Ren'Py Business of Loving [v0.14i] [Dead End Draws]

[Lewyn Collins]

Wow, that changelog! There must be a lot of content then, despite such an early stage, right?
...
Right?

 

[JohnDoeAnimeFan]

Wasn't there any older version in which the mom got pregnant?

 

[Skargaroth]

have this error

 

[antoniomontenegro]

Cheats:

bounceonmyboy = Max Money givemetheladies = All RP points maxed. rosebud = All scenes unlocked. whoamama = Lorraine Scenes Unlocked #girlboss = Kim Scenes Unlocked greenthumb = Lily Scenes Unlocked galsinblue = Ramirez Scenes Unlocked blondesrbetter = Patty Scenes Unlocked thebigmeanie = Degredation Points Maxed motherearth = Lorraine x Lily Points Maxed givemegothgf = All Charlotte Scenes Unlocked

"bounceonmyboy"
This cheat it's wrong
In the game there is no space in the game to type all the letters

 

[Furytales]

"bounceonmyboy"
This cheat it's wrong
In the game there is no space in the game to type all the letters

In the previous one it was bouncemyboy

 

[antoniomontenegro]

In the previous one it was bouncemyboy

Ah ok
Thanks

 

[antoniomontenegro]

Cheats:

bounceonmyboy = Max Money givemetheladies = All RP points maxed. rosebud = All scenes unlocked. whoamama = Lorraine Scenes Unlocked #girlboss = Kim Scenes Unlocked greenthumb = Lily Scenes Unlocked galsinblue = Ramirez Scenes Unlocked blondesrbetter = Patty Scenes Unlocked thebigmeanie = Degredation Points Maxed motherearth = Lorraine x Lily Points Maxed givemegothgf = All Charlotte Scenes Unlocked

bouncemyboy-Correct cheat
bounceonmyboy-Wrong cheat

 

[Shirokame]

The mom ntr have just 4 scene??

 

[Games & Games]

The mom ntr have just 4 scene??

depending on the route you choose if you choose the love route nothing happens, but if the degradation route with the mother happens it becomes Netorare

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Bro, chill. The way you're acting makes it sound like the game has become some sort of NTR-fest out of nowhere between versions but honestly it doesn't seem to be the case for me (unless our perceptions on what constitutes NTR or not diverge a lot, but bear with me).

- Lilly, Kim & Charlotte have pretty much zero interactions with any male characters beside the MC, so no real room for NTR there. Damn, in fact the MC can pretty much ruin Charlotte's self-esteem and chances of a career if he hooks up with her mom, literally, since he destroys the band for the mom's sake! That's some high octane toxic cheating/Netori at that. It's possible for the MC's relation with Lilly and Lorraine to evolve in a threesome, but that is by player choice.

- Patty was very much of an exhibitionist cum bucket from the get-go, so i'd find it very bizarre if someone were to get attached to her to the point of feeling betrayed over such a thing - even so, she has been updated into getting a pure romantic path too, what honestly i never expected in the first place.

- Officer Ramirez slide into corruption as cum bucket of precint & beyond or starting a partnership with the MC instead is completely up to him and player choices.

- Lorraine - ok, the whole thing with how her dates may go has irked a lot of people, but last i checked it's completely by player choice, since the MC gets to talk it out with her, convince Lorraine to drop the bastard before he gets anywhere with her, admiting the feelings for her son/tenant and then start a openly relationship with the MC.

Let's be blunt, direct and honest - the only scenario where Netorare can really happen in this game is one that the player has to persistently pursue by being jealous and yet doing nothing with the MC to intervene. Why would someone who claims to hate NTR do that to itself?! People are supposed to read before clicking!!!

Is the setting up of a such a subplot in the romance path off-putting and kind of bizarre - yes, probably, very much so i'd say. I'd say it borders on baiting or outright trolling from Dead-end's part.
Tough luck for those who made themselves suffer through something they are not into. "Hell naw, i'm blocking this turd of a guy" was very much in the cards last time i cared to check.

So, you can calm down and no real need for "it's ruined forevah!!!" soapbox sermonizing.

The problem isn't about ntr being optional or not. It's about development time and effort being spent on ntr no one asked for, instead of the content aimed at target audience.

It's like if in a bar there was a dead rat lying on the bar counter. And the barman was offering to put that dead rat into your drink. It's optional, but sours the mood for most people visiting that bar.

 

[slutsarehumanaswell]

What has voice acting and what doesn't? I used the cheats to unlock scenes but I'm not sure if that somehow means no voice acting or what?

 

[BruceMcGivern]

The problem isn't about ntr being optional or not. It's about development time and effort being spent on ntr no one asked for, instead of the content aimed at target audience.

It's like if in a bar there was a dead rat lying on the bar counter. And the barman was offering to put that dead rat into your drink. It's optional, but sours the mood for most people visiting that bar.

In top of that either dead-end (goofy name for a wanna be game maker btw lol) been yapping privately to F95 staff to remove some problematic reviews based on actual facts with context Or F95 staff did it itself based on other member reports, or who knows?!

This guy failed hard on a kickstarter, this guy ego is beyond the grades that cannot take the feedback from it's patreon supporters to remove that so called optional route, And clearly if happened once it will happen in the near future again so i be there laughing when that happens again to prove a point.

I make the same example i did before on a couple of pages back: It's like an NTR game maker wants to add out of nowhere full vanilla scenes during the development.

Guess nobody who been supporting the game for that specific and sole genre will be happy by adding something that doesn't match equally with each category , then saying it's optional that you can avoid.

That's not a solution to the problem, is just dodging the problem with unreasonable conflict of interest to the main core focus of the game.

This game is just a straight up joke with it's author being the whole circus and you can see how is little the attention been giving to it by doing crappy commissions with voice-actors nobody's to use in their 5 secs loop animations

 

[BackRunner]

Since I kinda already see where the dev is gonna do now, I am gonna leave now. I have nothing against NTR, but yeah.... the priorities of dev is kinda all over the place and I feel like it is gonna degrade the quality sooner or later.

 

[Games & Games]

I prefer that the optional route not be eliminated because it attracts both audiences, those who like it and those who don't.

 

[EvilLadyKitten]

But wasn't the Netorare just one scene ? Or does dev gonna add more I don't see the ruckus about something that happen so long ago if that is not the case but yeah I agree that devs shot himself on the foot

 

[indigoxiii]

I'm stuck on Charlotte it says she does live in her car I wonder if I can help her out some way.

 

[JohnDoeAnimeFan]

How do you begin the Mom x Lilly storyline?

 

[jxd]

I remember trying the previous version or two versions ago and I was entertained, now I load a save and there is no way to make it work, it's not good enough to play it again. I will try the next version, I hope they fix the bugs

 

[BruceMcGivern]

I prefer that the optional route not be eliminated because it attracts both audiences, those who like it and those who don't.

That's not the point on introducing NTR as an optional route in a game that originally was focused to be on vanilla, incest etc.

It's like if i go to an ice cream store and order to the cashier a cone with a chocolate ball and strawberry and he told me if is ok to add strawberry with raisins because there's no normal strawberry yet he says i can simply just spill them out as a solution.

But i never asked for strawberry with raisins and nor i would like to do that because he suggested that's the only way around to eat the a flavor i asked for.

Again if would make sense if he would do a new game only with NTR, but it makes 0 sense adding NTR in a game where the MC literally is banging all the girls for his own only and then expect specially for the mom to get an NTR scene from the perspective you see the mom character being developed with feelings towards the MC specially for.

There's better games that have less crash issues than this one and with more reasonable makers reading and taking feedback into account so they can support at long term because of how they doing an good job.

Edit: Also i don't judge on the artstyle which is a thing i can admit is fair, But it's a shoot in the foot on adding any type of NTR in an stablished vanilla game . Lesbian and such tags are fine since that makes it sexier but NTR out of the blue is just silly

 

[Games & Games]

That's not the point on introducing NTR as an optional route in a game that originally was focused to be on vanilla, incest etc.

It's like if i go to an ice cream store and order to the cashier a cone with a chocolate ball and strawberry and he told me if is ok to add strawberry with raisins because there's no normal strawberry yet he says i can simply just spill them out as a solution.

But i never asked for strawberry with raisins and nor i would like to do that because he suggested that's the only way around to eat the a flavor i asked for.

Again if would make sense if he would do a new game only with NTR, but it makes 0 sense adding NTR in a game where the MC literally is banging all the girls for his own only and then expect specially for the mom to get an NTR scene from the perspective you see the mom character being developed with feelings towards the MC specially for.

There's better games that have less crash issues than this one and with more reasonable makers reading and taking feedback into account so they can support at long term because of how they doing an good job.

Edit: Also i don't judge on the artstyle which is a thing i can admit is fair, But it's a shoot in the foot on adding any type of NTR in an stablished vanilla game . Lesbian and such tags are fine since that makes it sexier but NTR out of the blue is just silly

I liked the MC on the love route there, he treats all the women he meets in the game well and wins them over by helping them and thus winning them over, not needing anything from NTR there because it would ruin that route, now on the other route the little I played for MC He's a scoundrel and treats them all badly and takes advantage of them, so he deserves the NTR he gets. I'm playing the love route and I don't regret it and I'm enjoying the game that way.

And for me, DEV wanted to create a more basic game as they say, but the people who "pay" for the game must have complained that they didn't have this and that and so he ended up creating both routes so as not to lose either audience, those who were already playing and liked him and those who wanted NTR