Otavio dos santos
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somebody has a save file where the protagonist has the boobs and the outfit of a cow like the images?
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I have a feeling after the whole itch.io and Steam thing some devs needed to redo some elements of their game, but getting turned into a goblin and then locked out of sex stuff because "you look like a child" is too much. Either get rid of the content or have a switch we can flip somewhere to deactivate the shit. That ruined my play through so fast.
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i forgot i was still subbed to this game on subscribestar and its pretty much still the same thing except its got woke ideology stuff in it, including changing the gender selection from male or female too now CISFAB, you also have nonbinary and im sure other options will be added since genders is like an ocean and it goes on forever these days, and also body type 1 and 2 which plague games today, so i deleted and unsubbed because quite frankly i find that to be insulting and i will never use those terms but i carried on and no surprise but its the same thing it was a year ago..
As i have said in the past nothing but a patreon/subscribstar farm and ever since the creator drank the koolaid they rather put all their focus on letting people know how their transitioning is going and make a whole pride month update and not well.. IMPROVE THE FUCKING GAME, i mean ffs, good for you dev but i didn't ask for all of this pride related stuff in a game thats been in development for 6 years plus now, you all the sudden decide too throw all this in after coming out?, i wouldn't complain as much if it was optional or in a new game instead of this, but besides my personal gripes relating to the blatant pandering and virtue signaling now the creator is trans, its still as broken and full of issues as it has been, actually no more then that and it also performs horribly and takes forever too load... All that shit that's been promised for years now is still not in the bloody game including the bedrooms of the contestants, this game had potential but it will never reach it.
Also don't get me started on how much this has pretty much completely derailed from the original idea and the game bimbo house this was inspired by, with the whole complicated nonsense involving experimentation and reverting time and the fantasy stuff it lost the plot long ago.
As i have said in the past nothing but a patreon/subscribstar farm and ever since the creator drank the koolaid they rather put all their focus on letting people know how their transitioning is going and make a whole pride month update and not well.. IMPROVE THE FUCKING GAME, i mean ffs, good for you dev but i didn't ask for all of this pride related stuff in a game thats been in development for 6 years plus now, you all the sudden decide too throw all this in after coming out?, i wouldn't complain as much if it was optional or in a new game instead of this, but besides my personal gripes relating to the blatant pandering and virtue signaling now the creator is trans, its still as broken and full of issues as it has been, actually no more then that and it also performs horribly and takes forever too load... All that shit that's been promised for years now is still not in the bloody game including the bedrooms of the contestants, this game had potential but it will never reach it.
Also don't get me started on how much this has pretty much completely derailed from the original idea and the game bimbo house this was inspired by, with the whole complicated nonsense involving experimentation and reverting time and the fantasy stuff it lost the plot long ago.
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I launched this on Winlator , it works worse than Mad Island , with crashes , although it’s a novel , why the hell lower the resolution if the graphics are from paint
You are a confusing human being... plays and supports a game about gender bending, sissification, and bimbofication but draws the line at "Body Type" wokeness...
godhan69
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Heres the thing, we usually play games too escape real life, transgenerism is real and bimbofication fetishes are not real, you can't just become a drooling moron in real life, and to even drastically change yourself because bimbofication potions don't exist and you can't just inject a liquid to become an opposite gender, that would require actual surgery and lot of money and lot of potential complications in the future to even consider trying to become an actual plastic doll bimbo.
The game is a fetish game first and foremost, about shit that is just not possible with cow people and fairies, and imo pride month doesn't belong anymore then it belongs in a game like call of duty or dragon age, i don't want to be reminded of something i see everywhere as it is thank you, call me a bigot i really don't care the creator should of left that in for a new game and not for this game that has been in development for years and how it's incorporated into this game is just virtue signaling and you can see it right on the character select screen, so i dropped the game end of discussion.
Besides plenty of "sissification" games exist with bimbofication elements or other fetishes, and i don't see them pandering too this recent trans ideology gender politics, with these flags and calling straight people terms such as CIS and not just male or female which this game had for a very long time until recently after this creator only decided too change it, and its only because the creator came out as trans that this was even changed.
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You're better off going to the discord for individual steps, since there's alot of parts for individual things and just get randomly added with each update that no one bothers putting a large guide together
Sissifaction and bimobfication are real fetishes and a lot of times are elements within transgenderism. Also, the term Cis isn't just for straight people, it's a term about people in general. And while the game does play with stuff that ain't real like potions that turn you into a woman, it's still a game about about gender identity and sexuality... I'd asked how you missed that but I could guess which podcast you listen to and figure it out.
godhan69
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not the way they are presented here, you can't tell me this game is a real presentation of any of those especially with mysterious fluids changing you overnight, And before the game started to shift into this going back and doing things over and science fiction plotline with a ton of fictional elements it was as simple as bimbo house which wasn't a game about gender identity it wasn't that deep, it was only about turning everyone into sluts and winning the game.
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You seem like one of those people that doesn't understand allegory. Or symbolism. Or a joke.
Or someone that can do all the mental gymnastics to maintain their sexual preferences/fetishes while also holding antithetical world views.
Trapquest
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It's possible to be gay or trans, and not like the over the top nature of LBTQ+ and pride over-the-top political posturing, in fact, with a little bit of thought on how rare actual transgenderism is in terms of raw statistics it immediately brings into question using terms like "cis" to otherize 98-99% of the population, when for that proportion of people "man & woman" or "male and female" work just fine, it's not like saying "non-trans" is a huge vocal burden.
I like a lot of porn games with crossdressing or gender-play elements, so I'm not exactly straight, I would even go so far as to say that the dick makes it better, so maybe gay would be the better term. All that being said, the concept of the gay pride movement with how it's presented is incredibly narcissistic imho. The end goal of an advocacy group should be equal treatment and neutrality, and believe it or not most neurotypical straight people aren't proud of their sexual preferences, but rather neutral instead.
And don't mistake my meaning, if some gay dude is stoked because he got in with a hot guy that's different than what I'm talking about, being excited about having success in your sexual life is totally understandable. Being proud because of something about you that is completely unremarkable and unimpressive like what makes your dick hard or your pussy wet is frankly bizarre and anti-social. Gives me the same vibe as a dude who puts "I LOVE HUGE ANIME TITTIES" on a huge bumper sticker next to ahegao vinyls all over their truck. Save it for a private setting or a porn forum bro, believe it or not some people don't want your sex life shoved in their face.
I get some of what you're saying, that pride is a parade or corporate pandering at this point, and it seems narcissistic to celebrate a fact of your life. but in my eyes, the celebration (at least the trans side of it) is to help those dealing with difficult situations as finding how your trans can been an isolating nightmare of an identity crisis. feeling and acting on inexplicable feelings as a child (witch was very odd and confusing from a 15y+ hindsight) and how there can be little to no people who can help how a lot of the wrong feelings fade as you realize the way you knows was like an actor getting stuck in role and seeing the claw marks of trying to get out...
Sorry for the trama dump but the point is that its not a simple thing... not everyone approaches the idea of someone going to a trans discovery with kindness and its a real and big risk who to tell in that emotionally vulnerable decision. The celebration and games help those explore by being a serious point of relevance, and even curiously living it out in games and fanfics...
that's why despite the game getting worse in ways, even crap at points. i love the game despite it. and am happy for the Dev who's willing to do this.
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No need to apologize for expressing yourself or trauma dumping. I also get where you're coming from to an extent, it's easier to feel okay about something when somebody is hyping you up or "celebrating" you, and I agree some people need some level of emotional support above and beyond normal counseling... Intimate friend groups should fill that role if your family won't support you, imo.
But I must still disagree with the idea of turning your sexuality, or transgender status into a major focal point of your identity and a cultural movement set apart from the rest of society. The goal of acceptance can only fully be achieved when it's seen as a minor inconsequential detail about who somebody is, "he's gay, it's not a big deal." "They're trans, it's not a big deal." activists and supporters in media and other areas understood this intimately 20-30 years ago, that to be accepted by the majority, minority groups had to present themselves in a way that isn't obnoxious or imposing, to make it absolutely clear that there's no logical reason, nothing to be lost from not just accepting minorities but also being kind to them.
Now activism seems to be mostly shouting until you're hoarse in the throat, and taking up as much of cultural zeitgeist as you can get your hands on no matter how annoying it comes off to the people around you. I truly believe there would not be even a tenth as many haters and "phobes" around if the scene around sexual and gender minorities wasn't insisting upon itself so hard, while also having a hugely vocal toxic element in their movements.
Some people, when forced to tolerate something or somebody, will redouble their contempt for each time it seems like they're being forced, until there's a huge segment of society who are just sick of hearing about it and will be actively hostile because their opinion has been poisoned against something that should be this minor inconsequential thing.
The reason that the LGBTQAI+ are "over the top" is because there is a dangerous and powerful effort by religious and conservative oraganizations to make their existence illegal. It's not about being out there to shove their gayness in the faces of people but to demand the freedom to exist without laws being made to make them out to be sexual predators that should be jailed and/or killed. There are states in the US that want to strip away their rights to be married, even the Supreme Court has said that gay marriage should be looked at for if it is legal or not. Others are trying to make homosexuality to be treated like rape. We saw a year or so ago people trying to claim Drag Queens were child predators. Hell, Collective Shout, which recently targeted adult games on itch and Steam, are part of a greater group of organizations that is targeting queer people. Pride isn't just a parade, it's a political statement that queer people exist, will always exist, and will not fade into nothingness over the demands of the prude, religious, hateful powers that want them gone.
To be honest I am very much pro trans people, but jeesh. Last I played the game it was totally fine, but now it feels like the developer is constantly screaming at me about their own experiences and it's honestly off-putting. Having characters who know mine a couple of weeks dump a bunch of trauma on me about it with hackneyed, forced-feeling writing, k-novel style setups of people being bad people who don't accept trans stuff instantly see just how wrong they are and crawl in apology, or get fired for it even by the villains (lore piece in the alpha, probably not in the current version).
Hell, they even replaced 'the power of friendship' by, essentially, the power of transitioning (even if your backstory has nothing to do with transitioning... It's very odd to get a bunch of dialogue options about finally recognizing yourself as trans... as a cis woman...)
My issue isn't the subject matter. It's a fine subject. Not all games need to skirt through the emotional impact of such things by magic (like Transylvania), turn it into a fun kink (like so many games, guilty of enjoying quite a few of those) or stuff like that.
It's nice to see someone have the courage to tell an actual story about transitioning. And credit where credit's due, some of the things shared certainly match what I hear on a daily base.
...Issue is, it feels incredibly forced. The game has the silliest premise ever (and last I played it, was unabashedly just a 'try not to get corrupted' silly bimbo tf simulator. One of the least realistic corruption themed games, but I don't mind that kind of thing occasionally and it had some fun concepts).
And then suddenly it tries to tell multiple stories about gender stuff very seriously, very rushed and very irrealistically.
It feels entirely out of tune and, honestly, it makes me wonder if the rest of the game was ever intended to be parody-levels of silly, or if the writer is just not that good of a writer and doesn't themselves see how absurd their game is. I always presumed it was intentional, but if they're trying to exposition their own traumas and issues through the characters now, then I don't know about that...
Maybe make a less silly game and focus on telling a good story about transitioning. It's always good to have media with many perspectives to open eyes on how others live. But maybe the hyper-sexual, super silly bimbo game isn't the right media to squeeze in your journey of transitioning as what feels like an afterthought. And I feel like there's not going to be very useful feedback either, since probably most people are just skipping that story because the game just isn't deep enough to hook people intellectually before they get there...
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Also, more minor, the make up looks like it was done by a complete amateur at all times and it's a bit odd to be needing heel training for basic kitten heels.Feminity being a stat essentially on par with corruption kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It doesn't make you more or less feminine to have a more or less curvaceous body. In general the game feels too restricting in this stuff to me. Like, certainly as you grow more sexually liberal you'll be okay with more clothes and sex acts (oddly sex acts right now seem excluded from all those stats...) but it's not like when you're fully comfortable wearing next to nothing or even a nudist, you suddenly are uncomfortable wearing clothes. Rash affecting that makes sense to me. But exhibitionism also doing so does not. Likewise I can think of something like corruption or acceptance making bodies further from your starting point (even if for everyone, that's relatively slender) more acceptable, but it feels really odd to me that whenever it does do so, it also makes more slender types less acceptable.
Some oddness with gamification is expected but tying minimum and maximum to the same stat implies things that feel pretty misogynist and I suppose that's to be expected in games like this but it's kind of at odds with how hard the game tries to sell a 'sex positive' message. Feels less like an 'accept yourself' or 'Be who you want to be' and more like a 'Be more slutty, more femine and more curvy!', which is fine for a bimbo corruption simulator except the attempts to turn it into a serious message are a bit concerning.
If it was titled like, Bimbofication then it would click as a purely kink thing and all good. But there's some serious story attempting to be told in there too, and it's named Feminity and exhibitionism - and I think that implies strange things.
Hell, they even replaced 'the power of friendship' by, essentially, the power of transitioning (even if your backstory has nothing to do with transitioning... It's very odd to get a bunch of dialogue options about finally recognizing yourself as trans... as a cis woman...)
My issue isn't the subject matter. It's a fine subject. Not all games need to skirt through the emotional impact of such things by magic (like Transylvania), turn it into a fun kink (like so many games, guilty of enjoying quite a few of those) or stuff like that.
It's nice to see someone have the courage to tell an actual story about transitioning. And credit where credit's due, some of the things shared certainly match what I hear on a daily base.
...Issue is, it feels incredibly forced. The game has the silliest premise ever (and last I played it, was unabashedly just a 'try not to get corrupted' silly bimbo tf simulator. One of the least realistic corruption themed games, but I don't mind that kind of thing occasionally and it had some fun concepts).
And then suddenly it tries to tell multiple stories about gender stuff very seriously, very rushed and very irrealistically.
It feels entirely out of tune and, honestly, it makes me wonder if the rest of the game was ever intended to be parody-levels of silly, or if the writer is just not that good of a writer and doesn't themselves see how absurd their game is. I always presumed it was intentional, but if they're trying to exposition their own traumas and issues through the characters now, then I don't know about that...
Maybe make a less silly game and focus on telling a good story about transitioning. It's always good to have media with many perspectives to open eyes on how others live. But maybe the hyper-sexual, super silly bimbo game isn't the right media to squeeze in your journey of transitioning as what feels like an afterthought. And I feel like there's not going to be very useful feedback either, since probably most people are just skipping that story because the game just isn't deep enough to hook people intellectually before they get there...
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Also, more minor, the make up looks like it was done by a complete amateur at all times and it's a bit odd to be needing heel training for basic kitten heels.Feminity being a stat essentially on par with corruption kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It doesn't make you more or less feminine to have a more or less curvaceous body. In general the game feels too restricting in this stuff to me. Like, certainly as you grow more sexually liberal you'll be okay with more clothes and sex acts (oddly sex acts right now seem excluded from all those stats...) but it's not like when you're fully comfortable wearing next to nothing or even a nudist, you suddenly are uncomfortable wearing clothes. Rash affecting that makes sense to me. But exhibitionism also doing so does not. Likewise I can think of something like corruption or acceptance making bodies further from your starting point (even if for everyone, that's relatively slender) more acceptable, but it feels really odd to me that whenever it does do so, it also makes more slender types less acceptable.
Some oddness with gamification is expected but tying minimum and maximum to the same stat implies things that feel pretty misogynist and I suppose that's to be expected in games like this but it's kind of at odds with how hard the game tries to sell a 'sex positive' message. Feels less like an 'accept yourself' or 'Be who you want to be' and more like a 'Be more slutty, more femine and more curvy!', which is fine for a bimbo corruption simulator except the attempts to turn it into a serious message are a bit concerning.
If it was titled like, Bimbofication then it would click as a purely kink thing and all good. But there's some serious story attempting to be told in there too, and it's named Feminity and exhibitionism - and I think that implies strange things.
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Trapquest
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The LGBT+ community could absolutely fight those battles without exacerbating a lot of the problems I mentioned like they are currently. You can say it's overcompensating because they have been thoroughly oppressed, but it doesn't change the fact that it isn't helping their cause or winning people over to their side. Homosexuality and alternate sexuality used to be thoroughly reviled in the 50s, and the subtle and humble method I mentioned being used in the 90s and early 2000s made it so that more than half of the western world's population accept homosexuality, and now there's only a religious and fundamentalist conservative minority who are particularly opposed, and for those people it's not even their most prioritized issue most of the time.
Jordan Peterson as an example would never have become such a huge vocal opposition if the community around him didn't make a point of de-platforming him, and trying to force an explicitly pro-trans atmosphere essentially by force and also via mass protesting and essentially harassment. I'm not saying Jordan Peterson is a good political figure to be clear, but I will say categorically that the Streisand effect launched him into power and the publicity around it made the trans and lgbt+ community look very bad to both conservatives and neutral onlookers to boot, because it smacked of arrogance and authoritarian over-reach.
In earlier versions of the game it very obviously is primarily focused on a forced feminization theme, it is actively focusing on the protagonist dealing with dysphoria and only getting over that dysphoria from being forced to dress like a woman and have womanly stuff done to them through drugging and brainwashing. It's actually quite dark if you look at it from a "realistic" perspective, but a lot of sissification and forced fem games are focally around this forceful theme, and I personally am into it, as a fantasy, even if the real life concept would be reprehensible.
The issue here is that, with that being the original design, all the trans-acceptance stuff being thrown in 3/4s of the way into development creates not just a narrative whiplash for people closely following development, but also causes the issue of ludo-narrative dissonance.
If the protagonist was "trans all along" and this was their true path why did they need all the medication and gaslighting from the various cast of the story to figure it out. It's like storytelling powered by industrial grade gaslighting, if they wanted to make a purely trans-positive game they should have made a new game from the ground up with that in mind. If they took the classic game "Perverted Education" and suddenly threw in trans-acceptance stuff unironically towards the end it would also very obviously come off as a weird "Look, he's actually trans, all this gaslighting and rape we did to him is totally justified" plotline.
You can do pro-trans, or you can do forced fem, doing both in the same plot for the same character will always be a bit sus.