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A really interesting game! But it looks solid! The plot is ready, and the girls have been introduced to us.

Speaking of girls... They're super hot, with interesting dynamics between them. The renderers are on par with the best in this game genre. All in all, it's just a very addictive game that I'll be watching closely.
 

HappySteveGames

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Hello dev. I kinda like the game and I am thinking about supporting you on Patreon. But I have an issue and therefore I have to ask.

I seriously think that bathroom scene is not very good. When MC exposes Cindy and then he pushes her into shower stall with some other dude to hide. And what happens when the air is clear and he can leave with Cindy? He just waits... He leaves his almost naked GF alone with some other dude for few minutes !!! It just doesnt make any sense at this point in story.

From story point it doesnt make sense, because if players had choosen NTS then MC and Cindy agreed to take it slow and "easing into it". Leaving almost naked GF alone with another dude in shower stall is definitely NOT "ease into it". And that GF posing naked for another dude so he can jack off is NOT "ease into it".

A lot of players hates hardcore NTR and some elements of NTS. They will reject it with their choices. They are hero for exhibitionism, netori, cheating, sharing and swinging.
So letting MC's love interest almost naked and alone with another man is something they dont want. Especially if love interest will end up posing naked for another man so he can jack off.

How much of future content will be about NTS? Is NTS going to be avoidable?
So both the naked shower scene is avoidable and the the conversation about being eased into anything. Your issue appears to come with choosing the remove towel and then yes for NTS. which I can see your point of view. But when she mentions being eased into things she's talking about penetrative sex, maybe that's not clear.

Cindy is a exhibitionist, she's into that and that scene is showing you.

Cindy taking her time in the shower stall, is her teasing you. After all it is you putting her into the situation. Another thing is Eustice is a low threat so to speak, the type of guy you could leave your girl with alone and not worry about it.

I'm not going to outright say NTS will be completely avoidable, especially when views on what is and isn't NTS/NTR/Netori can vary so heavily. I'm going to add the Netorare tag, It's actually been added and removed twice now, I'm not really sure what's going on there. Seems like a miscommunication happened somewhere.
 
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AgriasQuarto

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The female cast have decent variety of personality to them, I especially enjoy how deranged Cindy is behaving despite being a bumpkin.
The male cast... seems to mostly just be stags, which works well for the main netori theme, but since there is netorase being sprinkled in, what kind of content can we expect from it? Is it cuckolding where we play the stag, or swinging with other couples since the story established so many of them, or will it remain as softer content like exhibition/voyeurism, or will Cindy bite off more than she can chew and get turned into a cuckquean by a more experienced lady?
 

HappySteveGames

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The female cast have decent variety of personality to them, I especially enjoy how deranged Cindy is behaving despite being a bumpkin.
The male cast... seems to mostly just be stags, which works well for the main netori theme, but since there is netorase being sprinkled in, what kind of content can we expect from it? Is it cuckolding where we play the stag, or swinging with other couples since the story established so many of them, or will it remain as softer content like exhibition/voyeurism, or will Cindy bite off more than she can chew and get turned into a cuckquean by a more experienced lady?
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HardPlay

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Gosh, that's what I was looking for! The game itself is very entertaining, has beautiful models, and has an interesting history that made me excited for more. It was definitely a great start!
Keep up the good work!
 

DrDerpington

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Why'd you pick that option? This isn't a trick question or gotcha, genuinely, why'd you pick that option? I'd understand it being a valid gripe if you wanted to pull her towel off with him there, but not have her leave your side, that makes sense - but that'd be a minority of players (I would also be in that minority)
Why pick? Because it looked like typical exhibitionist option.
Mind you, that in the morning Cindy and MC often have sex while the roommate is in the room. Thats exhibitionism. There were other instances of typical exhibitionist behaviour and I am all for that.
But when that exhibitionism option suddenly turns into NTS it is kinda unexpected.

So both the naked shower scene is avoidable and the the conversation about being eased into anything. Your issue appears to come with choosing the remove towel and then yes for NTS. which I can see your point of view. But when she mentions being eased into things she's talking about penetrative sex, maybe that's not clear.

Cindy is a exhibitionist, she's into that and that scene is showing you.

Cindy taking her time in the shower stall, is her teasing you. After all it is you putting her into the situation. Another thing is Eustice is a low threat so to speak, the type of guy you could leave your girl with alone and not worry about it.

I'm not going to outright say NTS will be completely avoidable, especially when views on what is and isn't NTS/NTR/Netori can vary so heavily. I'm going to add the Netorare tag, It's actually been added and removed twice now, I'm not really sure what's going on there. Seems like a miscommunication happened somewhere.
Okay. Fair enough. Defition and distinction of those terms can be very confusing.

And I think that NTR tag removed was mostly because current game version doesnt have typical NTR. It is mostly skirting on the edge of cheating, swinging, sharing (those 3 options can be considered kinda NTS).

I understand your plight. When you add NTR tag there will come hardcore fans of NTR complaining that they dont see their favorite NTR. When you dont add NTR tag then other players will complain, that NTR (NTS) came out of nowhere. Damned if you do, Damned if you dont. :ROFLMAO:

There is a solution for this, that has been used for similar cases on F95. Consider adding NTR tag and then make a "note" above Download links. Explain that current game version doesnt have typical hardcore NTR , but it has lighter version of NTR (people call it NTS). In current game version this kink can be avoided with choices ingame.

I think you should definitely add that NTR tag, because if you dont, then people will keep coming to complain. (People wont bother to read whole discussion and search for your explanation).
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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Why pick? Because it looked like typical exhibitionist option.
Mind you, that in the morning Cindy and MC often have sex while the roommate is in the room. Thats exhibitionism. There were other instances of typical exhibitionist behaviour and I am all for that.
But when that exhibitionism option suddenly turns into NTS it is kinda unexpected.
Yah I can empathize with that, I think a sad side effect of so much ntr warring in the forum culture is this gateway drug effect of things being grouped together that shouldn't be (he's already doing shrooms, might as well sell him meth, or in this case - most players that dont throw a fit at exhibitionism also will be in ntrs camp.) But that skips over very reasonable people who just want some exhibitionism and voyeurism in their otherwise stable relationship.
 

Walter Victor

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There is a solution for this, that has been used for similar cases on F95. Consider adding NTR tag and then make a "note" above Download links. Explain that current game version doesnt have typical hardcore NTR , but it has lighter version of NTR (people call it NTS). In current game version this kink can be avoided with choices ingame.

I think you should definitely add that NTR tag, because if you dont, then people will keep coming to complain. (People wont bother to read whole discussion and search for your explanation).
What makes you think that people will read that note? Many will, but a significant number (among them those who complain the loudest) will not.

Unfortunately, there is no solution to this problem that will please everyone. Put in the tag = complaints; leave off the tag = complaints! :rolleyes:
 

DrDerpington

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What makes you think that people will read that note? Many will, but a significant number (among them those who complain the loudest) will not.

Unfortunately, there is no solution to this problem that will please everyone. Put in the tag = complaints; leave off the tag = complaints! :rolleyes:
Dude, something is better than nothing.
Also it is common practive to write notes on F95. If people didnt read it, then it is their own fault.

Not using tag and not writing any warning is the worst combination.
 

_SerapH_

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Damn man i was really enjoying the game but after this statement i can't keep playing "i won't say outright that NTS will be completely avoidable", good luck with your game and thanks for talking openly about your future plans for the game.
 
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HappySteveGames

I played the game now and I'm sure this will compete with other very popular ai cg games at some point. You are doing a really good job, both in terms of story and cg, I hope you keep it up!

Also, that shower scene was really great! Damn I wish we could have seen what was going on inside in a little more detail. The scene where we left Cindy alone with Jeffrey at the party was also very exciting! I was so happy thinking about the possibilities of what could happen haha. But like I said I wish we could see in a little more detail what happened during all this.

Anyway I hope there will be more scenes like this in the future! Keep up the good work!


Finally a small note: Don't pay attention to the way some people say things that are only their own, as if they were coming from the mouths of the majority. Usually these people are very touchy and when something happens that they don't want(even if it's something really insignifcant), they try to make it seem like a big deal and pretend that nobody wants it. Don't pay too much attention to them. Please keep bringing your own vision to life!
 
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VReal

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Third place in my personal rating of AI developments.
A slightly non-standard plot (scenes).
I wonder what's next.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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yah for me it's MRL then this then others, though if Shadows of Ambition ever really gets going I see some of the most potential there storywise/worldbuilding. I like the more restrained art style of this and MRL though.... whatever MNGF and SoA use for models.... it's too busy for my tastes, like trying to be hyper stylized.
 
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To the Dev,

A small nitpick that I noted:

When the MC and Cindy return to the Tailor with Monique, Cindy introduces Monique as "newly wedded" to Mr. Ironton. Then, a short time later Cindy says to Mrs. Tailor that Monique needs something for her "soon to be husband". Instead of "newly wedded", I'm wondering if you meant "newly promised" or something? Anyway, it's just a small temporal issue that I thought I'd point out. :p
 
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