VN Ren'Py Corrupted Hearts [v0.6 Part B] [Sinful Studios]

[Firaxius]

Now I'm going breakdown 3 rookie mistakes happened in the new update, I'm expert player in stealth/thief/spy games and I know some real spies, but yea in game and movies aren't like real spies, 90% of time real spies spend only time in offices and 10% they does like the movies and games.

Now the MC warned Clara and Anna about Leon, which is first thing to do as any good undercover agent, now the first mistake happened when Anna stayed late working and let her get helped by Leon, who set her up on the so said spectre trail, if he was that good why didn't he solved it much sooner, why ask a top hacker to do it, simple because he was already planning to destroying the only reliable team left in the organisation and Anna was foolish to fall into it.

Next rookie mistake, how can you be an top hacker without safety measure programs, if he did hack those unsecure channels, he should always made sure his trail was untraceable and having an alarm up when he would be compremised. He did hack those channels, found out it a fluke, but had no trace of being discovered, either he did an amateur hacker move or simple he wasn't the hacker he think he was.

Third rookie mistake, for an assassin, you don't go just upon a safehouse or hideout without having it first checked out if there aren't more armed men in the building, she just went in kill the target and before she can respond she get shot in her head from behind her, if she was trained from her 10th year old, killed so many high priority targets without being compremised, you would expect she is more skilled then this rookie mistake. Also the honeypotting would never have worked, if that guy is such an important crime agent, they would never allow him to bring some hooker to his place let stand some random lady.

I still love the VN, but i'm sad seeing so many rookie moves for an experienced team.

 

[quiboune]

I love that a cuck-only POV is available, can't wait to see it at work on future updates because although the story is alright so far, there is almost no game yet! I recommend people should wait a little longer before trying this game as you'll just be wasting your time.
Watch out for the pacing, Dev, especially in the limited knowledge mode. I'd recommend extending the stages as the characters get more corrupted instead of rushing them. So if, say, a blowjob becomes available, make many scenes where the MC almost catches them or the characters involved get sloppier or better at it while you advance the story instead of mentioning it once and moving on. With limited POV all we get are clues, so bad pacing might make that mode really boring.


That said, I'm sure you'll come up with a great story anyway. Godspeed, Dev!

 

[MikeOG]

Why is it in these NTR corruption games, the male MCs are true cucks and/or losers unable to satisfy their spouse/GF? NTR does not mean cuckholding...

i dont think you know what NTR means

 

[Sinful Dev]

First of all, I really liked the adjustment you made regarding too much repeated scenes in the "all POV."

Moving on, I got another critique hehe. I'm not a programmer, so I'm far from an expert when it comes to coding in renpy games, but I do always look at the script file and check the variables and flags being set to better understand the potential routes.

I noticed that the game doesn't set any variables or flags for the choice we got in this update. Granted, it's a dead end choice where one leads to an early bad end, so it doesn't really matter this time, but if this style of coding will be used for most choices, I can see it leading to some routing issues down the line (if you decide to add routes and not just go for a kinetic novel approach). Without actually tracking the choices, it could easily lead to inconsistencies later on.

Also, when it comes to bad ends, the one we got in this update was pretty meaningless. Bad ends without a sex scene is generally a waste of everyone's time in porn games (and a wasted opportunity when it comes to corruption games). The advantage of using bad ends in stories like this is that it can let you jump the line in terms of corruption arcs and give an early treat to players without impacting the plot. Like let's say instead of her dying on the spot, we see her get raped first. Even better, it could be a quick series of scenes where we see her get trained and corrupted before she goes missing or something. You know, something to make it worth looking through the bad end route rather than just being like, "Oh, she ded, go back and pick the other choice."

Here is my advice. You could follow one of two designs, or a mix of the two. Track the choices with variables/flags and use those to give slight variations in dialogue and scenes, maybe even leading to potentially major route branching. For example, that choice could set a flag "sac_dignity = True/False" which can be referenced in various ways later. Or it could set a variable "alan_confidence += 1" or "clara_corruption += 1" which could be accumulated through other similar choices and eventually lead to a route split or flavor text variation.

Or if you want to keep the scope of the game smaller and keep to a mostly kinetic novel approach, at least attach sex scenes to the dead end choices so it doesn't become meaningless. If there is no bad ending scene and the choice isn't going to set a variable/flag that can come into play later, do we really even need that choice which immediately leads to a game over?

No need to take this bad ending as a serious route. It was just to show that choices matter and the true bad endings are going to come later. I already have a plan set for the potential routes ahead.

 

[Sinful Dev]

Now I'm going breakdown 3 rookie mistakes happened in the new update, I'm expert player in stealth/thief/spy games and I know some real spies, but yea in game and movies aren't like real spies, 90% of time real spies spend only time in offices and 10% they does like the movies and games.

Now the MC warned Clara and Anna about Leon, which is first thing to do as any good undercover agent, now the first mistake happened when Anna stayed late working and let her get helped by Leon, who set her up on the so said spectre trail, if he was that good why didn't he solved it much sooner, why ask a top hacker to do it, simple because he was already planning to destroying the only reliable team left in the organisation and Anna was foolish to fall into it.

Next rookie mistake, how can you be an top hacker without safety measure programs, if he did hack those unsecure channels, he should always made sure his trail was untraceable and having an alarm up when he would be compremised. He did hack those channels, found out it a fluke, but had no trace of being discovered, either he did an amateur hacker move or simple he wasn't the hacker he think he was.

Third rookie mistake, for an assassin, you don't go just upon a safehouse or hideout without having it first checked out if there aren't more armed men in the building, she just went in kill the target and before she can respond she get shot in her head from behind her, if she was trained from her 10th year old, killed so many high priority targets without being compremised, you would expect she is more skilled then this rookie mistake. Also the honeypotting would never have worked, if that guy is such an important crime agent, they would never allow him to bring some hooker to his place let stand some random lady.

I still love the VN, but i'm sad seeing so many rookie moves for an experienced team.

1) MC and Anna managed to break into the Spectre servers which they believed Leon was never capable of. That is why Leon congratulated them for managing to get through the hard part. He does say he isn't good as MC. He then used his "experience" which MC can't possibly have to help Anna sort through the servers. And Anna was tempted to make MC happy with this since she knew he wanted to get this mission done quick.

2) How do you know MC didn't set up safety measure programs? This is where things took a turn Wait for next update for explanation.

3) Clara had Leon supporting her and checking out the cameras and telling her he would inform her if something comes up. Her mistake here was trusting Leon due to her desperation to save MC. There was no time to prepare and she didn't had the luxury to not trust Leon. She thought if Leon wanted MC to go down, why would he even report this to her? She also couldn't cross confirm with MC at the risk of MC taking risks to get this fixed, especially since he would feel responsible. There was also the logic that Leon would also go down if he does anything to compromise the mission. It was a combination of factors that made Clara go through with this.

4) Ben is not a important crime agent. He is just a low level minion that has just a single job going on for Specter. As Leon said Specter employs lots of people to manage each stuff.

And well since this is a NTR game, there has to be some suspension of disbelief for things to work but I am trying to keep it as realistic as possible. Feel free to give me more feedback

 

[Sinful Dev]

Kinetic novel? Can you do multiple paths instead? KN is just sad to go through.

It's not KN. There will be multiple paths and choices upcoming.

 

[luxilfer666]

Any reason for the changes of 'graphic style' from 0.1 to 0.2? I really enjoy the story but it can be quite struggling to read some long texts when the scenes are mostly 'static' 2dcg-ish renders.

 

[Sinful Dev]

Any reason for the changes of 'graphic style' from 0.1 to 0.2? I really enjoy the story but it can be quite struggling to read some long texts when the scenes are mostly 'static' 2dcg-ish renders.

You mean the sprites? Yeah that was to speed up the development. But it is only for conversations and any action or important events always use full renders.

 

[SteelyDan14]

You do realize people cheat all the time and its mostly about the excitement and not "hes a cuck that cant fuck right"

And that is my point. Cheating is fine and I am okay with a cuck, but I don't like playing an mc that is a loser. I get why people like it and I am not trying to kink shame and if I did, I'm sorry. I just get frustrated when this approach seems to be the only thing available to play.

 

[Sinful Dev]

I love the premise. Any plans for pregnancy stuff? I'm gonna have to try this one out.

 

[sunqian3000]

good new game

 

[Sinful Dev]

Those asking for Android version, we came upon an error while compiling it. We will keep trying and post here if successful.

 

[Ahegao is best]

Those asking for Android version, we came upon an error while compiling it. We will keep trying and post here if successful.

thx your help!

 

[desmosome]

And that is my point. Cheating is fine and I am okay with a cuck, but I don't like playing an mc that is a loser. I get why people like it and I am not trying to kink shame and if I did, I'm sorry. I just get frustrated when this approach seems to be the only thing available to play.

It's true that the majority of NTRed male MCs are weak in bed (sometimes exaggerated with a micropenis and premature ejaculation, but often just average sex skills). The reason is most likely because that set up for the characters just fits the NTR themes the best.

NTR stories that stays close to Japanese NTR style generally follows the path of corruption of the pure heroine by some asshole with sexual prowess. They are usually not telling a story of an adventurous woman who wants to cheat "for the thrill," nor a scorned woman who is angry at her partner and cheats out of spite. It's specificically trying to show a loving relationship that is ruined by outside forces. It's also worth noting that the male MC isn't necessarily a "loser" just because he can't give multiple orgasms like some giga Chad (that's basically normal, and the antagonists that have unnatural sex powers are the fantastical ones). So giving this otherwise healthy, loving couple one weak point that the antagonist can tackle to corrupt the woman just seems like a natural fit. Blackmail, rape, manipulation, seduction, or anything else can get the baddie to sex the woman, but her "fall" happens because the sex is just much better. There is a reason their body falls much earlier than their willpower in most cases.

I'm curious to see what type of male MC you are looking for in an NTR game if you don't enjoy a "loser" MC. Because frankly, that's like asking for a hypermasculine Giga chad MC in a hardcore femdom game. It could be done (and could even be interesting), but it's not the natural fit, you know?

 

[stiltoboglovian412]

Promising game. Good writing, nice renders.

 

[Undivided54]

Oh,love this game,looking forward to more updates in the future!

 

[Claudio83]

In this game NTR is intended as the classical "netorare" (wife cheating) or "netorase" (wife sharing)?

 

[Firaxius]

1) MC and Anna managed to break into the Spectre servers which they believed Leon was never capable of. That is why Leon congratulated them for managing to get through the hard part. He does say he isn't good as MC. He then used his "experience" which MC can't possibly have to help Anna sort through the servers. And Anna was tempted to make MC happy with this since she knew he wanted to get this mission done quick.

2) How do you know MC didn't set up safety measure programs? This is where things took a turn Wait for next update for explanation.

3) Clara had Leon supporting her and checking out the cameras and telling her he would inform her if something comes up. Her mistake here was trusting Leon due to her desperation to save MC. There was no time to prepare and she didn't had the luxury to not trust Leon. She thought if Leon wanted MC to go down, why would he even report this to her? She also couldn't cross confirm with MC at the risk of MC taking risks to get this fixed, especially since he would feel responsible. There was also the logic that Leon would also go down if he does anything to compromise the mission. It was a combination of factors that made Clara go through with this.

4) Ben is not a important crime agent. He is just a low level minion that has just a single job going on for Specter. As Leon said Specter employs lots of people to manage each stuff.

And well since this is a NTR game, there has to be some suspension of disbelief for things to work but I am trying to keep it as realistic as possible. Feel free to give me more feedback

It still sad that after warning from their Boss, warning from MC, they still to trusting in the new member, geuss playing to many spy/stealth/ thief games as watching some movies and talking with some real spies, made me to suspicious on such things, I surely would never trusted him and would expected from my team they took the warnings serious, but i'm surely looking forward to the next update, and no I don't mind it NTR , but I expected it would been differently, that Leon would try to get into Clara and Anna's panties, not that he would make her get Clara panties dirty with some British scumbag, but still for such evil organisation also a stupid move to give nearly a nobody in their group such important access key.

 

[Firaxius]

In this game NTR is intended as the classical "netorare" (wife cheating) or "netorase" (wife sharing)?

If you see the tags it says Netorare, so yes his wife will do things with other guys which her husband/MC won't really like, also a thing she never considered she would be doing, but eventualy she does in hope to succeed her mission, but depend on the future how she will handle it, it might lead to her being corrupted and be another double agent for spectre, or she finaly uncover them all and get the job done at cost of her marriage and MC maybe end up with the young assian intern. But those last 2 are still up to the writter how it will evolve.

 

[Sinful Dev]

It still sad that after warning from their Boss, warning from MC, they still to trusting in the new member, geuss playing to many spy/stealth/ thief games as watching some movies and talking with some real spies, made me to suspicious on such things, I surely would never trusted him and would expected from my team they took the warnings serious, but i'm surely looking forward to the next update, and no I don't mind it NTR , but I expected it would been differently, that Leon would try to get into Clara and Anna's panties, not that he would make her get Clara panties dirty with some British scumbag, but still for such evil organisation also a stupid move to give nearly a nobody in their group such important access key.

Well we will find out if they are really stupid or not And as I mentioned in my notes, this game focuses on corruption rather than straight to banging. The antagonist isn't like the usual ones. You will understand what this means within the next update or two.