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truthpolice

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Hm, so:

i expected our choices to be more meaningful
> YOU ALL ARE NTR HATERS

nah mate, it's about her cheating being written poorly because of this and this and this
> WHAT ARE YOU, SHAKESPEARE? IT'S PORN!!!1!

If I were in there for porn, I'd just watch stuff on Pornhub.
Can you imagine, there are people that have different opinions to yours.
Half of people have written valid criticism in terms of believeability. Can a woman be irrational and jump on a dick? Of course.
Can Clara be irrational? Probably yes.
Can she be irrational in early stages of the story while being written as someone who is rational? Nope.
There is this thing, you know...called character development)

You like this update? Yes. Okay, I'm cool with that.
I like this update? No. So be cool with that and learn to respect other people's opinions.
Well, mate, in my opinion she has got enough character development just that this development hit her like a train and almost broke her. If you don't like that, cool but I wasn't the one going around quoting Shakespeare first.

Two, you cant rationalize emotions. They are like the most irrational thing a human can have. Humans have done far worse based on just emotions and you think they are logical like math? It isnt 1+1 unless you are a robot.

Three, I never said I am not cool with others' opinions. All I did was called out on their own "opinions" which is in a way my opinion too. Some even said goodbye as if they are leaving for a one way trip to Mars and I simply asked why they weren't leaving if they said goodbye. Their words, not mine. But do chill and go easy with the caps bro. Someone might think you want to scream at someone over a game.

Any normal human being would just leave a thread of a game in peace if they no longer like it after leaving behind their "opinion". But coming back to repeat the same thing a 100 hundred times makes one wonder if they are right in the head :unsure: :HideThePain: Only a sheep or a hater would do that.:BootyTime:
 
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ScrewMe

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Well, mate, in my opinion she has got enough character development just that this development hit her like a train and almost broke her. If you don't like that, cool but I wasn't the one going around quoting Shakespeare first.

Two, you cant rationalize emotions. They are like the most irrational thing a human can have. Humans have done far worse based on just emotions and you think they are logical like math? It isnt 1+1 unless you are a robot.

Three, I never said I am not cool with others' opinions. All I did was called out on their own "opinions" which is in a way my opinion too. Some even said goodbye as if they are leaving for a one way trip to Mars and I simply asked why they weren't leaving if they said goodbye. Their words, not mine. But do chill and go easy with the caps bro. Someone might think you want to scream at someone over a game.

Any normal human being would just leave a thread of a game in peace if they no longer like it after leaving behind their "opinion". But coming back to repeat the same thing a 100 hundred times makes one wonder if they are right in the head :unsure: :HideThePain: Only a sheep or a hater would do that.:BootyTime:
"Yeah man, I'm cool with your opinion, but if you didn't like this update - you're sheep. And go play something different, it's not for you"

Most of the feedback on my part and in case of some other dudes was written in respectful manner, with breaking things down, why this scene doesn't work the way it's supposed to.

Instead of bringing counterarguments(you managed to do it just in last reply, finally), you've started to call people names and told them to gtfo.

C'mon mate, I could've made full on breakdown with quotes and stuff, why this scene doesn't work, but it would take an hour or two and you'll just write "wasting your time to analyze porn plots".

IMO, Clara's cheating would need something extra to push her over the edge.
Leon could get influenced by something to keep us guessing and leave that small amount of doubt in our minds if he is redeemable. Instead we've got full on ILLUSIVE MAN'S INDOCTRINATED in your face.

And that is bad.
 

Couto25

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This game is something.

The pure faithful romantic route ends with Clara recieving a bullet in the head when Alan told her not to sacrifice her dignity before the movie date. Gameover.

But when Alan tells Clara to Sacrifice her dignity, I don't think after that there should be any argument on upto what level Clara should sacrifice or on what level Alan can cheat. So there will be cheating, NTR etc obviously..It means somehow we are playing to complete the mission without opening the cover of secret agent and for greater good rather than to save the marriage because the in-game mission requires not to blew up the cover. It's no more about staying faithful until the end once you choose the option to sacrifice the dignity. There might be an option for Alan to cheat on Clara too with Anna in future. So with future updates we will see how the story goes and which path the developer will try to build. Alan will not remain alone, if clara leave he has anna as his option. Who knows Anna might get jealous of Clara and shoot Alan herself at some point lol. As she is giving all her efforts for Alan to succeed even after watching Clara with another man in theatre and if Alan stays faithful to Clara, she might shoot Alan herself in the end lol.

Now I think the main purpose of the game is more focussed on who the hell is spectre and X lol the one who is responsible for taking Clara/Alan away from each other and why and kick their ass lol...will see how the story ends..i think Spectre, X and new chatbot app mystery will make Clara to do all their fanatsies before revealing their identity. Will see if they manage to get back together and treat all those cheating activities as a part of mission where they have to sacrifice their dignity or with wrong choices Clara/Alan will recieve another bullet in the head.
 
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Changelog:

This is a netorare focused game and is choice based(only MC can make choices), letting you decide how you want the story to end.
-Yep xdd :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:-
It will be slow-burn and corruption will take precedence. NTR haters should stay away, thx :D
Slow xdd:ROFLMAO:

I only played twice, the first time there was an update with Gunar! I express my opinion where i want it and how i want it!
So you can stick your first day in ;)
"I only played twice and I don't understand the dev notes, but here is my shit take".

Okay (y)
 

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Editing this to leave a note to clear most of the misunderstandings,
I can see why some are frustrated thinking there are not much choices while some think its pseudo KN. A NTR focused plot will definitely start with MC getting NTR'ed (Main LI). But what the plot asks from you, the MC, is to make choices that would lead to different futures.
It is almost like NTR is unavoidable no matter what choice you make.


But damn is so unrealistic, it is supposed to be slow burn sloooow, how can she open her legs like that waaaaaa~~

If you love blue ball simulators where no cock enters any vaginas few years into development, I can recommend you "Gunpower Cocktail", "Where it all begans" and "Perfect Marriage". Just leave this game alone. Plenty of people are loving this update.
 
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Trusting and helping Clara leads to the fact that she avoids this moments with mission goals (there is no footjob or bj)
I guess that leon will help her in the future with task if you know what I mean:KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK:

when the task get more spicy and allan has already problems with fingering in public...
 
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"Yeah man, I'm cool with your opinion, but if you didn't like this update - you're sheep. And go play something different, it's not for you"

Most of the feedback on my part and in case of some other dudes was written in respectful manner, with breaking things down, why this scene doesn't work the way it's supposed to.

Instead of bringing counterarguments(you managed to do it just in last reply, finally), you've started to call people names and told them to gtfo.

C'mon mate, I could've made full on breakdown with quotes and stuff, why this scene doesn't work, but it would take an hour or two and you'll just write "wasting your time to analyze porn plots".

IMO, Clara's cheating would need something extra to push her over the edge.
Leon could get influenced by something to keep us guessing and leave that small amount of doubt in our minds if he is redeemable. Instead we've got full on ILLUSIVE MAN'S INDOCTRINATED in your face.

And that is bad.
Lol I literally made multiple posts with more than enough counterarguments which again you and the rest conveniently keep not mentioning it. I don't want to waste time quoting them again cause you and the rest would just keep recycling the same boring arguments again.

Clara had already gone over the edge the moment she had to sacrifice her dignity again and again. There is no point in beating a dead horse.

I still don't get why you want to keep guessing Leon is the bad guy when things couldn't be more clearer. Even the banner is showing that to your face and hints were dropped multiple times in the story. It was never meant to be a surprise. It was only meant to make us wonder what Leon's goals are.

Also no matter how much you make arguments, what happened isn't going to change and the dev will do as he wishes. So why not leave alone the fans of this game instead of wasting our time in this thread? We get that you don't like it and STRONGLY stated your opinion multiple times. Is it too much to ask to respect this thread?
 
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Gato negro

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I have to say this. I've never felt this hurt in any NTR focused game before. And I must say that in the NTR games I played, the MC was tied to the chair and forced to watch his wife being fucked. but the ntr in this game is complete nonsense. No matter what combination of options you choose, your wife is still cheating on you. And this form of cheating is not by force or to maintain a ruse. Our wife is literally cheating on us emotionally. It's not nice. At the same time, I must say that I have played all the NTR focused games released on f95zone so far. But none of them broke my heart as much as the deception in this game. And we can't do anything to prevent this. The game developer should reconsider the story. Or at least it should make cheating preventable. By the way, I like ntr very much. Don't misunderstand my words. I think those who play the game understand very well what I mean. but i still fapped.
 

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I have to say this. I've never felt this hurt in any NTR focused game before. And I must say that in the NTR games I played, the MC was tied to the chair and forced to watch his wife being fucked. but the ntr in this game is complete nonsense. No matter what combination of options you choose, your wife is still cheating on you. And this form of cheating is not by force or to maintain a ruse. Our wife is literally cheating on us emotionally. It's not nice. At the same time, I must say that I have played all the NTR focused games released on f95zone so far. But none of them broke my heart as much as the deception in this game. And we can't do anything to prevent this. The game developer should reconsider the story. Or at least it should make cheating preventable. By the way, I like ntr very much. Don't misunderstand my words. I think those who play the game understand very well what I mean. but i still fapped.
Have you tried suggesting wife not to sacrifice her dignity?? Try that....Clara will die that will end romantic route if you are looking for it. That way you will stop the wife from cheating and your heart will not be broken.

But if you're playing after suggesting wife to sacrifice her dignity, that means get ready for wife cheating or NTR...if you keep showing concern about the wife who knows she'll stay when the story gets finished...but everything else Clara is doing is not to blow alan cover or putting him in danger as far as it has shown.
 
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Lol I literally made multiple posts with more than enough counterarguments which again you and the rest conveniently keep not mentioning it. I don't want to waste time quoting them again cause you and the rest would just keep recycling the same boring arguments again.

Clara had already gone over the edge the moment she had to sacrifice her dignity again and again. There is no point in beating a dead horse.

Ah yes. The "She was all alone, drank wine, saw a kiss, felt betrayed and didn't confront them cause had 2 -4 sexual actions , wanted to fuck and ended up banging Leon" in a nutshell.

Calm, calculated character who reads a room and hasn't let her lust overtake her in situations prior to this, loses her mind with one kiss from the dude who still has questionable past with her boyfriend.
How many times has Clara sacrificed her dignity? It happens from 2 to 4 times, depending on your actions. If it was random girl at university - cool. Super secret agent - meh. We just read the same stuff differently.

I still don't get why you want to keep guessing Leon is the bad guy when things couldn't be more clearer. Even the banner is showing that to your face and hints were dropped multiple times in the story. It was never meant to be a surprise. It was only meant to make us wonder what Leon's goals are.
Because of adding extra layers to the plot. Another typical example - I won't even put a movie. The most basic one, which everyone played: Being A Dik. What is the question that players ask themselves when the major characters are introduced? "Who I want to be with? Do I want to be with one or with as many as possible?" And what happens then - we get more questions - "What's Chad's secret? What happened between Bella and her husband? Who's the one stealing the laptop? Why this, why that?"
These questions are the reasons why the story keeps going and why people jumped on this game, not Bella's boobs or Camilla's butt.
And yes, the banner) Never heard of red herrings, okay)

Also no matter how much you make arguments, what happened isn't going to change and the dev will do as he wishes. So why not leave alone the fans of this game instead of wasting our time in this thread? We get that you don't like it and STRONGLY stated your opinion multiple times. Is it too much to ask to respect this thread?
Oh yes, feedback is such a bad thing! If you come to the restaurant and get decent soup, which is a bit too spicy - you tell about that to the waiter. Next time you come and soup is not as spicy as it was before. One could say "don't order the soup then". The issue is - if one client says that soup is spicy - meh, whatever. If it's a dozen of people - cooks start to make adjustments.

Using a logical mistake - to bring up an argument which I haven't even brought up) "We get that you don't like it" as the game) Yeah, cool, buddy. Good luck finding the quote)

"Haters, haters everywhere, you don't understand anything, leave the thread" - says the guy who replies to every other lad in here.
Nevertheless, I'm tired of talking to a wall. Cheers.
 
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truthpolice

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Ah yes. The "She was all alone, drank wine, saw a kiss, felt betrayed and didn't confront them cause had from 1 to 3 sexual actions depending on the playthrough, wanted to fuck and ended up banging Leon" in a nutshell.

Calm, calculated character who reads a room and hasn't let her lust overtake her in situations prior to this, loses her mind with one kiss from the dude who still has questionable past with her boyfriend.
How many times has Clara sacrificed her dignity? It happens from 2 to 4 times, depending on your actions. If it was random girl at university - cool. Super secret agent - meh. We just read the same stuff differently.



Because of adding extra layers to the plot. Another typical example - I won't even put a movie. The most basic one, which everyone played: Being A Dik. What is the question that players ask themselves when the major characters are introduced? "Who I want to be with? Do I want to be with one or with as many as possible?" And what happens then - we get more questions - "What's Chad's secret? What happened between Bella and her husband? Who's the one stealing the laptop? Why this, why that?"
These questions are the reasons why the story keeps going and why people jumped on this game, not Bella's boobs or Camilla's butt.
And yes, the banner) Never heard of red herrings, okay)



Oh yes, feedback is such a bad thing! If you come to the restaurant and get decent soup, which is a bit too spicy - you tell about that to the waiter. Next time you come and soup is not as spicy as it was before. One could say "don't order the soup then". The issue is - if one client says that soup is spicy - meh, whatever. If it's a dozen of people - cooks start to make adjustments.

Using a logical mistake - to bring up an argument which I haven't even brought up) "We get that you don't like it" as the game) Yeah, cool, buddy. Good luck finding the quote)

"Haters, haters everywhere, you don't understand anything, leave the thread" - says the guy who replies to every other lad in here.
Nevertheless, I'm tired of talking to a wall. Cheers.
This isn't a dating simulator like being a dik. At least compare games that fall in the same genre if you want to compare. Understanding a character's mentality throughout the development of plot is not a skill every player has.

Feedback can be given but redundant feedbacks just make your point even more stale and serve nothing.

Anyways I am also tired talking to a wall. Goodbye (y)
 

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one of the best and most believable NTR scenes I've seen and people are still crying. Get a grip.
WHAT!? Did Bill Burr write this comment? Ludicrous. As soon as Leon and his story was introduced, "Ya, that mofo is conspiring to give Clara that beef stick." Conveniently, Leon was always there to "assist" with Mr. X's task. Ooooookay, super predictable. The ONLY way this is believable is if you watch Pornhub for the plot.
 

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I seriously think that Anna could be the "X"... because she wanted to get close to Alan and she cannot compete with Clara on skills so she's trying to give tasks for Clara to cheat on Alan so that she can get close to Alan.

Just in case "if" Leon is just acting to be "honest" or he is working as double spy for spectre too....or his sister/father hand is involved in helping Leon with spectre....X knows about Leon's sister too (not explained in the story yet on why he got angered when Leon got the message from X that he will harm/expose his sister so what is the role of Leon's sister??...Till now Alan hated Leon's father and Leon because of what they did to them and that's what Alan told Clara but no clue about Leon's sister even Clara was surprised when she heard that he has a sister too ) ...so X got both Clara and Leon asses.

Will look forward to the next update of the story irrespective of NTR arguments. It felt a little early but to be honest I liked it that it is shown because atleast "sex" is not kept as a tool / hype for the desperation point on this game unlike in other games where they keep teasing the audience and keep giving blue balls to the gamers for years.

There is so much left to look forward to like whether Alan remain honest to Clara or he will go for Anna? Whether Anna is a con or not (till now we just know she put all her efforts to take care of Alan more than her own work and even more than clara but why?) ? Whether this new chat box app and X are being controlled by same person or X just hacked into chat box giving more cheating tasks to Clara and Leon? And yea who is con working for spectre? What all tasks X will give to Clara to corrupt her and to what level?? Will Alan and Clara reunite and come clean after the mission even after sacrificing their dignity?? Will Alan accept Clara back and same goes to Clara if someone play cheating route from Alan POV too ?

So many unanswered questions still left in the story to reveal..I am not gonna spoil my excitement towards the mystery of the story just because of one sex scene...there might be many scenes left on the way... Whenever there is no scene in any NTR/Slow corruption games and developer kept giving continuous blue balls to the audience in every update for years, even after regular demand of sex scene from people, there are fans supporting that game discussing about how the story will move forward and the plot even if it doesn't have anything... no story at all..in those game there's only one suspense going on whether the wife /husband cheat or not in next update and with whom or the developer will still give blue balls?

Here in this game the developer is not trying to milk the audience as far as scenes are concerned. He is giving the scenes and moving the main plot of the story forward with climax ...He has an actual story in his mind unlike other games of same genre, where there is no story or suspense at all beside milking audience by giving them blue balls in the name of whether or not there will be a scene in next update for years....they kept creating additional side stories with side character, that has nothing to do with the main plot just to delay sex. I don't have any complaint about this one and I am looking forward to the upcoming updates. It's the story that defines the game afterall and not the ability to hold scene for years unnecessarily ... Being a dik game got sex scene from the first update itself and story is still moving forward and people still love it but that's another genre. Yes this is the first game of this genre where there will be sex with the suspense still left in the story. So will see how it goes and how it will end.
 
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