VN Ren'Py Big Brother Erotic Novel [Remastered P3] [Krugger]

[tarshack]

not sure motH maybe couldnt handle all the negative feed back about being yet another BB spin off novel, sounds like a temper tantrum of sorts, it would be great if picked up where the original left off and continued but no one as yet has the ingenuity to pick up the story line and blend into it to carry it out to the end and finish where it left off now that would be of interest to a huge crowd

 

[MotH_like25]

I can't... I can't even say anything about that. All i can say is... Why? Why can't people just leave it alone after its failed that many times? Like what's the point? Honestly as i sit here seeing this game after so many copies of it, I can here "We're not gonna take it" by Twisted Sister. Like really, how many more attempts is gonna take for ppl to realize this game was never meant to exist?

I can only add that the more references each person has, the more previously beloved characters are constantly being replicated and created from the perspective of every other player (over 12 years of BB). If other games like Milfy City or Timestamps: Unconditional Love (the first version of the game) were remade in current resolutions and added new storylines to the older ones, there would certainly be something to play, along with new games. As it is, we can only return to them over and over again, reliving these stories and plots with character arcs. Best regards, ProjectPharaoh.

 

[Daveiy]

I can't... I can't even say anything about that. All i can say is... Why? Why can't people just leave it alone after its failed that many times? Like what's the point? Honestly as i sit here seeing this game after so many copies of it, I can here "We're not gonna take it" by Twisted Sister. Like really, how many more attempts is gonna take for ppl to realize this game was never meant to exist?

why can't people like you who dont like the work of others just shut up and ignore it?? no one forced you to play the game support him or even open this thread. instead you and all the other "oh god not another one" - lemmings force people to surrender on their dreams. who cares how many copies of a game exists???!!! let the people do the work they enjoy goddamn!!

 

[ProjectPharaoh]

why can't people like you who dont like the work of others just shut up and ignore it?? no one forced you to play the game support him or even open this thread. instead you and all the other "oh god not another one" - lemmings force people to surrender on their dreams. who cares how many copies of a game exists???!!! let the people do the work they enjoy goddamn!!

Ok i'mma say one thing...well a couple things. First, do NOT sit there and talk to me about dreams, ok? I'm 32 years old and from the time i could walk i have been told i aint shit and wont amount to anything. I was a victim of bullying, i had been held at gun point by gangsters when i was very young and beaten nearly to death many times and told that i'm a plague to the world, but guess what? I'm still going strong! Even after being criticized! Making a fan-based visual novel of a visual novel that failed many times, is not a dream. It's a hobby. I don't like to be compared to others cause yes, i judged this game being made not cause i'm being an ass, but because the fact many ppl have tried to recreate this game and failed so forgive me for not having high hopes of this games success. That's business, and business is brutal and if you didn't know that, then idkwtf to tell you.

Secondly, do not cuss at me or others because you're having a tantrum. That makes you look bad and make ppl have no respect for you. I am a game developer myself and when i critic something, yes i am harsh sometimes, but i'm not doing anything to crush people's "dreams" as you say. so my advice is this: If you don't like me or others being honest about what we think, then stop reading the forum and mind your own business. Not everyone is gonna have nice things to say, that is life so get over it! As a developer you have to learn to overcome these obstacles otherwise, you might as well quit. Thank you for your time.

 

[Daveiy]

Ok i'mma say one thing...well a couple things. First, do NOT sit there and talk to me about dreams, ok? I'm 32 years old and from the time i could walk i have been told i aint shit and wont amount to anything. I was a victim of bullying, i had been held at gun point by gangsters when i was very young and beaten nearly to death many times and told that i'm a plague to the world, but guess what? I'm still going strong! Even after being criticized! Making a fan-based visual novel of a visual novel that failed many times, is not a dream. It's a hobby. I don't like to be compared to others cause yes, i judged this game being made not cause i'm being an ass, but because the fact many ppl have tried to recreate this game and failed so forgive me for not having high hopes of this games success. That's business, and business is brutal and if you didn't know that, then idkwtf to tell you.

Secondly, do not cuss at me or others because you're having a tantrum. That makes you look bad and make ppl have no respect for you. I am a game developer myself and when i critic something, yes i am harsh sometimes, but i'm not doing anything to crush people's "dreams" as you say. so my advice is this: If you don't like me or others being honest about what we think, then stop reading the forum and mind your own business. Not everyone is gonna have nice things to say, that is life so get over it! As a developer you have to learn to overcome these obstacles otherwise, you might as well quit. Thank you for your time.

1st thing: great to hear you can overcome your horrendous past.

2nd thing. dont compare others with you. every one has a different character and mindset. not everyy good footballer/soccerplayer or good driver is as good as ronaldo or drives as good as verstappen. i agree that you have to overcome certain things but bullying someone to the point he loose interest in it cause he cant make any money thanks to haters is another thing.

 

[ProjectPharaoh]

Not here to argue. Do and say what you want, i honestly dont care to argue. I made an opinion just like everyone cause i'm free to do so. If you don't like it then too bad, get over it cause there is worse me or anyone else can possibly say. I'm not even dissing Krugger as a developer anyway, just dissing the game cause of how many people keep bringing this game back instead of making original content. Anyway I said my piece so time to move on

 

[MotH_like25]

Not here to argue. Do and say what you want, i honestly dont care to argue. I made an opinion just like everyone cause i'm free to do so. If you don't like it then too bad, get over it cause there is worse me or anyone else can possibly say. I'm not even dissing Krugger as a developer anyway, just dissing the game cause of how many people keep bringing this game back instead of making original content. Anyway I said my piece so time to move on

Hello ProjectPharaoh
Game Developer. I can also relate to this as someone (the same age as the creator of Pharaoh) who specializes in games, as others have described above. Everyone could continue creating their own content, regardless of how many copies there were or how often the name "Big Brother" was mentioned, but now each installment would be presented from their own perspective, with the proverbial Max interacting with Ann, Lisa, Alice, and Kira, followed by Oliva, and then other women/girls, to best illustrate how life might unfold through the eyes of any other creator. If I were knowledgeable about creating something myself (and it's clear that this requires not only time but also financial investment), I could start something even as a beginner, even if it were game translations, so that someone could implement the "Polish language" so lacking in many of my favorite games. There are, of course, some paths somewhere that could either be in the next few years or even farther in the future. It's good that we currently have so many attempts at this game, by each of the creators. At least we know they're endless, but the fantasy of playing them is still there and the experience of seeing the content well put together (I can only speak of Dark Silver's game, Glamour, I think). For version 0.57, it had a lot of development in the character of Kate, and then the additional role of Max (who is missing for this version), many storylines from Kate's episodes where these two characters appear. But I think I can conclude by admitting to everyone that despite all these years, this game has had many copies, and I don't think I've encountered any others I've mentioned before, like Milfy City or others similar to it, with in-game storylines and dialogue. That's about as much as I could address, because anything more I could add would only be to respond later to the pros and cons of others. Best regards. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 2026

 

[Daveiy]

Before you start criticizing someone, tryna learn more about the person. I accept criticism, but I don't accept attacks.
You come here, talk a bunch of nonsense, talk about your sad story, and think that you're the only one who's ever had problems in life, right? Or do you think I'm just another one who tried to take money from 'fans' like you imagine, right?

In 2 years on Patreon, I earned a total of 500 dollars, while there are people who earned more than that in 2 months, and some who started from the beginning earned 1000, 2000... euros! I've been through many difficulties that you can't even imagine, but for you, it's easy to criticize someone, isn't it? Only here, I am hated for having been as honest as possible, and I even had my ideas stolen by the games BB Another Story and even this BB Ultimate, where these devs have connections with the audience. Look at the number of people who are directing hatred towards me and see the amount of 'hate' they're directing at the BB Ultimate dev. But you're probably not understanding anything I'm saying, right? Lemme explain.

To be more specific, there are 20 pages where I posted the renders, talked about my project, and also helped a lot with finding assets. At no point did I ask for Dufs or anything like that, remember this.
Fan Art - Glamour: Fan Art & Asset Thread | F95zone | Adult Games | Comics | Mods | Cheats

It's not only there that my things are; since the time of 'Glamour,' I used to post about the game and also always tried to share my ideas so that maybe the developer (Dark Silver) could do something. I started my project around 2022 when I was looking to make a VN game (that's because there were people who would at least like to see a BB in VN mode) I could have worked in a sandbox, but there was already another BB in the sandbox, which in this case belonged to Aleksey, so keep that in mind. In 2023, I started rendering with my old computer, a 3rd generation Intel i5, with a GTX 750Ti, which was useless, and 8GB of DDR3 1033MHz RAM. You can see the qualities of my render in this. I hardly ever posted my renders on BB Fan Art, just a few times, you can check if you want.

Since then, Aleksey and his team were always looking at my work and trying to somehow copy it.
When I was making my small scripts, I did everything improvised, I would grab images, make a script on the spot, very quickly, so much so that the English is pretty bad, I would make a script in a second, and by the way, nothing was taken from Dark Silver, neither the script nor the plot.
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I did this, if I'm not mistaken, before June, it was in 2022. In that same year, in the BBAS update by Aleksey, his last update, if I remember correctly it was from October to November, version 0.0.9.3, he does this.
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What does this look like to you, coincidence? I had stopped writing the small scripts, then the great Aleksey said that he didn't like your story and that he was going to quit the game, something like that. I already suspected this Aleksey, so much so that I stopped following his game at the time. He did exactly everything Dark Silver did, and think about it, Dark Silver had started the Glamour, right? Kate's story, suddenly, her fans ask to do Max's story, and then, coincidence.

When I started designing my game, I was always sharing my ideas, as you can see in my last plot, I had written 'chapter', Aleksey and his team decided to make their 'new' game in chapters. But it's okay. At the time, I started, so much so that it is written, that I was going to make my game in seasons, except I said 'act'. I was still planning things. I was also thinking about including the glamour game, but I had said that I would only start my project if Dark Silver abandoned or finished theirs, because I was going to start mine but a little slowly since I had a bad computer where I couldn't use Iray, and I had this lighting problem in 2024, my first game made with my renders, you can notice that.

These guys, like I said, started watching me, so everything I did, they tried to do ''better,'' you know? My problem was that I shared too much with the public, I shared a lot of my ideas, I tried my best to be transparent with my audience, to be sincere and honest, you know? But that ended up screwing me over, big time!

I didn’t want to have published my game here, but I was forced to. I’ve completely given up on being here on F95zone, seriously, do you know why? People here hate me, they hate me for their own reasons, even the moderators here don’t like me, and I’m gonna explain. When I launched my game, I had made about 40 emotes, then Aleksey tried to do the same, but when I published mine here, he quickly backed down and made emotes of a character with wet hair, coincidence?
When I added a delete save button to my game, I believe they did it too. In September, I released a small script content that had sexual scenes, so I added an initial warning, and they added it too. And finally, I talked on my Patreon about why I don't include music in my game. Do you know what they did? They made an update that created a folder for players to put their own music in so they could listen to it in the game. But it's all a coincidence, because they have been developing their game for over 5 years, and I for a year and a half, because I had several problems, had to start over, and so on, but for them (their fans) it's a coincidence.

If you played my prototype, which I had made, they even copied some things. They are like that, they take advantage, they don't know how to develop the story of their game, and they have to watch the work of others.

If you look at my project, you won't see anything related in the scripts from Aleksey and Dark Silver, but they're the ones who are always watching, observing me, and even copying whatever they think is best — what can I do? Imagine having two BB games, exactly the same, you know? I’ve always aimed to do things differently, even though they tried several times to find out what I was doing. Yesterday their team was complaining about the script, today they’re not complaining anymore, isn’t that strange? I'm not here saying that they're stealing all my work, that's not it, but they always try to find out what the other person is doing so they can do it first and try to do it better. They spent 3 years lying to their audience because they wanted to see what my Kate would be like in the game, since Dark Silver didn’t develop the character. I’m not talking about Katya (Glamour).

You must be wondering why so many people hate me?
I didn't share anything with them. When I was at Glamour Fan Art, I didn't fully realize that Aleksey's team was watching me. If I had known for sure, I would have stopped; I found out at the end of the year. So much so that one of their members came to ask me for duffs, I didn't notice, I felt something inside me, something was wrong, and in the end, I was right, the guy was gonna pass everything to his 'master' so that later everyone would call him a 'genius' like they had all this time.
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This guy has been working for Aleksey from the beginning, he tried back then to get in touch with Dark Silver and was rejected. These guys hate me, honestly, I was just doing my job.

As you can see in my work, everything is different. But think about it with me, how can I work knowing that these guys, along with that one, BB Ultimate, are coming to my page with multiple fake accounts, created in 2024 and 2025? I had to block several accounts because there were, or still are, people who support Aleksey by giving him information. Dude, at some point, I knew something was wrong, I set up some traps and they fell for them. It's complicated, because I—you can see my work there—I am tired of trying to prove myself, people always thought I was crazy, but it's hard. At no point did I try to do things the same way, you know? Like, I could have made my game in sandbox, look at that BB Ultimate, why do you think the game is loved, because the game is good? Seriously dude, PGN, who was making BB Remake, had to abandon his game, unless PGN is the developer of BB Ultimate. You see that these guys are connected to each other, I have no connection with anyone, I did everything by myself, without having to copy ANYTHING from anyone, unfortunately I had to publish my game here, and I was attacked in many ways. 24 pages of pure hate and attacks, people like you who criticize me without knowing my work, without knowing my effort, without knowing my struggles.

I didn't make 1000 dollars or euros a month, I was making back then 22 dollars, then 30, then 37, 44, 55, 72 which was the last one, and even so I didn't complain, man. People think I'm rich, no, I'm not, I'm a pretty messed up person. I used to believe that with the work I was doing, in the future the fruits would be reaped, you know? I had greed like some people do, I really cared about my game, went through hardships, I have health problems that got much worse, and even so, people kept kicking me like I was a dead horse, you know? I made about 12 pauses on my Patreon, not counting the refunds I gave, so, you see, how much people hate me, they hate me because those guys from Aleksey do this, because they prefer their developer, who spent more than 5 years without knowing how to develop a story, so they have to keep looking at other people's work, and they’ve already told me this and I also know it, just like they sent this to me.
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Someone told me that he would look at that every day, he even tries to copy that, man. When I went to check, it’s an artist who does animation work, even in that?

I don't care about these people, the problem is that these people go to my page, pay any amount, look at my content, pass it on to this Aleksey, and that's it. I'm not telling you that he's copying everything I do, no, I'm saying that he takes one thing here and there, you know? I made my own version of a VN game, to be different, where everyone follows their own path, you know? So much so that I left this place, I heard that these guys were talking to the moderators and everyone else, saying that I was causing trouble. Man, I just tried to find people who were BB fans. Honestly, I was sad, because most of the people I see have never played the original games, you know?

I had to stop, I gave up. Because I just can't do it anymore, going through hardships, and the guy over there is playing his game for money, fine, but I wasn't playing my game for money, because if I were, I would be telling a lot of lies just to attract fans, like, for example, telling Eric's fan that I would put Eric in my game, you know?

Here, everyone hates me because they think I am accusing someone 'successful' and being 'jealous' of that person. I just wanted to do my job, but do you think that's right? I wasn't 'popular,' no one knew I was already creating, no one knew about my works, so they could very well, in various places, say that things were from Aleksey's work to attract more fans, you know? See if you can find any publicity about me, you won't.

Unfortunately in this life, we try to be honest with people, but life sadly punishes us for it. Ask yourself, how many honest people do well compared to dishonest ones. So go ahead and keep criticizing me, it's easy. It's easy to talk about someone's life without knowing about their life.

i dont know what to say. i was critizing some of the characters wearing to much makeup (imho), because i dont like it in real life also not and in other games aswell when the already beautiful looking characters try to look nice for a date etc.
but i didnt expect that outcome. its really sad to read this. hope you can overcome this and start new with a different game/project with different beautiful looking characters. you got damn good talent!
wish you the best whatever you will doing even if you quit completely.