Brovalon

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But have you tried a light-less run yet? You'd be surprised how far you can get without them. I just finished a run that ended with Red/Heat Level: 1 (10/15), because you can't avoid the first set of lights and you also get some unavoidable exp in the archive, but without any other light exp or corruption. Despite that the harem/lovers/girlfriends by the end was Mrs Maywood, Brittany, Mrs. Hill, Monica, Mrs. Wilson, Karen, Kyla, Rio, Sophia, Heather, Nadir, and Ward. And that wasn't an optimized route so I'm fairly certain more can be achieved.
This is deeply impressive and a run I had never even considered trying before. I play with cheats on, so I wonder how far one can get with cheatsrelated on but without using lights. I'll have to give it a go and report back sometime.
 

j_1993_m

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But have you tried a light-less run yet? You'd be surprised how far you can get without them. I just finished a run that ended with Red/Heat Level: 1 (10/15), because you can't avoid the first set of lights and you also get some unavoidable exp in the archive, but without any other light exp or corruption. Despite that the harem/lovers/girlfriends by the end was Mrs Maywood, Brittany, Mrs. Hill, Monica, Mrs. Wilson, Karen, Kyla, Rio, Sophia, Heather, Nadir, and Ward. And that wasn't an optimized route so I'm fairly certain more can be achieved.
I think Nikki and Sydney are available without lights too. Not sure about Suzue, that might require an orange light but not sure. Ive never ignored the orange light to see what happens.
 

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This is deeply impressive and a run I had never even considered trying before. I play with cheats on, so I wonder how far one can get with cheatsrelated on but without using lights. I'll have to give it a go and report back sometime.
It's actually less impressive than it seems. I don't play with cheats enabled but I do use the botnet mod that shows how each choice effects stats. Using that and some trial and error revealed a few things that aren't readily obvious to the player. Let's do a breakdown on a few of the girls for example.

Monica, Mrs. Wilson, Sophia, Kayla, and Ward are all pretty much down to bone out of the box.

Nadir, Rio, and Heather seem like they need work but it's a lot less than you'd think. For example you can ignore Heather entirely until late in the game at which point you basically just step in when she's fighting with Kyle. Nadir you just listen to her marital problems, go to dinner at her home, and deal with the husband (either way) and you're good.

That leaves what I would call the "deceptively difficult" options: Mrs. Maywood, Brittany, Mrs. Hill, and Karen. I used to think that these women in particular would require a lot of stat/light manipulation but they don't. You basically just need to be past a certain stat threshold and you're done. Karen for example. Just ignore her completely until you meet the stat requirements and then go get a snack with her once you have the option to. And boom you get the option to confess your love to her or whatever. Basically the same with Mrs. Maywood and Brittany. If you know the stat trigger and the appropriate time it's a done deal.

Obviously that's not the full list of love interests but it's most of the main ones. At this point I'm just seeing how many others I can wedge into a low-light or no-light run.

I think Nikki and Sydney are available without lights too. Not sure about Suzue, that might require an orange light but not sure. Ive never ignored the orange light to see what happens.
Yeah didn't check Nikki beyond getting her number so far. And Sydney seems easy too. My current save is a no-light run and I made it through the bunker with Suzie. Doing that nets you decent progress so it may be do-able.
 

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It's actually less impressive than it seems. I don't play with cheats enabled but I do use the botnet mod that shows how each choice effects stats. Using that and some trial and error revealed a few things that aren't readily obvious to the player. Let's do a breakdown on a few of the girls for example.

Monica, Mrs. Wilson, Sophia, Kayla, and Ward are all pretty much down to bone out of the box.

Nadir, Rio, and Heather seem like they need work but it's a lot less than you'd think. For example you can ignore Heather entirely until late in the game at which point you basically just step in when she's fighting with Kyle. Nadir you just listen to her marital problems, go to dinner at her home, and deal with the husband (either way) and you're good.

That leaves what I would call the "deceptively difficult" options: Mrs. Maywood, Brittany, Mrs. Hill, and Karen. I used to think that these women in particular would require a lot of stat/light manipulation but they don't. You basically just need to be past a certain stat threshold and you're done. Karen for example. Just ignore her completely until you meet the stat requirements and then go get a snack with her once you have the option to. And boom you get the option to confess your love to her or whatever. Basically the same with Mrs. Maywood and Brittany. If you know the stat trigger and the appropriate time it's a done deal.

Obviously that's not the full list of love interests but it's most of the main ones. At this point I'm just seeing how many others I can wedge into a low-light or no-light run.


Yeah didn't check Nikki beyond getting her number so far. And Sydney seems easy too. My current save is a no-light run and I made it through the bunker with Suzie. Doing that nets you decent progress so it may be do-able.
You can girlfriend Heather earlier than the argument scene. If you ignore the lights during Nadir first class and talk to her and Nikki, you will unlock tutoring if you have 5 int. Then you can choose either cheerleader when you decide to help. Go with heather if you have Nikki number then get Nikki at the park. Or vice versa if you don't have her number yet.
 

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You can girlfriend Heather earlier than the argument scene. If you ignore the lights during Nadir first class and talk to her and Nikki, you will unlock tutoring if you have 5 int. Then you can choose either cheerleader when you decide to help. Go with heather if you have Nikki number then get Nikki at the park. Or vice versa if you don't have her number yet.
Oh yeah. But iirc that's slightly more effort/time used than just waiting. I'm coming at this from a Pokemon perspective. Gotta catch 'em all. So by taking the path of least resistance/time you open up more opportunities to pursue other paths/women.
 

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Oh yeah. But iirc that's slightly more effort/time used than just waiting. I'm coming at this from a Pokemon perspective. Gotta catch 'em all. So by taking the path of least resistance/time you open up more opportunities to pursue other paths/women.
I don't see where the time is being wasted. During the Monday dinner you have 3 other options, and none of them lead to girlfriend/lover opportunities, which is why I mentioned the tutoring thing. Plus you don't need to harem Nikki and Heather as that happens on Saturday automatically during dinner.Suzie too if you have her.

No D&D either so 4 free slots there, for bunker and sorority party I guess? Harem Rio/Monica via truth or dare, late snack with Karen and coven ritual. There's a lot of time from what I can see. Still it'as a fun run to play around with.

Does every creampie in this game mean the girl is 100% pregnant? Or can I get away with some?
Very few. Like all of the BC women and the demons.
 
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Brovalon

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It's actually less impressive than it seems. I don't play with cheats enabled but I do use the botnet mod that shows how each choice effects stats. Using that and some trial and error revealed a few things that aren't readily obvious to the player. Let's do a breakdown on a few of the girls for example.

Monica, Mrs. Wilson, Sophia, Kayla, and Ward are all pretty much down to bone out of the box.

Nadir, Rio, and Heather seem like they need work but it's a lot less than you'd think. For example you can ignore Heather entirely until late in the game at which point you basically just step in when she's fighting with Kyle. Nadir you just listen to her marital problems, go to dinner at her home, and deal with the husband (either way) and you're good.

That leaves what I would call the "deceptively difficult" options: Mrs. Maywood, Brittany, Mrs. Hill, and Karen. I used to think that these women in particular would require a lot of stat/light manipulation but they don't. You basically just need to be past a certain stat threshold and you're done. Karen for example. Just ignore her completely until you meet the stat requirements and then go get a snack with her once you have the option to. And boom you get the option to confess your love to her or whatever. Basically the same with Mrs. Maywood and Brittany. If you know the stat trigger and the appropriate time it's a done deal.

Obviously that's not the full list of love interests but it's most of the main ones. At this point I'm just seeing how many others I can wedge into a low-light or no-light run.


Yeah didn't check Nikki beyond getting her number so far. And Sydney seems easy too. My current save is a no-light run and I made it through the bunker with Suzie. Doing that nets you decent progress so it may be do-able.
Seems to me what you're saying is that it'd be harder to get a no sex run - now that would be something interesting.
 

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Considering that you can make Ward, Patel and Nadir your mommy, I'm sure you will be calling Barberry mommy too when it's added. Don't worry.
The only reason I would consider leaving her alive is for Suzie's sake.
...If Barberry becomes your mommy, does Suzie become your sister?
 

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Well shit... Is that how these purple lights work? My guess is probably yes as the lights affect everyone's mind not just the target of the spell, so suzie might think that
That's how it worked with Lydia's family, and with Stacy, Mom and Brittany. Gonna make for some interesting conversations when Barberry finds out who all I got pregnant.
 
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Well shit... Is that how these purple lights work? My guess is probably yes as the lights affect everyone's mind not just the target of the spell, so suzie might think that
If Suzie is around her Mom, when the MC uses a purple light on her, Suzie should be affected too. If Suzie isn't there, then I don't think she'll be affected by it. If the MC mommys Patel, no one else sees her as your mom but if you mommy Nadir at the dinner party or mommy Lydia's Mom, then everyone there sees you as a son/brother. Its not like a brown light, where it affects everyone, everywhere. At least, that's how I see it.
 

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If Suzie is around her Mom, when the MC uses a purple light on her, Suzie should be affected too. If Suzie isn't there, then I don't think she'll be affected by it. If the MC mommys Patel, no one else sees her as your mom but if you mommy Nadir at the dinner party or mommy Lydia's Mom, then everyone there sees you as a son/brother. Its not like a brown light, where it affects everyone, everywhere. At least, that's how I see it.
This Is the Most Correct way of explaining Puprle Lights and Brown Lights
 
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