdudesome]

Found

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for Girl Life which is pretty great, active developer who stays involved in the thread and answers questions.

 

[coolname22]

Bubblegum Sunday is an upcoming corruption based game which I really like even though its still in its early stages

 

[Taxeiraki]

This thread is exactly what I was looking for!!!

Any new game advice in the genre? I'm totally into blackmail and drug addiction :3