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Fuckin lol. You'd have to kill me before making me drink something like that. Fire me first.
Agree with that.

Tbh I have a lot of gripes with how exactly these worlds are supposed to work. Yeah, obviously there's a lot of people who'd just not take it, but what's to stop people from being malicious with it? And if you can rearrange mass like that, it's not a stretch to make a version that just causes you to "TF" into a melted puddle, or grow a bunch of lesions on your vital organs. At least one person/country would be at least trying to see if that's possible. Also, how does pregancy work? Is the child born human, or the species of the mother?
I assume the answer is just "don't think about it too hard" but c'mon, we can't have a little thought put into the big picture?
 

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yea i get ur point but then its supposed to be just a charming visual novel. but then everything here is magic and maybe wont cause abominations. So its like Rick and Morty, what about the timeline where H*lter cured cancer, the answer is dont think about it
 
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Even if you ignore the incomplete routes and the incomplete art this game feels like a downgrade from Mice tea in every way possible. I guess they got bored and lost all motivation and just wanted to end the game. I don't like to be too harsh but I feel its needed when devs go backwards. At least crossed signals has potential as long as they allow some variety in each route. Its been good so far.

However with this game I had low expectations when I heard it was complete so I thought I was prepared but this game was worse than I could imagine. The ending was abrupt and felt like none of the choices I made mattered in this game. Also sucks to know the canon ending of Mice tea is an ending we cannot even do. I would have preferred if this game never existed we got DLC for a Mice Tea harem route and then got a sequel because the daily lives of Gavin/Gabby and Margaret seem a lot more interesting than whatever this story was meant to be.

I will do a more in depth review of this later on but I really did expect better from this dev team. Mice tea was so good too.
 
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mice tea is good cuz its not just the protag transformation to mouse only, it also follows the side character with their own story like the raccoon burglary, Felicia tg and the snake hypno, aka more themes while this is just abt the protag with his transgender experience and feelings
 
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It's completed? Or ONE route is completed?
The neutral route ending is in. The second and third date options for the LI aren't finished yet, so your only choice currently is to just do the first date with all three.

However with this game I had low expectations when I heard it was complete so I thought I was prepared but this game was worse than I could imagine. The ending was abrupt and felt like none of the choices I made mattered in this game.
The ending felt well paced for me, even though I resumed from a save just before the final act. I'm guessing part of the feeling of choices not mattering is that you're forced into the neutral ending since the character specific routes are incomplete. Also if you go back and look at Mice Tea's structure it's actually fairly linear, the only decisions that alter the flow of the story are which route you pick in the prologue and the choices that bad/neutral end you. Everything else is just scene variants, and only 2 of the 4 routes even have that.
Also sucks to know the canon ending of Mice tea is an ending we cannot even do.
But yes, we do need an update where you can play the true harem route after completing all 4 of the normal routes. Seriously, Sonic games had this figured out in '98.
 

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I had really high hopes for this dev team as I think Crossed signals has been a lot of fun so far. I really enjoyed Mice tea and can only hope this game was an example of a dev team being too ambitious trying to manage multiple games. Hopefully this game can just be pushed to the side for other new content or Crossed signals can be turned into a fantastic game. I am not sure if this game can be saved unless they completely redo the ending.
 
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Even if you ignore the incomplete routes and the incomplete art

However with this game I had low expectations when I heard it was complete
Hopefully this game can just be pushed to the side for either new content
So, um, did you miss the "0.8" version number in the thread title and the big "Early Access Version" sticker on the title screen?
The game is not done yet.
This is not the final version.

There are almost certainly going to be other endings besides the neutral one.
 
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Wow they very obviously lost interest in developing this lmfao. Im assuming cinnamon switch just came to the conclusion they had to dedicate their time to ONE game instead of both and just quickly threw together a way to end the story
 
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So, um, did you miss the "0.8" version number in the thread title and the big "Early Access Version" sticker on the title screen?
The game is not done yet.
This is not the final version.

There are almost certainly going to be other endings besides the neutral one.
I hope you are right and its good your optimistic about this don't let my negativity take away from your enjoyment but I have seen enough games on this website to know the trajectory of this game to its final version and it doesn't look good. You clearly liked the twist towards the end and felt the story was building up to it while I completely disagree and feel it disrespected the character progression and the choices we made. I stand by my statements and my review and hope to be proven wrong but I doubt that will happen.
 

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The neutral/normal ending isn't bad but i really hope Felicia have some involvement in one of the other route
 
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You clearly liked the twist towards the end
Wait, there was a twist? Oh, I guess people who never got the post-credits scene in Mice Tea wouldn't have known from the start that Leo was Enby.
I'm honestly not sure that could have been handled differently. I'm not sure there's a way to pad out the final segment without it feeling like padding. I feel like having them mope a few more days, decide they're male, and have the tea force them back to female again before they finally figure out what's going on wouldn't have added anything but runtime. At least for the neutral route, on one of the character specific routes where they have a love interest to play off of maybe it could work.
 

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Wait, there was a twist? Oh, I guess people who never got the post-credits scene in Mice Tea wouldn't have known from the start that Leo was Enby.
I'm honestly not sure that could have been handled differently. I'm not sure there's a way to pad out the final segment without it feeling like padding. I feel like having them mope a few more days, decide they're male, and have the tea force them back to female again before they finally figure out what's going on wouldn't have added anything but runtime. At least for the neutral route, on one of the character specific routes where they have a love interest to play off of maybe it could work.

Sorry let me explain in more detail my problem with it.

I have to be honest because of the direction it was going I thought Enby was a relative. Considering their development throughout the story. Also the explanation of them suddenly realizing they are male after all was complete BS to me. Especially when Leo's final form is nothing like the form we spent the majority of the game as. The very same form that got the various love interests in the game interested in Leo and when Leo actually began to enjoy life.

Leo has never been androgynous they never had a form similar to their final form in the game and never did they express any interest in it until they accepted living as a female which is when their own body rejected what their mind wanted. Only to be told that despite all that development and the conclusion Leo reached in their own mind that wasn't what they really wanted at all. There was no clear progression to the final form they pick.

I think you are right it had to be this way because Leo was Enby so we as players can't even have alternate time lines where Leo stays female and doesn't become Enby because player choice doesn't matter. Hopefully this explains it better why I am so annoyed with the game. I don't disagree with your reasoning but I personally don't like what they did with the story at all and how the love interests don't matter either.
 
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Also the explanation of them suddenly realizing they are male after all was complete BS to me.

until they accepted living as a female which is when their own body rejected what their mind wanted. Only to be told that despite all that development and the conclusion Leo reached in their own mind that wasn't what they really wanted at all. There was no clear progression to the final form they pick.

and when Leo actually began to enjoy life.
They never realized they were male, nor did they ever "want" to be female. They liked being female, but they also liked being male. As soon as Naomi pressured into committing to being a girl full time, rather than it being something they could freely play with, they realized that was the wrong choice and not what they really wanted deep down, but they were stuck in a binary mindset believing that their only options were Male or Female which only lead to them becoming more confused and relapsing to the opposite extreme. It's not until the conversation with Gavin that they realize they have a third option.

Leo also doesn't abandon their female form, they explicitly state in the ending some mornings they wake up mostly male, some mostly female, and some in-between. Their female form isn't gone, the ending just chooses to highlight their new options instead of showing us something we've already seen.
The very same form that got the various love interests in the game interested in Leo
Ashe doesn't have to seem to particularly care about their physical appearance, only their personality. The change kickstarted things by getting Leo to open up about his hobbies and find they had a shared interest, but they plausibly could have hooked up even if it never happened.

Naomi explicitly states that she was considering asking Leo out before he transformed. (This scene only plays if you did the Beach with Ashe, so easy to miss.)

Roman is the only one who's relationship is fundamentally centered around their female form, which will almost certainly be a major aspect of that storyline when it's added.
and how the love interests don't matter either.
Hard for the choice of LI to matter when they haven't added the ability to choose a LI yet. We're going to have to wait for the LI routes to exist before we can say anything about how good or bad the LI routes are.
 
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