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What are some good like character ideas for an adult game? Possibly archetypal characters. I'm aiming to have a variety of different body types and personalities in mine.
 

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What are some good like character ideas for an adult game? Possibly archetypal characters. I'm aiming to have a variety of different body types and personalities in mine.
Before answering, two things. One, don't let archetypes be a crutch. No matter what you need to make each character feel alive. Two, Play Perverteer's Sisterly Lust. This game is a perfect example of using archetypes to create characters and then fleshing out those characters through dialogue and actions that support that initial archetype, I'm gonna direct you to this game a lot. That said:

Strong Slut - Obvious, though rarely pulled off well. This is a rare spot where I'll give Dark Silver his due, I think Kira is pretty well rounded, in spite of being the archetypal slut. She seems to genuinely care about her sister, Max, and Lisa. I make a joke about her in the parodies I'm writing, where I say she would be just like max if she'd been born with a dick. And that's what you should think like when writing a slut. Make her more like the MC of a game. Make her go after not just MC but others, for her own reasons, make those reasons interesting and show depth in her motivations.

Submissive Slut - Only good example of this that I can think of who doesn't first need to be corrupted is Alina from Sisterly Lust, though other games have tried this, like MotH with the older sister. What makes this character interesting is how you do it. SL drops hints that Alina isn't known to be fucking the entire school, unlike the other friend, strong slut character Anna. Make it so that she's really into the kink of hers, but a little ashamed of it, give her a reason to trust the MC with her body in such a way that she'd let herself be dominated by him when she wouldn't with everyone else.

Pure Angel
- Once again I'm gonna direct you to sisterly lust. The oldest sister in this games is a Curvy goddess, but she's also a virgin who's been dating the same guy since high school and is waiting for marriage. She's kind caring and very much loving. Her trepidation involving sex comes from a desire to make sex something she only does with someone she truly loves. She is very insecure as well, doesn't realize how beautiful she is, and worries about being seen as a slut. However she's not unwilling to let loose, she goes dancing with you, kisses you, and is convinced to open up her wardrobe to clothing that's not so conservative. She's never mean and doesn't completely freak out about things. You could also look to My Sweet Neighbors, the daughter is a perfect example of this as well.

Tsundere - Best example of this in western games, thus far, is the second oldest sister in Sisterly Lust, the dark haired one (forgive me I've renamed them on mine so I don't remember their actual names.) From the start she's angry you're even there, and as the game goes on the reasons for that are revealed, first, she's being blackmailed, so she's stressed out over that, and second, she was daddy's little girl, and you look just like him. Her reasons for disliking you initially are her anger at her dad for leaving her, her resentment of you for being the one who he chose, and the fact that she can't deny she's attracted to you. She's a bit insecure as well, though not as insecure as the Pure Angel, and will likely be a tougher egg to crack. For this category you could also look to anime. Most romance these days use a tsundere character and the male MC. Sometimes they'll play the tsundere against someone cute and sweet who the tsundere will realize she has to compete with, and this will make them open up. However the way Perverteer did it, with you helping her through her blackmail situation also works.

Beware, this trope is dangerous, see Dreams of Desire, Man of the House, and honestly, most Mom Sis Sis Son incest games, for some reason the older sister always hates the younger brother. Dreams of Desire seems to be backpeddling and making the older sister a bitch because of her insecurities, but it's very late in the game for that, so you already hate her. You don't want your players to hate the tusndere, you want her to come off as cute in spite of her rage.

Little Sister/childhood friend - Now, little sisters can be Tsundere too, but usually you'll see them show a lot of affection for their older brother. This girl is in love with the MC. She works in lots of ways, she could be a little sister Like Mia(View of Family) Sara (Milfy City) or Alice(Dreams of Desire), a girl next door/childhood friend Mia(Summertime Saga) and almost every harem anime has one of these, or another close family member like a Cousin, something you'll also see in a lot of anime.

There are definitely more ways to write characters out there. But this should be enough to get you started.
 

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My suggestion is to make a character (female... because... why not?) like Hannibal Lecter. A psychiatrist/psychologist that instead of creating/nurturing/instructing serial-killers, she makes depraved persons that would be acting by themselves, later on - having sex with their families, dominating young girls (legal age, of course), humiliating and so on... Then as the stories of Lecter, she would help to catch these molesters. Also, maybe some of them were accepted by their victims, which now enjoy new sexual life with their "predators". Just an idea, of course, but could work...
 

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Archetypes are okay, but if you really want to have a good game, you'll want to put a lot of individual effort into the character's personality and background and have sexuality and other traits flow from there.

For example, consider answering questions like the following: Did your character grow up in a big city or small town? Is your character from a good home or a bad one? A large family or a small one? Is your character intelligent? What are your characters hobbies, passions, interests?

Once you answer these questions, you can come up with experiences that defined your character and help flesh out who they are and why. Oh, she doesn't like her dad? Why? Because he would get black out drunk and assault her and her mother as a child and she's worried he's still attacking her mother. Much better and more interesting than "ME NO LIKE DAD, HE BAD." Simlarly, if you have a character who's passionate about early British Literature and can recite Blake and dreams of travelling to Britain, that's much more interesting than some who's just "Smart and good at school." The devil, as they say, is in the details.

Of course, you can make points like these come back around to your character's sexuality as well. Small town girl, living in a lonely world? Maybe that explains some of her sexual inexperience, OR, maybe she's become shy because she dared to have sex once and it got COMPLETELY around the entire community right away because it's so small. Or maybe everyone knows and she doesn't care? These are all options, but ones you should consider to make your characters more than just paper dolls with superficial personalities.
 

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Powerful Lezdom Protagonist: Both physically and mentally strong, she seeks other women to dominate. She protects those in her care but demands obedience in exchange. She sees male characters as enemies rather than potential mates. She literally tears to pieces anyone who tries to rape her or one of her girls and does so easily without any sense of fear. She has some super powers at her disposal which could come from either cybernetic implants or magic, depending on the setting. She is visibly somewhere from 25 to 35, but could be younger (in a science-fiction setting) or much older (in a fantasy setting). She doesn't necessarily look like a body builder but her physical strength does not go un-noticed either. Such a character works best in a cyberpunk or dark fantasy setting. Prefered outfits involve black leather.

The Not-So-Decent housewife: To an outsider she is a typical middle class housewife and caring mother, who leads a decent middle class life. But of course that is only the surface. She has a lot of hidden desires and in the course of the game she has the chance to fulfill her forbidden dreams - and they don't involve sex with the plumber, because the plumber is just as boring as her husband. This would come natural for an incest game, but for any other fetish too. Maybe she wants sex with another woman for the first time and tries some bdsm in the process, that would be my choice. But she could also work as a stripper or prostitute. The not-so-decent housewife is around 40 years, married and has one or two grown children. She is modestly dressed in the beginning, but wears anything (or nothing) in the later stages of the game. In domination scenarios she's much better suited for the submissive roles.

The Evil Cutie:
From the ouside she is the most innocent 18-year old girl you will ever meet. She wears pink dresses with flowers and always has a smile on her face. She appears naive and she knows quite well that she does and she uses this to her advantage in the most cruel fashion possible. She is a master of manipulation and as sadist and sociopath of the worst kind who enjoys inciting people against each other. While the powerful lezdom protagonist seeks to dominate other, the evil cutie wants to destroy them. She doesn't care wether her victims are male or female, she just enjoys exploiting their feelings. She has no problems seducing both her parents and thereby blackmailing them both, whoring her mother to the neighborhood and sending her father into life threatening crimes to improve her income.

The Parody: A lot of porn games are parodies of regular games, so this character archetype is just a character who looks very similar and has a similar name as a character from a regular game or movie. So this could be anything from Lara Crotch to Blowonetta, Princess Bitch to the Bitcher.
 

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Before answering, two things. One, don't let archetypes be a crutch. No matter what you need to make each character feel alive. Two, Play Perverteer's Sisterly Lust. This game is a perfect example of using archetypes to create characters and then fleshing out those characters through dialogue and actions that support that initial archetype, I'm gonna direct you to this game a lot. That said:

Strong Slut - Obvious, though rarely pulled off well. This is a rare spot where I'll give Dark Silver his due, I think Kira is pretty well rounded, in spite of being the archetypal slut. She seems to genuinely care about her sister, Max, and Lisa. I make a joke about her in the parodies I'm writing, where I say she would be just like max if she'd been born with a dick. And that's what you should think like when writing a slut. Make her more like the MC of a game. Make her go after not just MC but others, for her own reasons, make those reasons interesting and show depth in her motivations.

Submissive Slut - Only good example of this that I can think of who doesn't first need to be corrupted is Alina from Sisterly Lust, though other games have tried this, like MotH with the older sister. What makes this character interesting is how you do it. SL drops hints that Alina isn't known to be fucking the entire school, unlike the other friend, strong slut character Anna. Make it so that she's really into the kink of hers, but a little ashamed of it, give her a reason to trust the MC with her body in such a way that she'd let herself be dominated by him when she wouldn't with everyone else.

Pure Angel
- Once again I'm gonna direct you to sisterly lust. The oldest sister in this games is a Curvy goddess, but she's also a virgin who's been dating the same guy since high school and is waiting for marriage. She's kind caring and very much loving. Her trepidation involving sex comes from a desire to make sex something she only does with someone she truly loves. She is very insecure as well, doesn't realize how beautiful she is, and worries about being seen as a slut. However she's not unwilling to let loose, she goes dancing with you, kisses you, and is convinced to open up her wardrobe to clothing that's not so conservative. She's never mean and doesn't completely freak out about things. You could also look to My Sweet Neighbors, the daughter is a perfect example of this as well.

Tsundere - Best example of this in western games, thus far, is the second oldest sister in Sisterly Lust, the dark haired one (forgive me I've renamed them on mine so I don't remember their actual names.) From the start she's angry you're even there, and as the game goes on the reasons for that are revealed, first, she's being blackmailed, so she's stressed out over that, and second, she was daddy's little girl, and you look just like him. Her reasons for disliking you initially are her anger at her dad for leaving her, her resentment of you for being the one who he chose, and the fact that she can't deny she's attracted to you. She's a bit insecure as well, though not as insecure as the Pure Angel, and will likely be a tougher egg to crack. For this category you could also look to anime. Most romance these days use a tsundere character and the male MC. Sometimes they'll play the tsundere against someone cute and sweet who the tsundere will realize she has to compete with, and this will make them open up. However the way Perverteer did it, with you helping her through her blackmail situation also works.

Beware, this trope is dangerous, see Dreams of Desire, Man of the House, and honestly, most Mom Sis Sis Son incest games, for some reason the older sister always hates the younger brother. Dreams of Desire seems to be backpeddling and making the older sister a bitch because of her insecurities, but it's very late in the game for that, so you already hate her. You don't want your players to hate the tusndere, you want her to come off as cute in spite of her rage.

Little Sister/childhood friend - Now, little sisters can be Tsundere too, but usually you'll see them show a lot of affection for their older brother. This girl is in love with the MC. She works in lots of ways, she could be a little sister Like Mia(View of Family) Sara (Milfy City) or Alice(Dreams of Desire), a girl next door/childhood friend Mia(Summertime Saga) and almost every harem anime has one of these, or another close family member like a Cousin, something you'll also see in a lot of anime.

There are definitely more ways to write characters out there. But this should be enough to get you started.
While I can't say anything about the characters in the example, I somehow find the term "strong slut" awkward. To me sluttyness somehow involves a high level of submissiveness. Maybe it's just a semantic difference or I get the meaning of the word wrong (I'm not a native English speaker after all) but in case of a strong woman who changes her sexual partners on a daily or hourly basis, I wouldn't use the word slut.
 
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Girl-next-door type: Shy, bookish, quiet girl. Maybe the protagonist has known her since they were kids, they grew up together, were best friends, that sort of thing. She's got a mega crush on them, but won't reveal it.
 

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These are some good character ideas, I think I have a couple of these. I was also sort of wondering how people might decide on the physical appearance based on personality. As I said I wanna include a variety of characters lookswise. Also does anyone ever base things like for example a character's pube style based on their personality or like how do you decide when you're making the character? (I know, strange question lol but I'm having trouble deciding with some of mine.)
 

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To be honest, I just go by personal preference. Body type really has no correlation to personality with the exception that taller and/or chunkier girls tend to get picked on more than the tiny sticks, which might make them more shy or un-trusting from that perspective. But your character might also be a tall basketball star who had a lot of friends and is generally gregarious, so it's really how you shape it.

Variety is the spice of life and diversifying your characters' looks will definitely help you out, though! Just don't be afraid to mix and match body and personality, as long as the personality makes sense from a developmental standpoint!

As far as pubes go, it's really, again, just personal preference. Some girls feel cleaner or sexier shaving completely, while others feel just the opposite. There's a generally preconceived notion that "sluttier" girls shave or wax extensively and/or completely, but it's not been my experience that that's true in real life, and certainly doesn't need to be the case in your game. But, it also could be if you want it to be! As with body type, I just suggest some variety.
 

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To be honest, I just go by personal preference. Body type really has no correlation to personality with the exception that taller and/or chunkier girls tend to get picked on more than the tiny sticks, which might make them more shy or un-trusting from that perspective. But your character might also be a tall basketball star who had a lot of friends and is generally gregarious, so it's really how you shape it.

Variety is the spice of life and diversifying your characters' looks will definitely help you out, though! Just don't be afraid to mix and match body and personality, as long as the personality makes sense from a developmental standpoint!

As far as pubes go, it's really, again, just personal preference. Some girls feel cleaner or sexier shaving completely, while others feel just the opposite. There's a generally preconceived notion that "sluttier" girls shave or wax extensively and/or completely, but it's not been my experience that that's true in real life, and certainly doesn't need to be the case in your game. But, it also could be if you want it to be! As with body type, I just suggest some variety.
Yeah obviously like as in real life personality doesn't tend to determine these things, it's tricky for me to decide but I guess I'll see how the characters go when it comes to it and I get to that point of development
 

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While I can't say anything about the characters in the example, I somehow find the term "strong slut" awkward. To me sluttyness somehow involves a high level of submissiveness. Maybe it's just a semantic difference or I get the meaning of the word wrong (I'm not a native English speaker after all) but in case of a strong woman who changes her sexual partners on a daily or hourly basis, I wouldn't use the word slut.
Slut is just an insult for a promiscuous girl. I'm guessing your definition of it comes from its use in "corruption" games where the girl is dominated and humiliated by calling her a slut. The thing is, that word has to mean something outside the corruption/domination context to hold any weight, and what that is, is a woman who has a lot of casual sex.
 
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I agree that body and personality have only a little correlation in reality, but this being a game it's also important to use the visuals to help convey a message. In this case the main question you have to ask yourself is 'what do the player should see in this girl?', even more important than the body type is the presentation: what kind of clothes she wear? Piercing, dyed hair? Does she go to the gym? Tanlines, hairstyle, expressions, shoes and all that sort of details. Even the camera angle helps, like looking up to someone gives a certain intimidation or superiority to the person.

That said, a tsundere without blonde pigtails is a waste of bytes.
 

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What are some good like character ideas for an adult game? Possibly archetypal characters. I'm aiming to have a variety of different body types and personalities in mine.
Body types do not always translate to personality... Sounds like you are asking for a generic list of personalities that match to specific body types... Which would be like stereotyping someone based on their body proportions, rather then their actual personality...

What makes folks so different from one another is not just their biology but their experiences, education, and how that translates to and from folks he/she hangs around (forced and/or unforced)...

Selecting good characters for an adult game should be based on what type of game you are making, to include any stories/plots you plan to include... We could list off character types till the cows come home, but none may have any real bearing on the game you plan to make... Could you be more specific on what type of adult game you are making? Because you really should be relying on your own creativity and story making talents to determine what types of characters you need, not on the general public to dictate all that for you, because you'll just keep getting a never ending list of personality types mostly based on what those individuals desire, rather then what you may actually need for your game... It's not a good sign that you can't come up with your own list, unless this is just for general ideas for filler characters that have no real bearing on the story/plot of your game?

Here is a list of highly overused personality types I've seen:

- The older/younger sister that shows a lot of anger and hate towards the protagonist, for no good reason...
- The mother who is lonely and just needs some affection, and also likes to have the protagonist do a lot of house chores (that and/or help with house finances)...
- The younger/older sister who just absolutely adores the protagonist but is very virginal/naïve/innocent/inexperienced
- The boyfriend of a sibling, mother, or love interest who is just using them for sex and is typically a jerk, and for some unknown reason they can't see it or are unwilling to do anything about it, without the protagonists involvement
- The female best friend of a main female character, who is highly sexual and constantly tries to corrupt her friend, or pushs them (the main female character) in the direction of the protagonist just for kicks...
- The highly submissive and cowardly protagonist who, for some reason, can't stand up to bullies or do anything about his/her love interests being cuckold (these just make me want to scream)...
- The cuckold male character who can't be stopped at all, or takes far too much effort to stop... (another makes me want to scream)
- Adult characters that just can't seem to stop acting like a teenager with out of control hormones...
- College/University students that act like they are in High School...
- High School students in a High School setting that for some miraculous reason are all adult age, somehow, without plausible explanation as to how or why...
 
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Slut is just an insult for a promiscuous girl. I'm guessing your definition of it comes from its use in "corruption" games where the girl is dominated and humiliated by calling her a slut. The thing is, that word has to mean something outside the corruption/domination context to hold any weight, and what that is, is a woman who has a lot of casual sex.
I have not found the word in any game yet but I've heard it in movies both porn and regular movies, and as an insult on social media. In porn only applied to submissive women and in other media mostly applied to submissive women or at least with the assumption of weakness and depending on sexual partners. For a strong woman who has casual sex I often heard the word bitch but not once slut. In German we don't have the distinction at all, both would be called "Schlampe". Maybe I assumed the distiction to be more severe than it is in English.
 

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I have not found the word in any game yet but I've heard it in movies both porn and regular movies, and as an insult on social media. In porn only applied to submissive women and in other media mostly applied to submissive women or at least with the assumption of weakness and depending on sexual partners. For a strong woman who has casual sex I often heard the word bitch but not once slut.
Sometimes people use words like those because they heard them in a movie or on TV or a friend used them... I find it hilarious when so many people have no actual clue what they really mean or how the words came into existence at all... They just throw them about without really understanding them...

Here are some sources for what the words really mean and their history:

Slut







Bitch





 
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I knew the origins, but I didn't know that slut could be used for strong independent women as well as for submissive ones, if they have enough casual sex.
 

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Body types do not always translate to personality... Sounds like you are asking for a generic list of personalities that match to specific body types... Which would be like stereotyping someone based on their body proportions, rather then their actual personality...

What makes folks so different from one another is not just their biology but their experiences, education, and how that translates to and from folks he/she hangs around (forced and/or unforced)...

Selecting good characters for an adult game should be based on what type of game you are making, to include any stories/plots you plan to include... We could list off character types till the cows come home, but none may have any real bearing on the game you plan to make... Could you be more specific on what type of adult game you are making? Because you really should be relying on your own creativity and story making talents to determine what types of characters you need, not on the general public to dictate all that for you, because you'll just keep getting a never ending list of personality types mostly based on what those individuals desire, rather then what you may actually need for your game... It's not a good sign that you can't come up with your own list, unless this is just for general ideas for filler characters that have no real bearing on the story/plot of your game?

Here is a list of highly overused personality types I've seen:

- The older/younger sister that shows a lot of anger and hate towards the protagonist, for no good reason...
- The mother who is lonely and just needs some affection, and also likes to have the protagonist do a lot of house chores (that and/or help with house finances)...
- The younger/older sister who just absolutely adores the protagonist but is very virginal/naïve/innocent/inexperienced
- The boyfriend of a sibling, mother, or love interest who is just using them for sex and is typically a jerk, and for some unknown reason they can't see it or are unwilling to do anything about it, without the protagonists involvement
- The female best friend of a main female character, who is highly sexual and constantly tries to corrupt her friend, or pushs them (the main female character) in the direction of the protagonist just for kicks...
- The highly submissive and cowardly protagonist who, for some reason, can't stand up to bullies or do anything about his/her love interests being cuckold (these just make me want to scream)...
- The cuckold male character who can't be stopped at all, or takes far too much effort to stop... (another makes me want to scream)
- Adult characters that just can't seem to stop acting like a teenager with out of control hormones...
- College/University students that act like they are in High School...
- High School students in a High School setting that for some miraculous reason are all adult age, somehow, without plausible explanation as to how or why...
The game is sort of sandbox so as for having them any bearing on the main plot, it's complicated. With the main goals of the game since there is some storyline, I've more or less got the characters that are involved in that so I guess mainly I'm looking for girls you could meet at the High School, around town etc.
 

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The Whore with a Heart of Gold: Being a sex worker doesn't one a bad person. This character listens to the MCs problems and often provides advice or information. She cares for family and friends and tries to be a decent person in every walk of life, despite working in a job that normally isn't associated with decency. She may even go as far and refuse to serve customers whom she knows to be a relationship. In an incest game she could be the MC's mom or aunt.

The Sleazy Pimp:
A disgusting creature both inward and outward he exploits his girls in every way imaginable. He has gelled hair, wears expensive clothes and a lot of rings and necklaces. Of course he drives the biggest car in town. Maybe the MCs sister or mom has or had to work for him. He is a potential villain for various genres of porn games. To keep the game attractive to a lot of players I wouldn't show him in any sex scenes though, only impliing his perversions. He could appear as a typical villain who is killed at the end of the game like in regular games. This would be the case in an incest game where the MC's mom is the whore with a heart of gold. The Powerful Lezdom Protagonist mentioned in my post above could also rip his head off in an early stage of the game, butcher all his allies and become the new ruler of his underground empire. Maybe for some more twisted game, the Sleazy Pimp could even be an MC.

The Shapeshifter: Man, woman, futa or even animal. This character has the magic power to assume any shape possible and is willing to have sex in any shape possible.

The Patronizing Elder Sister: Despite the MC being an adult for several years, she refuses to treat him as equal. When she was a child was better at school than the protagonist and the parents always told him to see her as an example. Despite this being an long ago and despite him learning the lessions of life, she still sees him as the boy she used to scold so many years ago.

The Gothic Girl: She always dresses in black and wears make-up that gives her an eerie look. She is highly intelligent and slightly elitist. Regardless of the MC's gender, look and status she is one of the most difficult characters to seduce in any game. Money and power wont do the job, she only accepts characters with a similar attitude to life and an equal or higher intellect.

The Trophy Wife: Greedy and not too bright but somewhat good looking, she only cares for her partner's money and social status. Not good at anything but smiling and fucking she is unreliable anywhere else. She could also appear in a variety of games. She could be an easy addition to a harem game. In a more sinister version of an incest game she could be the MC's mother. The MC then takes revenge on her for the shitty way she treated him or her many years ago.

The Succubus: This one is pretty much self-explaining, a demon of seduction. Male version would be an incubus. A vampire could play a similar role.

The Closeted-Submissive Strong Woman: From the outside she is a strong, independent woman in every way. She could be a warrior in shining armor, super heroine, amazon, politician or (mad) scientist. But deep down inside she likes being on bottom from time to time, maybe even being in bondage or receiving a hard spanking. Of course she wouldn't tell anyone and most likely she would mercylessly kill anyone who finds out against her will. Of course she would be one of the more difficult characters to get into a relationship with. The first challenge would be finding out about her secret, while the second would be presenting it to her in fashions that makes her desire the MC instead of killing her or him. In a game with the Powerful Lezdom Protagonist the Closeted-Submissive Strong Woman could appear as the main antagonist for most of the game, while submitting to the protagonist in the final scenes of the game.

The Sex-Bot: A cyborg specifically designed for sex with a variety of kinks and fetishes. In a fantasy setting a golem could have a similar role.
 

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The Lesbian Looking for a Challenge: When this lesbian is looking for girls she wont go to a lesbian bar or use a lesbian dating app. That's because she enjoys a challenge. The wife of a pastor, a conservative female politician, a nun or a girl who wears a purity ring are more to her liking. She basically specializes in seducing women who would never admit having being into girls. While she could be an antagonist to a male MC, she is much better as the protagonist of her own game. The make the game more exciting she better doesn't have access to drugs or mind control powers, though she may use the occasional blackmail. She works best in real world settings. Fantasy settings, were most women are lesbian or bi don't go well with this archetype, because lesbian sex should be some sort of a taboo for the women she seduces.