FMarshallboy
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I already said it before, the party should not disappear
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Yougiblack
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So the last time I played this, was when she was about to do something with Travis while dancing, did we proceed to this point or the milking scheme began and he started to remake the whole game which is 80% texts and 20% AI gened art ?
the pre-remaster version of this game had 4 chapters. the "preview" remaster that was released this week only contains the FIRST chapter of those 4 chapters.
so no, we are only 1/4th of the way through the story. although the dev makes it sound like the remaining parts of the remaster diverge from the old timeline pretty heavily. what was released so far sticks very close to the original version with some minor changes.
the dev had repeatedly promised that he would not start charging for updates until the remaster was released, but now is going back on his word and charging for the rest of the remaster, even though many of his supporters paid for months without any releases and with constant lies about the state of progress.
so no, we are only 1/4th of the way through the story. although the dev makes it sound like the remaining parts of the remaster diverge from the old timeline pretty heavily. what was released so far sticks very close to the original version with some minor changes.
the dev had repeatedly promised that he would not start charging for updates until the remaster was released, but now is going back on his word and charging for the rest of the remaster, even though many of his supporters paid for months without any releases and with constant lies about the state of progress.
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I liked the new update! The art is much better now in my opinion, though Terrace's head still doesn't seem to fit the rest of his body (haha). Story-wise it's not too different yet, but the few changes have been positive and bring the story in a more interesting direction. I hope we won't have to wait as long for the rest!
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The remaster/remake looked better than the original, BUT I still can't come to my senses that in 8 months this is all the content that we received. I hope that every two weeks there will be a big update, if not, then you can not follow this game at all for a year or a year and a half. Maybe chapter 2/4 will be released during this time .
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That was the point I made some pages ago, does it look nice? (excluding those weird anomalies in the images as they move) yes, but with so much effort put into this, development time will only slow down, there was no reason for this, game already looked nice. Anyone else here also thinks dev will come up with new characters/scenario to keep stalling the main thing, the cuckolding itself? I hope not, but I won't hold my breath.The remaster/remake looked better than the original, BUT I still can't come to my senses that in 8 months this is all the content that we received. I hope that every two weeks there will be a big update, if not, then you can not follow this game at all for a year or a year and a half. Maybe chapter 2 will be released during this time .
Dev clearly lost interest in this project and dragged entire remaster development lazily. Or he fully remastered up to v5 and decided to release batches every 2 weeks to use f95 promotional system. That would be funny considering he expressed dislike for this site.
So we will see... For game to appear in "latest games" update has to have significant content and have window of 2 weeks.
If he starts releasing every 2 weeks content with lots of content considering how slow his developing has been, that means he's holding premade content. That would be extra scummy towards his supporters who paid money entire 8 months and received nothing.
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I mean, it's not like the dev fueled those expectations in any way.....
Completely agree with these two hypotheses. Time will tell, but my money's on the first - if anyone is taking a cold hard look at what's been done - say you were a manager evaluating an employees work; I see the current remaster chapter as something a capable ai developer could do in less than a week's work or <40 hrs. There's not a ton of deviation in dialogue, and the base flow is already there.
I'd put better than 2:1 odds on not seeing regular updates every 2 weeks for the next 3 cycles.
@ tori if he reads these - you STILL kept a ludicious amount of hard pauses in, this tells me exactly the type of real world personality we're talking about here. I'd definitely soften or omit much of my criticism if I didn't think the dev we're talking about was so pompous in reality.
He already proved to be dishonest dev telling people that he sketches and draws his art himself and it takes 8 hours for each CG.I mean, it's not like the dev fueled those expectations in any way.....
Completely agree with these two hypotheses. Time will tell, but my money's on the first - if anyone is taking a cold hard look at what's been done - say you were a manager evaluating an employees work; I see the current remaster chapter as something a capable ai developer could do in less than a week's work or <40 hrs. There's not a ton of deviation in dialogue, and the base flow is already there.
I'd put better than 2:1 odds on not seeing regular updates every 2 weeks for the next 3 cycles.
@ tori if he reads these - you STILL kept a ludicious amount of hard pauses in, this tells me exactly the type of real world personality we're talking about here. I'd definitely soften or omit much of my criticism if I didn't think the dev we're talking about was so pompous in reality.
And some people believe that. It is a straight up lie.
He has said older methods would sometime take 40 hours for a single picture. And new method is an improvement that takes only 8 hours for a single CG.
Yet somehow in 6 or so months he released version 1 to version 5, including writing new story, and with such faster workflow he couldn't even release full remaster version 1 in 8 months.
And he's not going to address that because I have ss him saying all that nonsense.
Seriously, the more you dig, the more you realize how much full of bullcrap tori is.
You're slow whatever... But why start making things up and lie? Anyone who touched ai image generation knows that's a lie. Your art is not hand drawn or even photoshop edited (except for noise filter and vibrance/saturation) because it is full of AI inconsistency/artifacts.
Just stop lying.
P.S did some stable diffusion in half an hour testing new style. I honestly have no idea what dev doing 8 hours per 1 image. And don't tell me details matter as I did multiple characters in the past etc. (just style didn't fit). https://f95zone.to/threads/blurring-the-walls-v0-5-27-torimiata.175854/post-15831484
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Clearly, I'm not a developer and was just experimenting to see what works. Honestly, I didn't put in that much effort since I could have guided the model more precisely by providing a detailed description of Ayumi's hairstyle etc. But do these seem close enough? It didn't take me months to get to this point—probably just about half a day's effort combined to achieve this style with my first attempt at https://f95zone.to/threads/blurring-the-walls-v0-5-27-torimiata.175854/post-15830576 .I still don't see the remaster.
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Do people in this thread really want Torimiata to drop the development of the game this much? I am not sure why there would be such large amounts of pointless hate otherwise, knowing that the developer regularly visits this thread. If you don't like the developer and the game - that's okay, you do you. But don't ruin this for those of us that actually do want the game to continue. Just chill and walk away, there is nothing holding you here.
People are calling out his lies. It was his own words telling that he's pausing patreon until remaster is done, but then changed his mind. It was his own words telling people that 1 AI picture takes 8-40 hours to make, and that's a blatant lie. And it was his choice to call people "trolls" who called out his inconsistency/lies. That's why people start talking about it.
Just don't lie to people by making stuff up.
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Cool, you dislike the dev. You got our point across, I have my own problems with him too. Yet, you are still here, writing walls of text describing how much the dev ruined your life. You are literally wasting HOURS of your life by doing this. I don't get this. Get outside and touch grass pls.
So why are you wasting your time writing this yourself?
I responded to someone quoting me, and now I responding to you. That's it.
You have your own opinion, I have mine.
Because I actually like the game and am invested in its further development?
So what? That gives a dev green light to lie and make up stuff?Because I actually like the game and am invested in its further development?
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Yeah it's crazy the same guys who say the game is overrated or clearly don't like the dev are for some reason the most active here on the thread. And yes nobody was happy how Tori handle the remaster but at some point you should just move on to other games you like.
WVM telling update is around the corner for 10 months.
Ecchi Sensei dev telling people he's working hard after 4 years of releasing nothing.
Tell Tori to stop lying and misleading people to avoid people talking about him lying and misleading people. Simple.
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