Mod Unity Onhold Big Brother: Lisa's Photo-Session & More [v0.23] [lazyharry]

[rattler2027]

Is there anyway of getting just the photo shoot without the other mods?

I just didn't care for some of those other added scenes.

Thanks

 

[midx]

i dont go forward at new job opportunity. i made 2nd video with alice and i talked kira about her leaving from moms bed . what must i do now ? i visit moms bed at nights but i can get only sleep option

 

[maksblack1000]

C28. Lisa skips school - NEW ℗
C29. Olivia skips school - NEW ℗

where i can get images from this parts?

 

[Vikar73]

I'm trying to write a simple visual editor app, and seems like there are some missed images:

Broken picture link 'lisa-sleep-naked-1'
...in entry '08.dl.0' (file Mod.txt, line 3941)
Broken picture link 'z-door-bathroom'
...in entry '09.ha.16a' (file momtalk.txt, line 257)
Broken picture link 'mm-excersise-2'
...in entry '09.hd.0' (file momtalk.txt, line 339)
Broken picture link 'mm-excersise-3'
...in entry '09.hd.2' (file momtalk.txt, line 343)
Broken picture link 'mm-excersise-4'
...in entry '09.hd.4' (file momtalk.txt, line 347)
Broken picture link 'mm-excersise-5'
...in entry '09.hd.5' (file momtalk.txt, line 349)
Broken picture link 'mm-excersise-6'
...in entry '09.hd.6' (file momtalk.txt, line 351)
Broken picture link 'mm-excersise-7'
...in entry '09.hd.7' (file momtalk.txt, line 353)
Broken picture link 'z-door-night'
...in entry '12.ea.0' (file 12.txt, line 2817)
Broken picture link 'e-alisa-sit'
...in entry 'cheatmenu.galin.alisa.flags.alisa.drunk' (file Mod.txt, line 1021)
...in entry 'cheatmenu.galin.alisa.flags.nopants.alisa' (file Mod.txt, line 1026)
Broken picture link 'shopping-lisa-casual-peek-fail'
...in entry 'shopping.lisa.casual.peek.no.2' (file Mod.txt, line 4281)
Broken picture link 'shopping-lisa-dress-peek-fail'
...in entry 'shopping.lisa.dress.peek.no.2' (file Mod.txt, line 4374)
...in entry 'shopping.lisa.gym.peek.no.2' (file Mod.txt, line 4461)

I've checked at least cheatmenu.galin.alisa.flags.alisa.drunk and cheatmenu.galin.alisa.flags.nopants.alisa - there are really no pictures in game.

 

[Vikar73]

Also there are couple of what seemed to be typos and/or loose ends:

Broken goto link '09.gk.0'
...in entry '09.eh.0' (file 09.txt, line 2440)
Broken goto link 'cheatmenu.galin.girls all'
...in entry 'cheatmenu.galin.girls' (file Mod.txt, line 574)
Broken goto link 'cheatmenu.kira'
...in entry 'cheatmenu.galin.kira' (file Mod.txt, line 1034)
Broken goto link 'ean.galin.8.no'
...in entry 'ean.galin.8.ok.ok.5' (file Mod.txt, line 371)

And, BTW - thanx a lot for this mod, it's an excellent work, really cool!

 

[lazyharry]

i dont go forward at new job opportunity. i made 2nd video with alice and i talked kira about her leaving from moms bed . what must i do now ? i visit moms bed at nights but i can get only sleep option

You're talking about basic BB game, not about any scenes of my mod, so please ask

You must be registered to see the links

 

[User_51567]

So..
What's the difference between this one and The Chancer mod..
Last time i played it was 0.12 and want to play this game again but with all(or at least as many)mods possible.
Are there mods included in Changer that are not in this one (or the other way around). (Like the seduction mod)

Which one should i download, which on has more mods and is "better".
(And i like the mods to progress as naturel as possible with the story if that makes a difference.)

@lazyharry

 

[lazyharry]

C28. Lisa skips school - NEW ℗
C29. Olivia skips school - NEW ℗

where i can get images from this parts?

You're right, some images are missing. Here are the Lisa skips school images, all of oliviapart (C29) are in basic game

You must be registered to see the links

 

[lazyharry]

I'm trying to write a simple visual editor app, and seems like there are some missed images:

Broken picture link 'lisa-sleep-naked-1'
...in entry '08.dl.0' (file Mod.txt, line 3941)
Broken picture link 'z-door-bathroom'
...in entry '09.ha.16a' (file momtalk.txt, line 257)
Broken picture link 'mm-excersise-2'
...in entry '09.hd.0' (file momtalk.txt, line 339)
Broken picture link 'mm-excersise-3'
...in entry '09.hd.2' (file momtalk.txt, line 343)
Broken picture link 'mm-excersise-4'
...in entry '09.hd.4' (file momtalk.txt, line 347)
Broken picture link 'mm-excersise-5'
...in entry '09.hd.5' (file momtalk.txt, line 349)
Broken picture link 'mm-excersise-6'
...in entry '09.hd.6' (file momtalk.txt, line 351)
Broken picture link 'mm-excersise-7'
...in entry '09.hd.7' (file momtalk.txt, line 353)
Broken picture link 'z-door-night'
...in entry '12.ea.0' (file 12.txt, line 2817)
Broken picture link 'e-alisa-sit'
...in entry 'cheatmenu.galin.alisa.flags.alisa.drunk' (file Mod.txt, line 1021)
...in entry 'cheatmenu.galin.alisa.flags.nopants.alisa' (file Mod.txt, line 1026)
Broken picture link 'shopping-lisa-casual-peek-fail'
...in entry 'shopping.lisa.casual.peek.no.2' (file Mod.txt, line 4281)
Broken picture link 'shopping-lisa-dress-peek-fail'
...in entry 'shopping.lisa.dress.peek.no.2' (file Mod.txt, line 4374)
...in entry 'shopping.lisa.gym.peek.no.2' (file Mod.txt, line 4461)

I've checked at least cheatmenu.galin.alisa.flags.alisa.drunk and cheatmenu.galin.alisa.flags.nopants.alisa - there are really no pictures in game.

Also there are couple of what seemed to be typos and/or loose ends:

Broken goto link '09.gk.0'
...in entry '09.eh.0' (file 09.txt, line 2440)
Broken goto link 'cheatmenu.galin.girls all'
...in entry 'cheatmenu.galin.girls' (file Mod.txt, line 574)
Broken goto link 'cheatmenu.kira'
...in entry 'cheatmenu.galin.kira' (file Mod.txt, line 1034)
Broken goto link 'ean.galin.8.no'
...in entry 'ean.galin.8.ok.ok.5' (file Mod.txt, line 371)

And, BTW - thanx a lot for this mod, it's an excellent work, really cool!

Uhh, what a list, so let's start:
1. lisa-sleep-naked-1 - this is from diamond-mod, have checked his last update, image is missing, so I've deleted this 2 lines
2. z-door-bathroom and z-door-night - the link is not broken-both scenes work (no white screen)-although there is no image in Image-folder.
3. mm-excersise2 and following, yes they are missing, please dl enclosed link
4. The errors in Galin cheat menu: e-alisa-sit, it's not part of the BB game and not in Galins mod, so I've changed it to the other image he's using for alice
Second part:
1. link 09.gk.0 - My mistake, is already preparation for next mod update
2. cheatmenu.galin.girls all - my mistake, line is deleted
3. cheatmenu.galin.kira - that's not broken, it only works if variable kira.talk=9. If you dont have this value you have to set it Flags to 9, than you'll have in the cheatmenu: Repeat 2nd Photoshoot
4. ean.galin.8.no, yes that link didn't work. But all these things in Galins Cheat menu(exception nr 2) is not my work, I'll contact Galin and ask him. I already reported the missing Images in Shopping adventure (shopping-lisa-casual-peek-fail and shopping-lisa-dress-peek-fail).

So, the chaged Mod.txt, O9.txt and the missing Images you can get here:

You must be registered to see the links

And many thanks, it really helps to increase the quality of my mod

 

[lazyharry]

Hi @Vikar73

and here is already the answer to missing images in Shopping Adventure:

Nice find Lazyharry, those images are indeed not included in the mod files. But i looked into it and the reference shouldn't be included in the mod.txt aswell. You should normally never pass through that dialogue and the according images.

If you seem to have another experience than please tell me.

 

[Vikar73]

So, the chaged Mod.txt, O9.txt and the missing Images you can get here:

You must be registered to see the links

And many thanks, it really helps to increase the quality of my mod

Cool, thanx a lot!

 

[lazyharry]

So..
What's the difference between this one and The Chancer mod..
Last time i played it was 0.12 and want to play this game again but with all(or at least as many)mods possible.
Are there mods included in Changer that are not in this one (or the other way around). (Like the seduction mod)

Which one should i download, which on has more mods and is "better".
(And i like the mods to progress as naturel as possible with the story if that makes a difference.)
@lazyharry

Hi,
I'll try to give you an objective answer. Both mods contain a lot of events, which you'll find in both mods, but also some, which you'll have only in one or the other. Some scenes you'll find in both are the same images, but total different dialogue. Good example therefore: modul 15. Extra Yoga with Mom and modul C11. Mom Yoga-different scenes, which contains also the same scene.
If you use an text editior you can compare the different approach. It starts in modul 15 with mm.extra.yoga.0 in mod.txt , and in modul C11 with 9.hd.0 in momtalk.txt. That leads direct to your next question: which one is "better" ? You do not really expect an answer from me to this question, or? Everyone has to decide for himself.
The last question is easy to answer. Up to now chancer mod is containing more scenes, than mine. But it also contains more scenes than LPS, that are already in BB basic game.

 

[lazyharry]

Is there anyway of getting just the photo shoot without the other mods?
I just didn't care for some of those other added scenes.
Thanks

I take that as a compliment. I've invested a lot of time to implement this as smoothly as possible into the data files, but I don't have the time to strip my mod back down to only one event.
You can do this with an text editor. You can identify the added parts, they are included without text indent. You'll find the parts in voyeur.txt, kiratalk.txt, lisatalk.txt and other .txt You always should include the lines, where the event is started.
Example: in voyeur.txt which contains the main events it starts from line line 1286-2072, but it's also necessary to have the initiating lines 1202 - 1213, and here you have to eleminate the not wanted parts (lines 1207,1208). And the dialogue scenes are in kiratalk.xt, lizatalk.txt, other.txt.

1. Lisa's Photo-Session- Part 1(images by @celtic1138) ℗
a give present voyeur.txt
b talk kira lamps kiratalk.txt
c Photo-Session voyeur.txt
d dishwashing other.txt
e show images / reward lizatalk.txt
f talk to Kira/show images kiratalk.txt
2. Lisa's Photo-Session- Part 2 (images by @celtic1138) ℗ voyeur.txt
3. Lisa's Photo-Session- Part 3 ( (images by @celtic1138) ℗ voyeur.txt
and you need to have following lines in mod.txt
change.liza.plan.dia@60@These are the new plans, syntax is as follow
eric.inf=0&day=0&liza.gift^12 gift 0 loc-27 true
eric.inf>1&day=0&liza.gift^12 gift 0 loc-27 true

 

[User_51567]

Hi,
I'll try to give you an objective answer. Both mods contain a lot of events, which you'll find in both mods, but also some, which you'll have only in one or the other. Some scenes you'll find in both are the same images, but total different dialogue. Good example therefore: modul 15. Extra Yoga with Mom and modul C11. Mom Yoga-different scenes, which contains also the same scene.
If you use an text editior you can compare the different approach. It starts in modul 15 with mm.extra.yoga.0 in mod.txt , and in modul C11 with 9.hd.0 in momtalk.txt. That leads direct to your next question: which one is "better" ? You do not really expect an answer from me to this question, or? Everyone has to decide for himself.
The last question is easy to answer. Up to now chancer mod is containing more scenes, than mine. But it also contains more scenes than LPS, that are already in BB basic game.

Thank you for your answer..
I'm am going to use your mod.
Simply because yours is still in development and you are still adding new things.
And it seems to me that your mod is more "stream lined"... That your mod takes the natural progression of the game in account.

Will try the Chancer mod another time (because it seems to me that the Seduction mod is the big difference between yours and Chancer)
And your mod added arround 2000 new images, so i think that's more then enough scenes .

Again thanks for your reply.

 

[Bobby's Diner]

I've played through a few times. This is my impressions from it. So first before I dive in I want to say the additional scenes are decent and there is promise. I'm not sure if I did something wrong with adding the mods or what, but there's completely random triggers for the mod that I'm not sure should be happening at the time they are. Such as starting out I legit can go to the added mid-day yoga and almost have a instant sex scene with Ann. I feel this should have been triggered after the original content of the game when Max finally sleeps with her. Same with Kira when she shows up the week after (on Saturday) you can have the sex scene with her in the shower. Which I feel this should be accessed after the 2nd photo-shoot with her. As well as the "Lets make a porn movie" option, I think should at the very least be delayed till after they done the first movie.

I can peek in on Kira and Alice in the shower and there's a chance they catch me and have a sex scene then, I feel this should be delayed till the very least after you start helping Alice in the blogs or even doing the nightly scenes with her and Kate. I can also get a sex scene with Ann when shes watching movies in the lounge, I think the additional movies that you can watch with Ann should be delayed till Kira gives us the movie from Ann's new job (after the 4th movie) and the absolute sex scenes be delayed till Max actually sleeps with Ann in the original content. As for the actual photo-shoot with Lisa, it depends on her mood instead I think it should actually depend on certain parts in the "mentor" opportunity. Because at this point you can just get her mood up then knock on the door and start the photo-shoot opportunity when you're not even far along in the mentor opportunity (I was actually able to start it without even starting the opportunity). I also was actually able to start the additional movie without even starting/finishing the 4th movie.

Additionally, my game would get stuck when I got rid of Eric via Kate's mom, (2 attempts), and this would stop the whole progress of the game. I could not progress any other opportunities or anything. I would ask her why she was sad to trigger the 5 day's till she tells everyone he's gone at breakfast, but it would never come.

I hated the cheats menu, it was glitchy and caused for some headaches (especially at breakfast/dinner when you have the option to punish people), So I am currently looking into editing it myself in hopes of smoothing out the process and adding in additional exits so you don't have to go through multiple menus to cancel out. If you would like my finished product I would be more then willing to share.

I feel like with the current scenes and how they are set up you could possibly configure this as a "Add-on" where you actually get these scenes after certain opportunities or even begin new opportunities as they are now its more of meshed together and there's really not a sense of achievement when they come (if that makes sense). Overall I like the scenes but think execution can be better and would love to discuss more about it.

 

[lazyharry]

I've played through a few times. This is my impressions from it. So first before I dive in I want to say the additional scenes are decent and there is promise. I'm not sure if I did something wrong with adding the mods or what, but there's completely random triggers for the mod that I'm not sure should be happening at the time they are. Such as starting out I legit can go to the added mid-day yoga and almost have a instant sex scene with Ann. I feel this should have been triggered after the original content of the game when Max finally sleeps with her. Same with Kira when she shows up the week after (on Saturday) you can have the sex scene with her in the shower. Which I feel this should be accessed after the 2nd photo-shoot with her. As well as the "Lets make a porn movie" option, I think should at the very least be delayed till after they done the first movie.

I can peek in on Kira and Alice in the shower and there's a chance they catch me and have a sex scene then, I feel this should be delayed till the very least after you start helping Alice in the blogs or even doing the nightly scenes with her and Kate. I can also get a sex scene with Ann when shes watching movies in the lounge, I think the additional movies that you can watch with Ann should be delayed till Kira gives us the movie from Ann's new job (after the 4th movie) and the absolute sex scenes be delayed till Max actually sleeps with Ann in the original content. As for the actual photo-shoot with Lisa, it depends on her mood instead I think it should actually depend on certain parts in the "mentor" opportunity. Because at this point you can just get her mood up then knock on the door and start the photo-shoot opportunity when you're not even far along in the mentor opportunity (I was actually able to start it without even starting the opportunity). I also was actually able to start the additional movie without even starting/finishing the 4th movie.

Additionally, my game would get stuck when I got rid of Eric via Kate's mom, (2 attempts), and this would stop the whole progress of the game. I could not progress any other opportunities or anything. I would ask her why she was sad to trigger the 5 day's till she tells everyone he's gone at breakfast, but it would never come.

I hated the cheats menu, it was glitchy and caused for some headaches (especially at breakfast/dinner when you have the option to punish people), So I am currently looking into editing it myself in hopes of smoothing out the process and adding in additional exits so you don't have to go through multiple menus to cancel out. If you would like my finished product I would be more then willing to share.

I feel like with the current scenes and how they are set up you could possibly configure this as a "Add-on" where you actually get these scenes after certain opportunities or even begin new opportunities as they are now its more of meshed together and there's really not a sense of achievement when they come (if that makes sense). Overall I like the scenes but think execution can be better and would love to discuss more about it.

I've really no problem with that, there is enough space in game to improve it. But one question: are you talking only about the mod parts ? It seems to me, that you're also talking about basic game and there are a lot of illogical things in it.
And if you can improve cheat menu, fine. I'll try it.

In mod scenes I've developed (you know I've taken also a lot from chancer mod), I've gradually added conditions that are as logical as possible. Sure, I can change conditions, no problem, but then it has to be tested if it woks properly, therefore you need to have saves of each different step through the whole game (I don't have).

Let me give you an example for one of the mentioned mod scenes:

Same with Kira when she shows up the week after (on Saturday) you can have the sex scene with her in the shower. Which I feel this should be accessed after the 2nd photo-shoot with her.

The condition for shower scene at saturday is: poss.aunt>11, that means, second photo-shoot is already done and Max can have sex with her, and he has reached the end of the possibility Favourit aunt (Text in poss.aunt=8 : "I'm not a virgin anymore........"). So it should be only available after 2nd photosession with her, or something is wrong in basic game.

So if you like to make a suggestion (start a conversation), then please one modul after the other, my time for working on this is limited

 

[chaf]

cannot find the images where lisa-olivia are shopping

 

[lazyharry]

cannot find the images where lisa-olivia are shopping

Do you miss only the images or do you not find the event ?
The images are in mega-folder:

You must be registered to see the links

and the events starts if you visit standard shop (not that from Shopping Adventure), whre you've to choose with whom you like to shop (Alice/Lisa/Mom), there you have the additional choice: Ꚛ Well, who is there?

 

[chaf]

Do you miss only the images or do you not find the event ?
The images are in mega-folder:

You must be registered to see the links

and the events starts if you visit standard shop (not that from Shopping Adventure), whre you've to choose with whom you like to shop (Alice/Lisa/Mom), there you have the additional choice: Ꚛ Well, who is there?

i have the choice Well who is there i will add some screenshot

 

[Shilo]

I've really no problem with that, there is enough space in game to improve it. But one question: are you talking only about the mod parts ? It seems to me, that you're also talking about basic game and there are a lot of illogical things in it.
And if you can improve cheat menu, fine. I'll try it.

In mod scenes I've developed (you know I've taken also a lot from chancer mod), I've gradually added conditions that are as logical as possible. Sure, I can change conditions, no problem, but then it has to be tested if it woks properly, therefore you need to have saves of each different step through the whole game (I don't have).

Let me give you an example for one of the mentioned mod scenes:


The condition for shower scene at saturday is: poss.aunt>11, that means, second photo-shoot is already done and Max can have sex with her, and he has reached the end of the possibility Favourit aunt (Text in poss.aunt=8 : "I'm not a virgin anymore........"). So it should be only available after 2nd photosession with her, or something is wrong in basic game.

So if you like to make a suggestion (start a conversation), then please one modul after the other, my time for working on this is limited

I agree, some of the mods (probably not those developed by yourself) seem to disregard the current progression completely, which really breaks the "immersion" and makes them feel like a cheap gallery feature that's tacked onto the game, rather than something that integrates with the story.

I'll list some things I noticed to be "sequence breaking", i.e. happening too soon. Not sure if I can map all of them to the individual modules you mentioned, though:

• Lisa and Max are sleeping completely nude in the room at 01:00. Before that time (and after), they are clothed. Lisa is not nearly at the point in my game yet where she'd be willing to undress at night. This may simply be a broken check for that single point in time.
  
• (C5, maybe?) You can enter your room at 10:00, find Lisa completely naked and she is completely okay with that, even though she'd normally struggle to just show her breasts in exchange for you doing her homework.
• The option that lets you set up someone for punishment and then being able to punish them yourself (and/or after dinner) before actually encountering that option in the playthrough is technically also a sequence break. But perhaps that menu counts as "cheat menu" anyway?
• (C26, probably?) When Olivia visits on the weekend at 15:00, you can get a threesome scene with her and Lisa ("Are you thirsty?"), even though neither of them would be willing to sleep with you under normal circumstances. The option disappears at 16:00, so maybe it's just not checking all possible times?
  
• (C20) TV scenes with mom lead to full on sex (the last option even leading to sex with everyone in the family) regardless of actual progress.
• I didn't actually check what Kate will do if I ask her right at the beginning to smoke topless at the pool. So I am listing that here as a "maybe sequence breaking".
• Not really a "sequence break" but more a bug: if I visit Mom in the morning on a weekend and use that option to go shopping with her (choosing the cheap shop and buying something for Alice), we come back and I have the option to go shopping right again on the same day.

And last but not least something that's probably more a personal opinion:
In the new scenes, Kira seems a little too slutty and desperate, for my taste. Yes, she enjoys sex. But throughout the normal game, she is almost always the one in control of the action. And she has a way of letting Max squirm instead of just giving in all the time. It doesn't really fit her character that right after her first experience with Max, she starts craving cock every time Max is around and begs him to take her in all possible ways.