What monster girls / boys you want (check thread for images)

  • Werewolf demi

    Votes: 341 26.5%
  • Dogman / Werewolf furry

    Votes: 367 28.6%
  • Succubus / Incubus

    Votes: 649 50.5%
  • White Fox

    Votes: 397 30.9%
  • Faun / Satyr

    Votes: 277 21.6%
  • Angel / Fallen Angel

    Votes: 535 41.6%
  • Dragon Hybrid

    Votes: 369 28.7%
  • Arachne Drider

    Votes: 252 19.6%
  • Monkey

    Votes: 160 12.5%
  • Slime

    Votes: 310 24.1%

  • Total voters
    1,285
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I was looking for some settings that would remind me of the difference between each of these stats and boosts and what they do. If anyone can help me, I'd appreciate it.
Stat gain: increases the amount of vitality you get.
defense boost: strengthens the bonus it provides during dungeon defense
spread to stats: everytime you get vitality it spreads to all combat stats as well. So you gain additional power, agi, willpower, etc
spread to chars: everytime you gain vitality all 6 other members get vitality as well.
 
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Is the battle against the hyenas supposed to be instant loss? If so, then losing a bunch of resources to it is BS
No, you can win against them. Pretty easily, actually. Just remember to increase the level of your troops. They magnify your 'Eros' (effectively attack power) for when you're getting attacked, by a percentage. And can be scaled infinitely. Just.. dump cash or energy into leveling your troops (save gems for Nim's dream stuff). While +1% and +2% might not seem like much, the effects stack, and can become very powerful, very quickly.

I may be an idiot but... how do you recruit prisoners?
1.) Build the prison (this is manditory for story progression anyway)
2.) Either level up the prison to start gaining 'Love' per day, or use the daily resource cost effects to get +1's for each resource. This will max out at +6 if you get everything.
3.) Wait several days. Prisoners (now) need a whopping 50 'Love' before they become recruitable.
4.) Once (a) prisoner(s) reach 50+ 'Love', you can recruit them (or even quick recruit them) in the evening, while you control Nim. There's a spot on the top left where it shows your prisoners.

The jump from 12 'Love' needed, up to 50.. makes it take quite awhile to get recruits now, but I hope the info helps!
 
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I'm in chapter 5 I believe. Some spoilers ahead.

Just met Sora and I love he can be a dominant femboy from what you answered me some days ago. I haven't unlocked any scenes with him yet but I'll make my masculine MC in appearence as submissive as possible to him.

Even though he is a guy and this content gets overlooked when directed to men I'd like some ass and feet worship from the MC to Sora. Besides the obvious scenes of rough anal sex I believe will appear with Sora. The MC only passive in my case if possible. I don't want him active in anything. Him fucking someone or getting a blowjob is something I don't like seeing, like what happened with Nimeria recently. I chose all the submissive options and dice rolls with rerolls, I expected her to be only dominant yet she gave me a blowjob. Her manipulation and feet content was great though. I just hoped she would only recieve pleasure, and the pleasure the Mc recieved would be from humiliation/ degradation and serving her only. The handjob with edging was also good. But that blowjob wasn't submissive in my eyes.

Regarding Serin her content is great. I think you should use some Ai tool, LORA or something to fix unclear eyes in some Ai images. I know it should be a lot of work. And the content is great so far, more so in images where there is only one character where the Ai is better. Making scenes involving two or more the AI starts showing it's flaws. Yet some sexual scenes images with two characters look good. I just wished many of them were more polished.

I chose the Serin futa path because I wanted her as dominant as possible and I had the intuition that if I didn't choose futa I wouldn't get an equal number of scenes with her pegging the MC with a strap-on than futa on male ones (although I do prefer strap on pegging than futa)

Regarding NTR I think you missed an opportunity for dark NTR with the mage Gairos. I found it strange, him as an evil and asshole character would make an excellent and taboo antagonist for a dark NTR story where he takes over the Mc's family and/or love interests and corrupts/wins them over/enslaves them sexually and emotionally progressively. Even the demons with their tragic past caused by him and his discrimination would work great for a NTR story where a character like Nimeria falls for his worst enemy. Dark Ntr is hot for a lot of us so I think it's a shame you didn't even include an optional route for him.

Tharos and the girls (I hope to see some lezdom) are my options for NTR so far. I don't like Seryk so I discarded him. I don't like male demon sexual content much, I don't like Seryk being nice for a Ntr antagonist, and his constant "bro" is cringy IMO. But that's just a personal preference where I detest when people use the word "bro" to call anyone they see without even knowing them.

The game is very good and promising. I'd like to see the MC become king in the submissive path only for him to be a puppet for the character we chose to dominate him in the game. For example being a nice king outwardly but behind closed doors (and maybe more openly in an ending) being dominated by Serin, Sora or Nim. For example a good scene in my eyes would be him giving a grand speech in the town square while Serin as the queen stands besides him while touching his ass sneakily. And after the speech is done they return to the palace to their room where he kneels and kiss Serin's foot and gets fucked in the ass.

I'd like to see findom content in the game also if we chose so. Some girls asking to be spoiled and progressively asking for more and more money, gifts or stats and skills by some method. Financially dominating the MC to the point they demand him to thank her/them for using his or the kingdom's money. Or humiliate and degrade him for being a beta that gives away his precious treasures or the people's taxes that should have been used for a better quality of life of the citizens and instead is being used to sustain luxurious and expensive tastes of Serin, Nim or Sora. The findom could also be rewarding him in dominating ways for giving them gifts, money or territory. And him geting turned on by spoiling them and losing everything to them/her/him. Being a King in name only while being a sexual and emotional slave to the girls, a girl or Sora would be hot. And then maybe lose his title as king also to the dominant counterpart, although the power dynamics wouldn't be as fun if that were the case.

Of course findom can be implemented earlier. He doesn't need to be a king to be financially dominated by some girl or Sora.

That are some of my aspirations for the future. More degrading/humiliation content if we choose the submissive options all the time. More giving pleasure and less receiving (only anal and from the humiliation or degradation or the submissive nature of giving). And more dark Ntr. Even though now it's too late and I believe you didn't want to make Gairos Ntr content there should be some dark ntr content in the game. If the ntr is from wholesome bulls or not humiliating it loses a lot of impact. It should come from an asshole antagonist that badmouths or bullies the MC and makes the girls badmouth him too for it to be more impactful. A big betrayal with degrading and humiliating corruption is hotter for many of us who enjoy that more traditional type of NTR or darker. Not the netorase one, the wholesome one or the "he cheated so I cheated on him" which is boring and justified IMO.

So to conclude I just hope in the submissive path we can at least have an ending where the MC is rock bottom submissive. And not just a wholesome ending with only gentle domination. And at least an optional dark NTR path were the MC loses everything. My comment mostly turned into a long request list but it's a great game so far. I'll try to write a 5 star review that talks more about the game one of these days and maybe subscribe to Patreon in the future.
 
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Tharos and the girls (I hope to see some lezdom) are my options for NTR so far. I don't like Seryk so I discarded him. I don't like male demon sexual content much, I don't like Seryk being nice for a Ntr antagonist, and his constant "bro" is cringy IMO. But that's just a personal preference where I detest when people use the word "bro" to call anyone they see without even knowing them.
There is NTR content with Thalor?
 
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There are missing images for the little portraits for Nimeria flashbacks when she was bullied. Her, the bullies and Seryk have no portrait, just a blank square. The same happens with Nimeria and Tharos transformation in the dungeon. No portrait, blank square, broken image icon. Maybe masculine MC dream with Sora also has no portraits? That I don't remember 100 per cent. What I remember is being dissapointed that the submissive content for Sora in the dream is only with femboy MC. The Tharos ntr content of kissing with Liora and groping I got it in the public version uploaded here. And it seemed as part of the story that unlocked with me just clicking continue in chapter 4 if I remember correctly. It didn't seem like a xmas special I had to get out of my way to get.
 
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NTR people really do want it to be as harsh as possible every time.

I kinda like the NTR routes here -because- they're romantic. Like Seryk/Liora feels more like a real love story than MC/Liora, where more often than not (in part because the LLM writing can be very repetitious) it comes off like they're just using each other as an excuse for why they shouldn't enjoy something that they clearly want to do. There's a really good example of this if you let the foxboy make out with the MC in front of everyone. The girls get down on him for allowing that, Liora in particular, and after getting frustrated and trying to brush her off for making a big deal out of nothing Seryk shows up and Liora becomes just as entranced as MC was.

That's so much more interesting to me than a straight feelbad cuckolding story. It's missing some pieces - I do wish that scene could have had a femboy MC trying to express that he's not used to being brazenly hit on by men and so not having any resistance to it, something to address the tension between the girls feeling that he should have been "more manly" about resisting those advances (especially when the core of it is their own jealousy dressed up and presented as something he did wrong) as well as his conflicted feelings toward wanting to explore being in a girl's usual position, all the while convinced that he's doing something wrong, that he should be living up to the image of what people expect of him even if it makes him miserable as he does with everything else - but the MC/Liora relationship is so dull without one of the NTR angles that it actually adds to the characterization beyond being a fetish checkbox. If it were just a typical NTR scenario I'd probably be bored by it.
 

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yeah it might be that it's too ressource heavy for some machines. I would just grab the web version and use a different browser that handles multiple animations better. Most of those active on my discord recommend brave. I personally ran it on edge, brave and opera gx.
It's just super unoptimized. I built a new computer last year to get ahead of the tariffs (and ended up getting ahead of the datacenter hikes on hardware, too, real glad I trusted my instincts there) and even with a bleeding edge CPU keeping all the animated avatars &c on maxes it out. It's just demanding too much with no checks on it.
 
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I got to sandbox part and I have two questions. In morning activities/ visit people there are a lot of green numbers indicating unseen scenes unlocked. Is it necessary to see them to unlock future content? For example I'm not interested in Liora with Mariel or John with Mariel but yes in Liora or Mariel being dominated by Serin. Will not seeing some Liora unlocked scenes limit her future content? Do I need to see all unlocked scenes for other characters to have scenes unlocked also?

I have most of things locked right now and I don't know if it's because I need to wait for the story to progress or because that and also not having seen some scenes already unlocked that don't interest me.

My second doubt is that I'll choose the dom path for a lot of characters except the MC, so Serin will be dominant to everyone she can, so will Sora and so will Tharos and Nimera if possible. With so many dominants characters existing in my save could I still choose in the future who I want to be the top one? Could i still choose a route where one of them gets all the girls and boys? I'm thinking there could be a conflict of interest bewteen Sora and Serin if I want them to enslave everyone and not share. Should I play with only one dom character per run? It's just that generally in Ntr games you choose one antagonist per run, or at least at the end you choose one, but here I'm choosing many. Can I still see every dom scene of every character until the end of the game and then choose a winner dom character/antagonist for an ending with only that character winning everything without sharing? Did I make myself clear? Am I thinking too far ahead? I could be because all this I wrote is presupposing dom characters will get their exclusive dom endings and I don't know that. If so sorry and just answer me please what do I need to see and what not to unlock future content.
 
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NTR people really do want it to be as harsh as possible every time.

I kinda like the NTR routes here -because- they're romantic. Like Seryk/Liora feels more like a real love story than MC/Liora, where more often than not (in part because the LLM writing can be very repetitious) it comes off like they're just using each other as an excuse for why they shouldn't enjoy something that they clearly want to do. There's a really good example of this if you let the foxboy make out with the MC in front of everyone. The girls get down on him for allowing that, Liora in particular, and after getting frustrated and trying to brush her off for making a big deal out of nothing Seryk shows up and Liora becomes just as entranced as MC was.

That's so much more interesting to me than a straight feelbad cuckolding story. It's missing some pieces - I do wish that scene could have had a femboy MC trying to express that he's not used to being brazenly hit on by men and so not having any resistance to it, something to address the tension between the girls feeling that he should have been "more manly" about resisting those advances (especially when the core of it is their own jealousy dressed up and presented as something he did wrong) as well as his conflicted feelings toward wanting to explore being in a girl's usual position, all the while convinced that he's doing something wrong, that he should be living up to the image of what people expect of him even if it makes him miserable as he does with everything else - but the MC/Liora relationship is so dull without one of the NTR angles that it actually adds to the characterization beyond being a fetish checkbox. If it were just a typical NTR scenario I'd probably be bored by it.
From what I know LLMs aren't as coherent as this story. If this game was writen by an LLM then it's already extremely advanced. Maybe he used Ai to refine some text or sometimes used LLM's text and modified it... But what makes you say Liora and the MC scenes are Ai text? Did you notice this in other parts of the game? What model can write Ai text like the text in this game?
 
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From what I know LLMs aren't as coherent as this story. If this game was writen by an LLM then it's already extremely advanced. Maybe he used Ai to refine some text or sometimes used LLM's text and modified it... But what makes you say Liora and the MC scenes are Ai text? Did you notice this in other parts of the game? What model can write Ai text like the text in this game?
Not the person that your responded to, but I also noticed that a lot (if not all) of the dialogue is written with AI. It's hard to explain, but it has this repetitiveness to it and the way it phrases things. As someone who has spent more time than they care to admit chatting with AI bots, it is very obvious that the writing is AI. As for being a coherent story, it is likely as you said that the AI isn't completely coming up with anything. Bonds likely has some idea of a story in mind and gives precise directions for what they want a scene to entail or something along those lines and then has the AI write the scene.
 
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Tried it and I have to say that at first it is incomprehensible, too many colors thrown in your face, the menu is different and is difficult to understand, the actions of the characters are forced... you can't choose what you want them to do at that moment, various aspects of the menus such as coins, energy, gems, make no sense because they do not increase or decrease while making a decision which causes the characters to struggle after a fight, etc.
 

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My brain cooked by this game character progression. Even I'm just put auto combat. This is not critic for you Bonds Defiled .
1. Is there super inferior Kotaku Fake Game Journalist mode for dumb people like me ?:ROFLMAO:
2. Is spending Action Point by repeat visiting to only 1 characters in 1 night matter or wasting your precious limited night activity ?

I enjoy the VN, but combat and character progression, man. I've no clue.
Also shamelessly using repeat function to pass skill check.
 

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From what I know LLMs aren't as coherent as this story. If this game was writen by an LLM then it's already extremely advanced. Maybe he used Ai to refine some text or sometimes used LLM's text and modified it... But what makes you say Liora and the MC scenes are Ai text? Did you notice this in other parts of the game? What model can write Ai text like the text in this game?
They're coherent enough, I've played around with a few AI RP bots, and some are much better than this.

This game is broken into "Chapters" partially to hide the points where context memory overflowed and they needed to start again from a new prompt.

Basically you generate main scene, then go back and generate individual scenes between characters if necessary.
 

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My brain cooked by this game character progression. Even I'm just put auto combat. This is not critic for you Bonds Defiled .
1. Is there super inferior Kotaku Fake Game Journalist mode for dumb people like me ?:ROFLMAO:
2. Is spending Action Point by repeat visiting to only 1 characters in 1 night matter or wasting your precious limited night activity ?

I enjoy the VN, but combat and character progression, man. I've no clue.
Also shamelessly using repeat function to pass skill check.
  • You can use cheats if you want to skip battles. Though later chapter have integrated H-scenes into battles so it's honestly not recommended. There are no game overs in the game either.
  • Revisiting the same person in one night isn't wasted. It helps you gain character stats and expertise, which becomes important later, especially for lust-based attacks.
  • The quick rolls during scenes mostly affect dialogue flavor and give a bit of expertise. They aren't really intended to be repeated just to force wins or losses.
  • What matters more are the seduction resistance choices - those have real impact.
  • For scenes and branching paths, your actual choices matter far more than rolling outcomes.
 

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From what I know LLMs aren't as coherent as this story. If this game was writen by an LLM then it's already extremely advanced. Maybe he used Ai to refine some text or sometimes used LLM's text and modified it... But what makes you say Liora and the MC scenes are Ai text? Did you notice this in other parts of the game? What model can write Ai text like the text in this game?
The dev posting here (or their writer) is clearly planning the story, so it's guided LLM output, but the dialogue and the prose is done with one. There are tells all over it: repeated phrases (often in their entirety), similes that don't really make sense, inconsistencies in what certain characters are meant to know (there's one particularly egregious one where Seryk teases the MC about his exam and not two lines later is told how that went and acts surprised because he's hearing about it for the first time), that dry LinkedIn way of describing things, stock structures (like always having lists in threes with no exceptions) &c.

It's not really impressive in content so much as scope. Unlike most heavy AI games the dev is really trying to take some big swings with it, so it's an interesting mix of hits and misses.
 

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The dev posting here (or their writer) is clearly planning the story, so it's guided LLM output, but the dialogue and the prose is done with one. There are tells all over it: repeated phrases (often in their entirety), similes that don't really make sense, inconsistencies in what certain characters are meant to know (there's one particularly egregious one where Seryk teases the MC about his exam and not two lines later is told how that went and acts surprised because he's hearing about it for the first time), that dry LinkedIn way of describing things, stock structures (like always having lists in threes with no exceptions) &c.

It's not really impressive in content so much as scope. Unlike most heavy AI games the dev is really trying to take some big swings with it, so it's an interesting mix of hits and misses.
It is funny to me, all these telltale AI signs people point to.

Lists are always in threes for AI because people always write lists in 3s, and AI hoovered it all up.

People can get narrative confusion too, especially when writing scenes that don't always show in the same order they were written because of player interactions with the game.

Chapter breaks because of context overflow is kind of silly when talking about a game being released chapter by chapter. It needs arbitrary cut points for a lot of reasons, so pointing out context overflow is pure wild speculation on what is not a mystery to begin with

It would not surprise me if the dev uses AI to help the writing process, but if it is good enough writing and with a coherent plot vision that they are clearly using just as a tool and guiding the input then editing the output. Good. If it helps them be more productive on the game I am directly taking without paying for then it would be a little hypocritical of me to to be annoyed that in a vague sense they are using the work of others to help create theirs without direct attributions.
 
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