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[faerakhasa]

So, after a fast playthough, my opinions:

-The game is very barebones (obviously, for a first release) but those bones are very interesting.

-I'll join the combat complains. I understand it is a placeholder, but until you have a combat system it holds the player prisoner watching the screen too long. The bugfix makes things much better, but it is something to watch.

-I think the romance with Liora is a bad idea. Not because there is anything wrong with her per se, but your character is forced to declare his love suddenly, without any warning, and without any choice. No, worse, you still have to declare your love even though you may have picked one of the other two women to visit, which you presumably did because you wanted to romance them and not the healer. This is going to make quite a few players (who prefer the MILF, the muscle girl, the elf girl or the guys) resent her character from the start.

 

[Xakorik]

So, after a fast playthough, my opinions:

-The game is very barebones (obviously, for a first release) but those bones are very interesting.

-I'll join the combat complains. I understand it is a placeholder, but until you have a combat system it holds the player prisoner watching the screen too long. The bugfix makes things much better, but it is something to watch.

-I think the romance with Liora is a bad idea. Not because there is anything wrong with her per se, but your character is forced to declare his love suddenly, without any warning, and without any choice. No, worse, you still have to declare your love even though you may have picked one of the other two women to visit, which you presumably did because you wanted to romance them and not the healer. This is going to make quite a few players (who prefer the MILF, the muscle girl, the elf girl or the guys) resent her character from the start.

I think that might be where the NTR will branch off from, the only thing I don't like about it is the constant affection/attraction drops from Serin.

 

[faerakhasa]

I think that might be where the NTR will branch off from

Then she should be your girlfriend as the game background, not one of two childhood friends. If the game starts you with two female childhood friends with very different looks and personalities the impression the player gets is that you will get to pick the one that attracts you more as your girl.

If a bad introduction makes you resent your girlfriend then the NTR will lose a lot of its value, because you would be wanting to get rid of her so you could romance another in peace.

 

[Xakorik]

Then she should be your girlfriend as the game background, not one of two childhood friends. If the game starts you with two female childhood friends with very different looks and personalities the impression the player gets is that you will get to pick the one that attracts you more as your girl.

If a bad introduction makes you resent your girlfriend then the NTR will lose a lot of its value, because you would be wanting to get rid of her so you could romance another in peace.

Good point, Serin matches some of my preferences.

 

[Bonds Defiled]

So, after a fast playthough, my opinions:

-The game is very barebones (obviously, for a first release) but those bones are very interesting.

-I'll join the combat complains. I understand it is a placeholder, but until you have a combat system it holds the player prisoner watching the screen too long. The bugfix makes things much better, but it is something to watch.

-I think the romance with Liora is a bad idea. Not because there is anything wrong with her per se, but your character is forced to declare his love suddenly, without any warning, and without any choice. No, worse, you still have to declare your love even though you may have picked one of the other two women to visit, which you presumably did because you wanted to romance them and not the healer. This is going to make quite a few players (who prefer the MILF, the muscle girl, the elf girl or the guys) resent her character from the start.

thanks, good points.

I think that might be where the NTR will branch off from, the only thing I don't like about it is the constant affection/attraction drops from Serin.

Correct! As for Serin, the plan is to eventually give her the option to "steal" the protagonist away from Liora — a sort of reverse NTR route.

Then she should be your girlfriend as the game background, not one of two childhood friends. If the game starts you with two female childhood friends with very different looks and personalities the impression the player gets is that you will get to pick the one that attracts you more as your girl.

If a bad introduction makes you resent your girlfriend then the NTR will lose a lot of its value, because you would be wanting to get rid of her so you could romance another in peace.

Good suggestion. That would work with the NTR plot too. I might have to rewrite the early stages.

 

[ｲ尺ﾑｷﾑﾚムﾑ尺 り ﾚﾑW]

When I play on android chrome, the images are broken. Is there any good browser for android to play this on?

 

[Deleted member 1674021]

Really like the idea.

- Since there is 'resistance' stat along with 'choices that matter' being present, we can assume that the protagonist will have an influence on who(or even if any) gets NTR'd? (if Rylan focuses solely on one girl, the others get stolen, for example)

- From the description I got the impression that the game's focus is on corruption and fetishes, with NTR being one of them. If so, might want to word it out if it's avoidable, since choices and decisions seem to be your main goal.

 

[Bonds Defiled]

Really like the idea.

- Since there is 'resistance' stat along with 'choices that matter' being present, we can assume that the protagonist will have an influence on who(or even if any) gets NTR'd? (if Rylan focuses solely on one girl, the others get stolen, for example)

- From the description I got the impression that the game's focus is on corruption and fetishes, with NTR being one of them. If so, might want to word it out if it's avoidable, since choices and decisions seem to be your main goal.

Thanks!

1. resistance stats as well as fetishes and lust will change the outcome of dialogs and choices. For example, you have a armpit fetish and your current lust value is high certain dialogs may change (you can't stop looking at Serins armpits). Attraction is a big factor too and it becomes harder to resist certain temptations. Like during the Mariel foot massage if you choose to resist smelling them, but your smell and foot fetish is high you might not be able to resist.
It's already implemented in the game, but I don't show those rolls in the game. Tried it at first but at some point you would focus more on the rolls than the actual story, so I hide them.

2. regarding NTR you can avoid it fully or choose only certain characters being targeted.
I'll put warnings on those choices too, like I did with gay content.

 

[faerakhasa]

Good suggestion. That would work with the NTR plot too.

That's why most NTR games don't let you pick your girlfriend (like you also don't get to pick your, ahem, "landlady"). Maybe she will not be the player's favourite, but it is unlikely the dev will create a girlfriend so bad that it will make the player dislike her at first sight, "neutral" at worst is a good stance.

Because I doubt that the players of a corruption NTR game are actually looking to play as a faithful monogamous romantic, they will seduce all the options that they find attractive anyway, not only their favourite. "Good enough for the prologue" is, well, good enough for a secondary seduction target.

Ideally you would get to pick your girl, but then you as the dev have to develop several girlfriend NTR paths, with will increase your workload a lot. Giving the option of changing girls down the line is almost as satisfying, and much less work.

 

[Cajun Fox]

Thanks for the share

 

[Dozey]

That's why most NTR games don't let you pick your girlfriend (like you also don't get to pick your, ahem, "landlady"). Maybe she will not be the player's favourite, but it is unlikely the dev will create a girlfriend so bad that it will make the player dislike her at first sight, "neutral" at worst is a good stance.

Because I doubt that the players of a corruption NTR game are actually looking to play as a faithful monogamous romantic, they will seduce all the options that they find attractive anyway, not only their favourite. "Good enough for the prologue" is, well, good enough for a secondary seduction target.

Ideally you would get to pick your girl, but then you as the dev have to develop several girlfriend NTR paths, with will increase your workload a lot. Giving the option of changing girls down the line is almost as satisfying, and much less work.

Dev was pretty clear on this. Liora is the NTR route, the others are non-NTR or reverse NTR style routes of various kinds.

This is yet another case of the NTR tag is too general to be of any use because it represents half the content discussed in totally different ways, appealing to wildly different people.

I guess I'll just keep checking in to see if sharing routes are fleshed out yet.

Good luck dev, my one warning would be that trying to make the same character dominant and submissive by nature usually goes terribly wrong. Don't fall for that narrative trap.

They can do dominant and submissive things, people are rarely one dimensional, but they can't default to both they need to default to one or the other, or a neutral position in order to have even a poor character.

 

[madhatter11]

Really impressive start, I enjoyed the story with strong writing and likeable characters. I like the soul system and the fact that it gives the potential to shape the story and give choices actual impact. Best wishes with the development of the game as I feel like this could be really good.

 

[Bonds Defiled]

Really impressive start, I enjoyed the story with strong writing and likeable characters. I like the soul system and the fact that it gives the potential to shape the story and give choices actual impact. Best wishes with the development of the game as I feel like this could be really good.

high praise, thanks a lot!

 

[Kirakishou]

So, the concept is great but there are some questions:

1. Combat, either speed it up or rewrite from scratch
2. From the description i thought it would be classic "cuck MC watches his girls gettin a D" with the pure route, but as i see it's quite more "MC might be cuck, or might be cuckin or even both". Is it just the start or the descrition should be fixed?
3. Will there be a generic character development or specialization? For example there's a clear route to Liora's exhibitionism, will all other characters be exhibitionists at some point too? If player decides it ofc.

Also, i hope you won't add additional characters for corruption as this concept is already quite big for solo developer. Otherwise we won't see it done in our lifetime...

 

[Buttdoer]

I definitely feel like the placeholder for the combat system could just be "combat will go here, coming in later builds" rather than several prolonged scenes.

I also have to ask, will there be several gay options in the game or is the game intended to focus pretty exclusively on the straight routes?

 

[jaimeastorga2000]

How do I save? The save menu goes away once the left frame gets taken over by the Background Characters.

EDIT: Okay, I figured it out. If I make the window full screen I can see the save menu on the bottom.

This game is incredibly ambitious, but shows a good amount of polish so far. Great use of AI. Looking forward to it.

One thing, is it really a good idea to increase stats by multiples of 0.1? If you multiplied every number by ten, you could keep everything the same but make the numbers cleaner.

 

[N1rox98]

[*]Futanarization (yes, we’re calling it that ) will be introduced later.

This would be goated. Futanari+NTR is almost non-existant at games field, but Futanarization on top of that?.. It might be the thing I searched all this time. Honestly, the scenario of a close to you girl growing a penis (maybe not sharing this problem with you out of fear you couldn't accept it) and stealing other girls from you under it's influence is super hot for an NTR idea - the girl getting corrupted and her corrupting others because of her new cravings.

Adding up stat system, and you could do a progression of this state: outgrowing MC's size could result in some nice commentary from other characters and change of attitude of said girl. Honestly, the possibilities are wide.

The last time I have seen something like this was Futa Fantasy but it was ruined by dev himself. So, just don't try to do everything and fast - a lot of options to progress the game might be bad too after all, especially with player's wild wishes like mine, heh.

All in all, I am really excited to witness this idea yet again - cook well.

 

[Ali-Jo]

Good start would love to see some swinging/netorase content in this and some bisexual stuff to go with it

 

[BluJBooty]

Awesome! OP is certainly talking the talk, we'll see how well it is implemented. Femboys and Futas are their own genders thank you. Ones that, while I don't hate, find unattractive and replacing the gay content too frequently. Also I call them Femitrans and Futatrans for transitioning or transforming into those genders. Thank you preemptively for providing masculine gay content, its so very difficult to find and thank you for listening.

 

[Bonds Defiled]

So, the concept is great but there are some questions:

1. Combat, either speed it up or rewrite from scratch
2. From the description i thought it would be classic "cuck MC watches his girls gettin a D" with the pure route, but as i see it's quite more "MC might be cuck, or might be cuckin or even both". Is it just the start or the descrition should be fixed?
3. Will there be a generic character development or specialization? For example there's a clear route to Liora's exhibitionism, will all other characters be exhibitionists at some point too? If player decides it ofc.

Also, i hope you won't add additional characters for corruption as this concept is already quite big for solo developer. Otherwise we won't see it done in our lifetime...

1. yep
2. Thanks, yes changed it. It's the latter.
3. I'm planning for 2–3 specializations per character. Having more would be too much for a solo developer to maintain and not everyone will share the same kinks. I also plan to reflect increasing corruption through visual changes, such as clothing and other external traits.

Yes don't plan to add any more characters to the main cast anytime soon. Only after having progressed the corruption of the current cast far enough I might consider adding more. I might add scenes with non main characters though.