This is an interesting post and wanted to say I really value your contributions (here and elsewhere) even though mostly I am just a lurker so don't generally express it. And I don't have much to add to what you've said, apart from saying I was interested to read it, but I do get very hung up on detail and wanted to touch on just this bit.The story takes place in London (numerous references to it) and when Edward asks Elsa where she is from, she says she was born here and is therefore a citizen (that's not true in the UK, but it's probably not important). Obviously, that's not what Edward was actually asking, but she seemed intent on deflecting. It likely ties to her family situation above.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, manDamn backup removing my reply, I can't write it again. Great game, great writing. Hope Ed makes it. Hope he screws Elsa over when it's revealed why she's using him. Hope she ends up as the MC of Fashion Business (but honestly, convincingly pulling a reversal in this relationship seems impossible, for good or worse). Fuck this bitch, you don't need her Eddie. You need someone better. Being groomed, molded and used by someone like that is not the way, even if it turns out to be.
I love analysing details like this, and you are indeed correct! British Nationality Act of 1981 has made it a requirement that at least one parent to be a citizen or permanent resident, of either the United Kingdom or one of its colonies.As I understand it the UK did have citizenship by birth (unless you were the child of a foreign diplomat?) up until 1983 or so (I had to look up the year it changed to be clear, didn't have that number in my head). So it could be true either if Elsa is quite a bit older than she looks (39? I agree this is unlikely? Or has her precise age been established?) or if the game isn't set "today" (clearly contemporary/ish... but it could plausibly be set in 2010 say and then Elsa would only have to be 28 to have been born before 1983).
Elsa is 22 and MC is older. It's somewhere in the beginning. She's just graduated from Uni, or so she claims.I love analysing details like this, and you are indeed correct! British Nationality Act of 1981 has made it a requirement that at least one parent to be a citizen or permanent resident, of either the United Kingdom or one of its colonies.
Elsa's age hasn't been established, but to my eyes she looks to be somewhere between 25 and 30. There are some assets in game (laptops, cars, phones etc) that weren't around in 2010, but that's probably too much nitpicking. So I'd say your theory is at least plausible
You seem to be right, kind of Here's the relevant bit from the script:Elsa is 22 and MC is older. It's somewhere in the beginning. She's just graduated from Uni, or so she claims.
Keep in mind that Elsa doesn't say anything. It's Edward who says Elsa is 22 and is a recent grad. She never actually comments on itscene tc-1 with slow_fade
"And on that day, I started to work on my project."
"Elsa, as she promised, was helping me with some numbers."
"Surprisingly, she knew more than I expected about all of this."
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"And it was a very practical kind of knowledge. Something that you can't get from books."
"Especially considering she was only twenty-two, just out of university."
"Thanks to the project, my motivation went sky high again. I finally had some kind of plan to achieve what I wanted."
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"And working together on the project, we became even closer."
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"By that time, I had completely gotten used to her. In a short period, I became much closer with her than with anyone else at work."
"I enjoyed working with her. She had traits I've always valued - she was smart and not very talkative."
played this just now and my best guess is fantasy mommy 4 incelsI've been thinking about Elsa. What do we really know about her?
This is incorrect. The beginning scene where Edward was lying on the couch at work had the following dialogue:Keep in mind that Elsa doesn't say anything. It's Edward who says Elsa is 22 and is a recent grad. She never actually comments on it
Can you please update the mod?Multi-Mod:
-Adds hints in dialogues that give points for the MC.
-Adds cheat option at the quick menu.
-Option to change MC's name, nick and surname (you can access it at the start of the game or when u choose "change names" on cheat screen.).
-Added gallery at the main menu.
Updated to v0.4
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It didn't feel out-of-character to me. If anything, she was just being as "Elsa" as ever.I used to like Elsa and even contemplated whether to pursue her over Alice if there's such opportunity in the future, but this update simply made her very unlikable. It's such a shame that she's being portrayed like that.
Not out-of-character to me either. It's more that her Elsa-ness is being dialed up that ended up crossing the tolerable line for me so that she becomes very unlikable. Before, it's like she pokes with you with a knife time to time, but this update feels like she stabs you and then twists the knife. Still the same character playing with a knife, but different outcome.It didn't feel out-of-character to me. If anything, she was just being as "Elsa" as ever.
I can agree.Not out-of-character to me either. It's more that her Elsa-ness is being dialed up that ended up crossing the tolerable line for me so that she becomes very unlikable. Before, it's like she pokes with you with a knife time to time, but this update feels like she stabs you and then twists the knife. Still the same character playing with a knife, but different outcome.
Ah, nice find! I searched for "22" and "twenty-two" in the code, but not "Twenty-two", which is why I missed it. So she definitely can't be a British citizen merely by being born hereThis is incorrect. The beginning scene where Edward was lying on the couch at work had the following dialogue:
The slow and short updates are a blessing in disquise, because the story moves so slowly that it might still end up being good in the future. People are still hoping that this will be a redemption story rather than an incel power fantasy, but I feel like they are reading more into it in that regard than is actually there.The main character is psychopathic to the extreme and looks like he is one hair trigger away from carrying out a mass school shooting, and I am being honest. I cannot comprehend how anyone would call this story good. There is nothing alpha or chad about any of his actions. There is nothing macho about it, either. It is just unhinged shit.
Multi-Mod:
-Adds hints in dialogues that give points for the MC.
-Adds cheat option at the quick menu.
-Option to change MC's name, nick and surname (you can access it at the start of the game or when u choose "change names" on cheat screen.).
-Added gallery at the main menu.
Updated to v0.4
DOWNLOAD: MEGA,You must be registered to see the linksORYou must be registered to see the links
SCREENSHOTS: