can we delete all "AI CG" games

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with devs and members who have no idea of what good is
You can't decide for others what they like or find good, you can only decide for yourself.

ai just brings more to bury the good stuff deeper.
This isn't a field, your inability to use the search function and scroll past AND ignore things you don't like is not AI or anyone else's fault, it's your own.

Why bring up television?
Because it was a new technology and some made fault claims of new technologies destroying old ways of doing things....

Are people not aware of how many tv actors cant act in movies and just play their tv character every time? How amateurish the scripts get? If 40-50 years old people claim to be the last real movie enjoyers because they grew up with cinemas, if theaters are closing and need to survive on american super hero stuff it's also because of tv.
Seriously, look up the word "context" then re-read the thread....

Finally, ai, you can just google or youtube and find thousand of videos where people complain about losing a job because of ai and that's all the proof you need to tell ai fucked things up.


im not on this site but i just want all yall Ai art enthusiast to know that your attempts to justify soulless generative content enrages me to no end, stop ruining my jerk seshes with your evil tech
Well don't let us keep you, you're welcome to "not be on this site" more often...

I bought all the games i've tried
Many of the games on archive.org and no longer for sale :rolleyes:

Its funny how so many people defend this just like microtransactions lol
Ah a representative of the people who think servers run on magic and pixie dust....
 
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wow this thread is getting attention, i dont goon enough so im not on this site but i just want all yall Ai art enthusiast to know that your attempts to justify soulless generative content enrages me to no end, stop ruining my jerk seshes with your evil tech </3
You mistake common sense for "enthusiast." Those of us with calm minds aren't Pro AI -- we simply aren't rabid hyperbolists who think anyone with a differing opinion is "the enemy," even if the differing opinion is neither love nor hate, simply objectiveness.
 

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yes delete your clearly not upset reply lmao
I deleted it because I thought I'd be a bit civil, but you want me to go there?

Why should we entertain the opinion of someone who is vapid and vacant to the point that they do not have the wherewithal or the common courtesy to use the REPLY or QUOTE button so that people can know what conversation they are pulling the shit out of their diapers and throwing it around the room.

No one is upset but those frothing at the mouth with hatred.
 
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Here you are doing it again,
Ignoring the people out there that have reached their truly happy life and there is NO repeat.
Ignoring the people out there that go where life takes them not searching for anything.
Ignoring the people who have given up / settled and again NO repeat.
etc. etc. etc.
Again 0 examples, there has been proven 0 people that trully live a happy life with 0 downs coz its impossible ofc
You've clearly never met soccer fans....
Fun fact, I was one and now I dont care bout it at all, most long term soccer fans they do it coz its a very good tool to bound with other people and go watch matches together
This is a ridiculous assertion, there are tons of cheap and free easily to use tools right now, with tons of free and pirated assets and how many people are making games?

Just because the AI can do the art does NOT mean people will not have to design / choose when and where there are triggers / cuts scenes / events / choices etc.
Yes thats the curent state, but I only talk about the future when programing/scripts etc will also be fully AI generated in seconds, literally games/VNs will just be made with a prompt, thats the end goal
No you make stuff up from a narrow view and limited experience...
But I know what happened 1000 years ago, and what happens right now in different parts of the world, I dont get ur point, you talk like a granma that still dont know what internet does
- July 1, 2023

"Current Trend and Demand
In recent years, the demand for handmade knives has seen a significant surge. These knives are no longer just tools; they have evolved into collectibles, investment pieces, and tokens of luxury. Handmade knives appeal to a broad audience, from chefs and outdoor enthusiasts to collectors and art lovers, contributing to their popularity and high market value."
You realise handmade knifes were produced on x88888% scale than they are today right? and thats literally my point?? and just coz you bring an article from 2023 that is still not even moving an inch to how much we had before and the fact that you dont even wanna accept that fact that handmade crafts demand went from 100% to under 1% today its crazy how you defend this, like in what world can a demand drop to 99%+ and still not being affected? just as you said real art/artists wont be affected by automatizing every art.
It is a fact because of history, our past as humans has shown us, we are born, we live, we die. History is NOT on your side though, people whined about computer programs killing the "arts" long before AI and it has not happened. Instead they have come to coexist and actually brought about a lot of benefits.
Ok thanks for agreeing with me that what you said was dumb and indeed you can fact check the future with the past. Also ur example is so bad lol, we never had a program to automatize any art in 1 second and can be used by everyone with 0 experience, until AI we still only had artists that make art from 0, but with AI you dont need to be an artists to make AI art, even a dog can mash his paw on a keyboard with an AI prompt open and create "art" also is dumb to even use the AI and art together since technically by every deffinition AI art is not art nor you can be an artist if you are using AI to make the "art" for you.
 

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You mistake common sense for "enthusiast." Those of us with calm minds aren't Pro AI -- we simply aren't rabid hyperbolists who think anyone with a differing opinion is "the enemy," even if the differing opinion is neither love nor hate, simply objectiveness.
yes still nobody bring any value AI create beside just making more of what we already have on different variants and that itself just make every art be less valued and appreciated by everyone.
What is more impressive/valued/most apreciated? something only very few artists can do or something everyone with 0 experience can do with just typing what you want and it gonna appear on your screen? Would people go watch Circus performances if they would perform basic stuffs everyone can do like walking on 2 feet? No they go watch something only very few people can do. I don't hate AI just for fun or coz is something new etc, I only hate it coz I know it gonna make every art much less appreciated and thats gonna be a big minus for the things I enjoy. I don't even care how good AI is or how much better it gonna get, I know it will one day gonna start creating flawless arts and everyone can just type a prompt and get the perfect art they want but at that time when we gonna have that, people wont apreciate that anymore. So right know most people apreciate much more lower quality works than we gonna appreciate in the future when everyone and their cat will can create it. I am not even anti AI in general, i know AI in other domains will help us go quicker into a fully automated world where we dont need to work anymore, but at the same time it also gonna take away stuffs we enjoy today when AI will monotonize that action (like creating any art you want with a prompt).
 

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yes still nobody bring any value AI create beside just making more of what we already have on different variants and that itself just make every art be less valued and appreciated by everyone.
What is more impressive/valued/most apreciated? something only very few artists can do or something everyone with 0 experience can do with just typing what you want and it gonna appear on your screen? Would people go watch Circus performances if they would perform basic stuffs everyone can do like walking on 2 feet? No they go watch something only very few people can do. I don't hate AI just for fun or coz is something new etc, I only hate it coz I know it gonna make every art much less appreciated and thats gonna be a big minus for the things I enjoy. I don't even care how good AI is or how much better it gonna get, I know it will one day gonna start creating flawless arts and everyone can just type a prompt and get the perfect art they want but at that time when we gonna have that, people wont apreciate that anymore. So right know most people apreciate much more lower quality works than we gonna appreciate in the future when everyone and their cat will can create it. I am not even anti AI in general, i know AI in other domains will help us go quicker into a fully automated world where we dont need to work anymore, but at the same time it also gonna take away stuffs we enjoy today when AI will monotonize that action (like creating any art you want with a prompt).
I'm not going to read a word vomit.

Again, like you have with others in this conversation - you're misrepresenting what we're saying and just spewing forth whatever comes to your mind instead of actually responding to the comment presented.

I said:
You mistake common sense for "enthusiast." Those of us with calm minds aren't Pro AI -- we simply aren't rabid hyperbolists who think anyone with a differing opinion is "the enemy," even if the differing opinion is neither love nor hate, simply objectiveness.

Nothing you said was in anyway connected to what I said.
 

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For real now, people that are pro AI art, they really still believe they gonna enjoy art anymore once AI will start creating any art flawlessly and everyone can do it? we enjoy art because is made by an artists and we like the art he create and coz is something new, once everyone can do it, then it gonna lose all that what we wanted and everyone will go back to real porn/art. Is funny coz thats the reason a lot of people switched to hentai/2d/3d porn is coz internet is flooded with real porn or at least they got bored of it for a while.
 

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I'm not going to read a word vomit.

Again, like you have with others in this conversation - you're misrepresenting what we're saying and just spewing forth whatever comes to your mind instead of actually responding to the comment presented.

I said:
You mistake common sense for "enthusiast." Those of us with calm minds aren't Pro AI -- we simply aren't rabid hyperbolists who think anyone with a differing opinion is "the enemy," even if the differing opinion is neither love nor hate, simply objectiveness.

Nothing you said was in anyway connected to what I said.
But you threat people who is not on the same boat as you as enemies, interesting room temperature IQ take
 

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But you threat people who is not on the same boat as you as enemies, interesting room temperature IQ take
No, I do not.

Thank you for answering with a direct response.
For real now, people that are pro AI art, they really still believe they gonna enjoy art anymore once AI will start creating any art flawlessly and everyone can do it? we enjoy art because is made by an artists and we like the art he create and coz is something new, once everyone can do it, then it gonna lose all that what we wanted and everyone will go back to real porn/art. Is funny coz thats the reason a lot of people switched to hentai/2d/3d porn is coz internet is flooded with real porn or at least they got bored of it for a while.
How about answers from people who are not Pro AI art, but see it as a tool like other digital applications?

As one of those --

Yes, I already do enjoy art created by humans and will continue to do so. So much so that my eldest is at an a reputable art college studying for their career as an artist. Even with all the caveats you added to your question. yes.

If you are going to ask of people's opinions - just ask straight forward questions.

Just ask "Are you going to enjoy human-drawn art once AI generated art becomes commonplace?"

The answer is still yes.
 
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Again 0 examples, there has been proven 0 people that trully live a happy life with 0 downs coz its impossible ofc
I fail to see the need to waste time sourcing your tailored nonsense, you are also again ignoring the points made like you have in my previous replies...

most long term soccer fans they do it coz its a very good tool to bound with other people and go watch matches together
Source?

Yes thats the curent state, but I only talk about the future when programing/scripts etc will also be fully AI generated in seconds, literally games/VNs will just be made with a prompt, thats the end goal
First, the end goal for who?

Second, I thought it so obvious in your previous replies I didn't address it but it seems that was an oversight on my part....

The processing power needed in personal computers to allow an AI to create via a prompt and entire game is decades if not more away and even then you are conveniently leaving out some key details, once again showing you lack of understanding and knowledge base.

To start with, for an AI to create an entire game from scratch with just prompt inputs it would have to go one of two routes,

One : create an engine entirely from scratch for each type of game, this would then require debugging, alpha testing, beta testing, etc. and then would have to be compatibility checked not to mention getting signed etc.
NONE of which can be done by AI ANYTIME SOON

Two: Use an existing engine, at this point it invalidates you entire argument as the engine would first have to be acquired and the AI did NOT create the entire game alone via prompts.

Next, unless the music / sound industry and individuals give up all rights to copy right materials, it would again have to go one of two routes.

One, create from scratch all sound effects, sounds and music to add to the game

Two, use existing sound effects, sounds and music, again at this point it invalidates you entire argument as the sound effects, sounds and music would first have to be acquired and the AI did NOT create the entire game alone via prompts.

Your entire argument is based on you making stuff up and your lack of understanding and knowledge base.

But I know what happened 1000 years ago, and what happens right now in different parts of the world, I dont get ur point, you talk like a granma that still dont know what internet does
My point is you claimed
Well I actually give facts/examples to what I am saying
...and my point was you don't!

You realise handmade knifes were produced on x88888% scale than they are today right?
Notice you don't give a year, decade or century...wonder why that is?

and just coz you bring an article from 2023 that is still not even moving an inch to how much we had before and the fact that you dont even wanna accept that fact that handmade crafts demand went from 100% to under 1% today
Source on statistics of numbers made over the years and source on "went from 100% to under 1% today"

I'm not taking your word on that. I also did a search to see if you were right and couldn't find a single statistic.

Also ur example is so bad lol, we never had a program to automatize any art in 1 second and can be used by everyone with 0 experience
Firstly, you are the ONLY one placing the limit of 1 second on anything, your made up numbers don't concern me or anyone.

Secondly, you again show your lack of understanding and knowledge.

1) Printing of photographs went from dark rooms to download directly to pc
2) Programs like cad influenced the design world
3) Photoshop / illustrator did too




until AI we still only had artists that make art from 0


You know that statistically you should have gotten at least one thing right by now, it is astounding how you've managed to get everything so wrong....

but with AI you dont need to be an artists to make AI art
So the AI boots itself up one morning and decides it's going to have some java and spend the day making art? :rolleyes:

even a dog can mash his paw on a keyboard with an AI prompt open and create "art"
Source / Prove it

also is dumb to even use the AI and art together since technically by every deffinition AI art is not art nor you can be an artist if you are using AI to make the "art" for you.

" art, a visual object or experience consciously created through an expression of skill or imagination. "

So you are wrong again... you are wearing out my W R O N G A G A I N keys on my keyboard....
 
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