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Ren'Py Cheat Chat [v0.04] [Faker's Lab]

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kgirlffx

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Oh Gudil... we are almost on the same page... 1 yeah the minigame is annoying, yeah It will be fixed I didn't have time to fix it, you didn't think that was the final minigame state right?

You want gifs, the next guy wants video, then comes another dude asking for VR support... when it comes to media one can go as cheap as it is needed to transmit an idea... Nevertheless the less yeah Gudil I'm planning to add gifs, I bet you understand we are dealing with state-of-the-art technology...

And to reply to number 3 wich is the one I disagree with you. I'm not aware of how many Patreon channels you've managed before, but to attract new patrons you need an incentive, you see if you check around on F95 you see tons of creators with good games complaining about having 0 patrons, on the contrary, we are having a solid start, with enough money to at least buy a decent meal and pay for gas, people have to eat my man, bills stack up, and making games is not easy at all...

The important thing now is to keep improving and to stay consistent in delivering a better and bigger game each month for our patrons.
But don't worry I will always have something for the ones that can't afford to pay as I was broke most of my life :cool:(y)

And thanks for the Engrish thing, you are a kind soul ;)

Blocking off an entire path for Patreon money seems a bit much, but hey, if it's working it's working.

More power to you.

I'll probably skip this one for now since I don't have the money to support more games and I don't like knowing I'm missing out on a lot of content over such an issue, but in general, it's your game, so don't let people try to shame you over monetizing it.

I'll keep a general eye on this though for if my financial situation changes or if when complete I can just buy the entire game at once.

GL with development.
 
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kgirlffx

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So basically Dev is acting like Activision/Blizzard, gotcha !

If you need to eat, you get a job (not saying that in a rude way). Then if you like porn, NTR, eroticism and such (like all of us), and you'd like to make a fan game, you do it as a hobby. If that hobby has potential, you can go on patreon and see how things go.

But putting a paywall in a Demo, yeah no, ain't no way I'm gonna give a cent.
I don't pledge money in a fan game to see more in a demo (and god knows how many I've supported.)

I play the first iterations of the game, and then, if the game is good, not only me, but tons of people will see it, and pledge, and you'll build up a good reputation over time.

I stay away from games that block full paths instead of just release version earlier for Patreon.
The audacity to justifying yourself about economy on a piracy site is very ironic and poetic in a way =P.

"Tons of great creators complain about not having enough Patreon".

Wrong. If the game's good, they'll get Patreon members, full stop. If they have time and audacity to complain about that (especially here...), maybe they should use that fervor to lower their ego and ask themselves "Maybe my game isn't as great as I thought".

I feel like hearing the same story we had with HoleHouse. Yeah, he got Patreons, but is seen as an absolute jerk scamming weak minded people.

But to each their own, not judging, just assessing.

Best of luck!

While I understand your mentality in general, as I too will be staying clear due to not wanting an entire path blocked, it is a viable monetization method and we're not owed anything more.

It's not microtransactions, it's not bad business. It's just not as friendly as most games are.

I think he entering this with the wrong mindset, and he will not have nearly as large of a following due to it, but that's on him. In short, it's bad PR and a bad way to build up a fan base, but in no way is it scamming people or being unethical.

This is no different than most Early Access Games in general. Frankly, a lot of developers actively dislike that their stuff is pirated, but they don't see a way around it without getting the kind of response this guy is getting, so they just go for the paid early version and hope no one steals it.
 
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Tecton

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I'm not gonna pretend I'm not judging dude, but you have no idea how dev reality works, I'm not afraid of being seen as an asshole for charging for my work... Because believe it or not this is my job ‍♂ it has been for several years and I fucking love it... I might die on my desk working and I'm happy about it.

I love the idea you have of how Patreon works, I wish it was like that but you are not even close... If a game is good it means that there's work and time behind it but it doesn't guarantee you'll get patrons, that depends on advertising, marketing strategy and luck.

It's so funny you mentioned scamming the week minded... Like WTF? I guess you say it just to imply you are strong minded... On question... When you are at the supermarket and get a free sample you feel scammed for not getting the whole thing for free? That's entitlement bro...

Look it is a free sample, if you like it and you have 5 bucks to spare support it, if you just need to get it for free then crack it or download a cracked version... It's F95 piracy is my friend... I even left it ready to be cracked

Also, you are judging and there's nothing wrong with that... I'm judging you too and that's completely fine

Thanks for taking your time to write bro I really appreciate it, no hurt feeling ✊
Yeah, just respond to valid criticism with open hostility and blatant arrogance. That'll win people over.

It's not like it hasn't ended badly when devs try to chest puff at the users on this site.

This is genuinely pathetic. You've proven that not only do you lack anything even resembling development talent, you also lack the most basic understanding of how to not shit from the mouth.

Good luck, you're gonna fucking need it.
 
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This game has a lot of potental but their are a lot of issues.

The story does not come off genuine and natural specifically for a game that seems to be based of sharing and cuckold and cheating elements. No character building at all for the charactors.
The mc is one minute iffy about the boss then next he is hell yeah dude go for it screw her.
Their is not enough Internal Strife of the MC and what he is feeling with these potental fetishes he is experiencing. The writting in general needs an overhaul in my perspective of a potental consumer.

now on positive note the design of the game mechanics is not bad and simple. Personally I do not care about the wait time it is fine in my book.
I do not like that you are covering the eyes of the main female cast though.

I also do not care or have a problem so much for the patreon Exclusivity a lot of devs do this. However what might help is a timed exclusivity and make the scene free in the following update or 2 and make another time exclusivity quest as its replacement and cycle that way.
 
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kgirlffx

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Yeah, just respond to valid criticism with open hostility and blatant arrogance. That'll win people over.

It's not like it hasn't ended badly when devs try to chest puff at the users on this site.

This is genuinely pathetic. You've proven that not only do you lack anything even resembling development talent, you also lack the most basic understanding of how to not shit from the mouth.

Good luck, you're gonna fucking need it.

Dude, you clearly attacked him first. Should he have responded, no. But in the post you claim you're not judging him you slandered him, accused him of being scummy, called him names, etc.

You can't drop a s#*$ post rant at someone, then say, "Not judging," to erase it.

Again, not super professional for him to hit back with snark, but yeah, stop pretending it came out of the clear blue.
 

Mrdeadbird

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Needs bit more polishing. I don't mind "mobile" format in games, there are some examples of where it works really well.

The awaiting and click part was bit more on the frustrating side of things. But the AI renders where not bad at all.
This might just be me, but I always find patreon locked content to be one of the most annoying things I see in game. I understand the need to have some sort of bonus for the supporters.

However, gated/locked content just rubs me in wrong way. And at least for me, I do not want to support that creator usually. Try looking into other ways of rewarding the patreons (credits, vote for focus on next patch or sidestory, teases of what's next, etc etc)

Aside from this, this do got some promise in it, but do need a bit of polishing to shine. As mentioned before, I think AI model is very sweet, I would for sure look at Devorny and Bloody Ink (A Wife's Phone and Husband's Phone) for some inspirations.
Polishing is urgent
 
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Mrdeadbird

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I really hate when that's happend, have 0 logic. As you say, feels so weird. I dont understand how the developers keep failing in that thing. When the MC begin to enjoy be a cuck is like the game loose all. (n) The games dont looks bad, I hope the developer can change that and give a more realistic experience with more logic, is hot when the MC is cucked without he's know what happend.
Dude I completely agree... that's one of the parts that annoys me the most about the current version... that transition needs to be smother, that's one of the things I'll be working on
 

Mrdeadbird

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I don't like the clicking part (maybe if it was 6 times instead of 32 it would be better)
I hope the Dev will always be too lazy :)
yeah that clicker system is just a placeholder, an old system from a previous prototype, I hope to replace it for something shorter and more engaging
 

Mrdeadbird

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Dude, you clearly attacked him first. Should he have responded, no. But in the post you claim you're not judging him you slandered him, accused him of being scummy, called him names, etc.

You can't drop a s#*$ post rant at someone, then say, "Not judging," to erase it.

Again, not super professional for him to hit back with snark, but yeah, stop pretending it came out of the clear blue.
Thanks, bro, yeah in the past I would have not responded... But I've realized there's an upside to standing your ground and showing that you care... otherwise, you end up with a forum full of people shiting on you and even tho that doesn't affect me personally it does affect the image of the game.

And I totally agree, you can't drop a s#*$ post rant at someone, then say, "Not judging," to erase it...
 

Mrdeadbird

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This game has a lot of potental but their are a lot of issues.

The story does not come off genuine and natural specifically for a game that seems to be based of sharing and cuckold and cheating elements. No character building at all for the charactors.
The mc is one minute iffy about the boss then next he is hell yeah dude go for it screw her.
Their is not enough Internal Strife of the MC and what he is feeling with these potental fetishes he is experiencing. The writting in general needs an overhaul in my perspective of a potental consumer.

now on positive note the design of the game mechanics is not bad and simple. Personally I do not care about the wait time it is fine in my book.
I do not like that you are covering the eyes of the main female cast though.

I also do not care or have a problem so much for the patreon Exclusivity a lot of devs do this. However what might help is a timed exclusivity and make the scene free in the following update or 2 and make another time exclusivity quest as its replacement and cycle that way.
Thanks, bro, that's exactly what I've been doing with my other games, there will be more free content when we get more content in general.
 

proudmoore91

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Dude I completely agree... that's one of the parts that annoys me the most about the current version... that transition needs to be smother, that's one of the things I'll be working on
Oh, thats sounds great. The game looks great, I like the mobile phone style. The only thing I'd change was that. For me is so hot when the MC is cucked without knowing it. Give a tons of option to make epic moments like subtle details, clues, etc. When you already know what is happening, it loses the emotion, it is usually the part of the game that bores me the most, I prefer mystery and small details hehe, I'll keep an eye in your game, I really believe can be a great game. Happy Christmass friend! :giggle:
 
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Yeah, just respond to valid criticism with open hostility and blatant arrogance. That'll win people over.

It's not like it hasn't ended badly when devs try to chest puff at the users on this site.

This is genuinely pathetic. You've proven that not only do you lack anything even resembling development talent, you also lack the most basic understanding of how to not shit from the mouth.

Good luck, you're gonna fucking need it.
Well my friend this is not my first rodeo, and I do respect my people from F95 most of the people here are cool, I've gotten used to guys like you, they come a dime a dozen when you are developing stuff.

The cool thing is that there are always more people supporting and giving actual useful ideas than the ones just shitting on others's work...
Anyway, I shouldn't waste any more of my here. These games do not code themselves and I need to go back to work.

I hope to have a new update before the end of the year :cool: (y)
 

Tecton

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Dude, you clearly attacked him first. Should he have responded, no. But in the post you claim you're not judging him you slandered him, accused him of being scummy, called him names, etc.

You can't drop a s#*$ post rant at someone, then say, "Not judging," to erase it.

Again, not super professional for him to hit back with snark, but yeah, stop pretending it came out of the clear blue.
...I'm not the one who 'ranted' at him. All I did was call him out for his response to someone criticizing him.

If you're going to try to 'get me', at least be fucking accurate, jeez.

Well my friend this is not my first rodeo, and I do respect my people from F95 most of the people here are cool, I've gotten used to guys like you, they come a dime a dozen when you are developing stuff.

The cool thing is that there are always more people supporting and giving actual useful ideas than the ones just shitting on others's work...
Anyway, I shouldn't waste any more of my here. These games do not code themselves and I need to go back to work.

I hope to have a new update before the end of the year :cool: (y)
See, that was a good response to criticism.
 

kgirlffx

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Thanks, bro, yeah in the past I would have not responded... But I've realized there's an upside to standing your ground and showing that you care... otherwise, you end up with a forum full of people shiting on you and even tho that doesn't affect me personally it does affect the image of the game.

And I totally agree, you can't drop a s#*$ post rant at someone, then say, "Not judging," to erase it...

Fair enough. I generally think it's best to just ignore people when they go too negative, but up to you.
 

kgirlffx

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...I'm not the one who 'ranted' at him. All I did was call him out for his response to someone criticizing him.

If you're going to try to 'get me', at least be fucking accurate, jeez.


See, that was a good response to criticism.
Oh, you're right. You had nothing to say but attack, not even criticism. The other guy was the one who at least had something constructive mixed in. My bad.

So you're worse than the other guy? I mean, at least they added to the discussion. You just lashed out at someone who responded in kind whilst ignoring the initial offense.

Anyway, moving on from this. GL HF
 
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OpiumDew7

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please take it easy on this dev, he has a few games he's abandoned in early stages but whenever he actually sticks to a project for a long period you can see he puts alot of passion into the development. I understand why people would be hesitant to pay for what seems to be an experimental side project from him but there's no reason to give him so much hate for trying to make a living pursuing this stuff. you guys are kind of irrational in that you expect quality and passion from devs but also seem to resent them for expecting compensation for their work.
 
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