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John Doe Jr.

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I am guessing maybe we underestimate the number of people who play using phones and playing a phone DM game via it might make it immersive. I have heard that shybox's is decent (have not played) but the rest look pretty bad.
There's some gems out there. I think the genre gets a bad reputation for some of the shitter tbh. Shybox is good but there's a lot of different girls so one is bound to be something you like. Then there's Neko NTR and My Girlfriend's Streaming Career which are really solid games too
 

Lanseaux

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Honestly I still don't know what I am doing :LUL:. I am having fun making the game so it is all that matters to me.
That's how it has to be. I feel like I'm in hell doing the design, never was a design fan to be honest. But I don't know, it ends up being worth it when you see that what you have spent hours is starting to look good. I'm almost finishing the Main Menu and GUI design, maybe I will post an update in the Devthread.
 
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Lanseaux

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There's some gems out there. I think the genre gets a bad reputation for some of the shitter tbh. Shybox is good but there's a lot of different girls so one is bound to be something you like. Then there's Neko NTR and My Girlfriend's Streaming Career which are really solid games too
Well... never got hurt by trying, who knows maybe I get addicted to the genre too.
 

EvolutionKills

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I appreciate the list, but sweet holy fuck every time I clicked on a title I didn't recognize that had '2DCG' listed it opened up nothing but Gen-AI slop. So in the end I was reminded of some older titles that I remembered liking and should revisit, and not much more to show for it than that.
 
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Hentai_Kishi

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Hentai_Kishi Did you watch it?
Not yet but I will, there have been a lot of NTS things lately that I have to check. It's more masochistic from the couple's part but I think it's good to have variety.

I appreciate the list, but sweet holy fuck every time I clicked on a title I didn't recognize that had '2DCG' listed it opened up nothing but Gen-AI slop. So in the end I was reminded of some older titles that I remembered liking and should revisit, and not much more to show for it than that.
I try to include if it's AI in the notes section but yeah, since there has been a lot of AI I'm even considering putting it in a category of it's own, like 2DCG OR AI, so people don't get confused.
 

Grimbuster

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Any game where everything happens with the MC and LI in the same room, and not through messages/throughwall/doorcrack/recording shenanigans?
 

nidezrel

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Any game where everything happens with the MC and LI in the same room, and not through messages/throughwall/doorcrack/recording shenanigans?
I would like that too, but I can't think of one. There's select scenes in a few games, but not one where it's overwhelmingly first person.
 
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Any game where everything happens with the MC and LI in the same room, and not through messages/throughwall/doorcrack/recording shenanigans?
There are a few but dont remember many. will list some here. sorry if i remember any of this wrong

This last one is dark almost NTR but mc kinda likes it in a twisted way.
 
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gottesurteil

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Hey Hentai_Kishi I just read Winter Friends, from your master page (where you said you hadn't found a free version, and hadn't read it).

Here's a review if you feel like updating or following up on it:

Really good wholesome swinging, albeit in novella format. It's like 79 pages or something, with a rather well developed fantasy world. The initial premise is that they live in a harsh northern climate, but the 'gods' give equal chances by several drugs lol. There are at least two type of mushrooms/plants that straight up induce various states of mind. The MC's past, he survived using a Berserker drug (Norse influence for sure here) against a huge army of monsters. His childhood friend (male) returns with a wife from years of adventuring in the south (freer attitudes; his wife is... aggressively sexual, and he loves it).

Won't spoil anything further, but there's actually some decent worldbuilding, more than I'd expect from a erotic novella. The pair of couples use a second type of drug, that basically is 'higher state of mind' that is stereotypical of shrooms(?) (Don't know, I don't nor have ever done drugs). Anyway, it's a very wholesome trip, and they liken whatever happens under its influence to be the will of the gods. Cue orgy. That, over the months, leads to eventual swinging.

Basically the only downside of the novella is based upon the inherent state of being a novella: it's too short. There's only one scene of swinging (but it's a good 25% of the book).

All-in-all, I was quite impressed by how much went into the book though; not what I'd expect for an erotic 'short story'. Good worldbuilding, no NTR or any of that, hot sex, etc.

Worth a try if you like swinging. There's very little netorase content other than the implicitly stated parts in the swinging scene, but it covers a variety of poses, acts, MFF, MMF, FF, MF/MF, etc (no Male on Male for those who are worried). It's honestly a great scene, even though there's only one.



Note that it's on Kindle Unlimited, so if you have a membership (or pick up a free trial) you can read it for free. Otherwise, $2.99 (well, in the US at least).
 

MorallyLucky

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any games where the wife/gf changes throughout the game as a consequence of the NTS? like physical slutification/bimboficication stuff or even extreme personality changes?
Been looking for the same thing, but unfortunately it's pretty rare. It seems to be a mostly NTR trope (lot of japanese vns have it).
 
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diddlydadoo

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Aqua Orchid My Hotwife has something along those lines, with the wife dying her hair as she gets more into NTS, but it's a game that's pretty focused on the sph humiliation brand of cuckolding and skirts the NTR line pretty often, so be warned.
Been looking for the same thing, but unfortunately it's pretty rare. It seems to be a mostly NTR trope (lot of japanese vns have it).
It's normally a corruption trope, and corruption gets associated with NTR more often. But yes, I'd like to see it in a NTS game for a change, since a lot of NTS games also have a corruption angle.
 

MorallyLucky

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It's normally a corruption trope, and corruption gets associated with NTR more often. But yes, I'd like to see it in a NTS game for a change, since a lot of NTS games also have a corruption angle.
I like it more when it's a result of a woman becoming more confident in her physical features and not as a result of corruption, which I feel like should be a common thing in a NTS setting.
 

gottesurteil

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I like it more when it's a result of a woman becoming more confident in her physical features and not as a result of corruption, which I feel like should be a common thing in a NTS setting.
While i personally like a woman being more confident as a result of NTS, that's... basically the opposite of 'bimbo-fication'/'slutification' or 'extreme personality changes' (which was the original question asked)

I think any of those things, when paired with NTS, are 99% of the time going to lead to a NTR game. Even in games with NTS it's always that happens on the NTR 'bad end'. ...and by 99% I can't think of a single 2D game that involves those things that DOESN'T go full NTR. Huh.

I don't know many 3D games so I can't speak there, but they all have negative connotation. Bimbofication is very japanese with the Gyaru sub-culture. Slutification is by its very nature demeaning, meaning 'she's a slut and will sleep with anyone' Which is very much a loss of control by the MC...

Anyway, this thread is as anti-NTR as you can possibly get, though there definitely are exceptions, with people who like NTS AND NTR. Most people here want NTS and no NTR at all (because there are tons of NTR games, and NTS games without it are few and far between.
 
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MorallyLucky

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While i personally like a woman being more confident as a result of NTS, that's... basically the opposite of 'bimbo-fication'/'slutification' or 'extreme personality changes' (which was the original question asked)

I think any of those things, when paired with NTS, are 99% of the time going to lead to a NTR game. Even in games with NTS it's always that happens on the NTR 'bad end'. ...and by 99% I can't think of a single 2D game that involves those things that DOESN'T go full NTR. Huh.

I don't know many 3D games so I can't speak there, but they all have negative connotation. Bimbofication is very japanese with the Gyaru sub-culture. Slutification is by its very nature demeaning, meaning 'she's a slut and will sleep with anyone' Which is very much a loss of control by the MC...

Anyway, this thread is as anti-NTR as you can possibly get, though there definitely are exceptions, with people who like NTS AND NTR. Most people here want NTS and no NTR at all (because there are tons of NTR games, and NTS games without it are few and far between.
Personally, I make a distinction between mind break and bimbofication. Bimbofication just means someone altering their physical features to be more sexually appealing, it doesn't (or shouldn't) be a reflection of the character getting blackmailed or corrupted. e.g a character that increases their chest size because the husband/bf likes it, or a character that used to be insecure about their chest size instead gains the confidence to make them bigger etc.
 
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