Geigi

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My question to the people who think that there is no such things as 'majority opinion on attractiveness'. If there is no such thing - then why instagram models are look generally the same to a point of interchangeability at times?
Instagram is not a good example. The majority of girls are heavily plastic to the point of no recognition, I can barely find normal attractive looking girls without heavy filters of photos. Beauty, youth and femininity will always be wanted and promoted. Same for guys who need to be tall, have muscles and are good looking. Beauty standards are 99% forced onto women. Supermodels are rarely healthy because they are constantly starving to look good. South Korea is the first country for plastic surgery. If a woman isn't beautiful like a cartoon princess, have a body of a model, gym and plastic surgery is must have.
 

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Instagram is not a good example. The majority of girls are heavily plastic to the point of no recognition, I can barely find normal attractive looking girls without heavy filters of photos
But how they achieve that is irrelevant entirely. They are doing it anyway and if it didn't work for them, they wouldn't do it. Their whole job is to be attractive to as many people as possible.

Do you think they are stupid and commit themselves to the insane amount of work for nothing?

Basically, there is a whole industry around female beauty standard made out of cosmetics, fitness routines, social media and software engineering to create better and better filters and image enhancers. Probably billions of dollars are spent annually to achieve relatively similar result for millions of women across the entire world. But people in this thread somehow claim that apparently it doesn't exist. Or that all these people are idiots and are trying to cater to something that doesn't exist.
 
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Geigi

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Do you think they are stupid and commit themselves to the insane amount of work for nothing?
No, it's not stupid if you work on your face and body naturally. It's a problem when your face and body start to fall apart and your mental health decline to the point of depression due to the years of pressure and plastic transformation. There are many stories on internet for a reason, just Google the dark side of a beauty standards. Not to mention, that girls who are a natural had problems in the modeling because of the jealousy from other girls. I know this well because I was for a short time in this world. Same for actresses who are now addicted to Ozempic and for porn, a lot of pornstars off themselves, not surprisingly, most of them are women.
 
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Without writing too much, I have one point I think is important. Alone in this thread you will not be able to find a consense of what all find attractive. Now, why would the def of this game use some statistics to force the player character to pay attention to a beauty standard the player has no interest in.

For example: if the player chooses to take small breasts as attractive ingame (you can take 5). Then why should there be something that rates counter to this pick (if we assume small breasts are not the beauty standard in most cases)?

A general attractive score exists with the heart icons some NPCs have or not? Do we discuss anything about the game or is this philosophical?
 

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The game got stuck at this point in the theater. Any ideas on how to get out of it? Otherwise I gotta start from scratch.

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Without writing too much, I have one point I think is important. Alone in this thread you will not be able to find a consense of what all find attractive. Now, why would the def of this game use some statistics to force the player character to pay attention to a beauty standard the player has no interest in.

For example: if the player chooses to take small breasts as attractive ingame (you can take 5). Then why should there be something that rates counter to this pick (if we assume small breasts are not the beauty standard in most cases)?

A general attractive score exists with the heart icons some NPCs have or not? Do we discuss anything about the game or is this philosophical?
Yeah, I agree, the player can already pick what their PC finds attractive, and then the NPCs get an attractiveness rating accordingly. What else is needed?
 
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cd13

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A general attractive score exists with the heart icons some NPCs have or not? Do we discuss anything about the game or is this philosophical?
The issue I think that the original poster had (before it devolved into discussion about universality of beauty) is that there is no sense of progression in the game. Whatever you do, your character will have about the same reactions from everyone.

To me it kinda falls into the same problem as Skyrim (great comparison, I know) - whatever you do, it doesn't really matter, the world doesn't react meaningfully to your actions.
 

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The issue I think that the original poster had (before it devolved into discussion about universality of beauty) is that there is no sense of progression in the game. Whatever you do, your character will have about the same reactions from everyone.

To me it kinda falls into the same problem as Skyrim (great comparison, I know) - whatever you do, it doesn't really matter, the world doesn't react meaningfully to your actions.
Yeah the main thing is feeling progression.

I want to play as a female and have the progression of people commenting about you being unattractive / mid. And then working out at the gym, buying nicer clothes, doing better makeup, increasing breast size etc. And have people fawning over you.

It would be cool if there were hot or not lists or something posted around campus where the football team and other douches rank the top 10 and bottom 10 girls in the school. Would be cool to move up their lists.

Could also do a top 10 most popular / least popular list too
 

ich0

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The issue I think that the original poster had (before it devolved into discussion about universality of beauty) is that there is no sense of progression in the game. Whatever you do, your character will have about the same reactions from everyone.

To me it kinda falls into the same problem as Skyrim (great comparison, I know) - whatever you do, it doesn't really matter, the world doesn't react meaningfully to your actions.
The question would be what you want to progress in. It is like the meaning of life, everybody wants another thing.

Yeah the main thing is feeling progression.

I want to play as a female and have the progression of people commenting about you being unattractive / mid. And then working out at the gym, buying nicer clothes, doing better makeup, increasing breast size etc. And have people fawning over you.

It would be cool if there were hot or not lists or something posted around campus where the football team and other douches rank the top 10 and bottom 10 girls in the school. Would be cool to move up their lists.

Could also do a top 10 most popular / least popular list too
In my opinion, you want a typical school simulation (in the USA) where some kids think that the newest fashion and plenty of makeup and a magically perfect body makes someone better than others? With the flexibility the games give, I don't think that the game will have too much shallow content and sadly, there is no magic until now.
I don't want to be too disrespectful, but I also don't want to think too much about what to write. Sorry.

I also think that the NPC reacts to the players' parameters, like body, clothes, makeup etc. the things you can set your likes and dislikes. In addition, they could be jealous, I am not too sure, but we have some drama and realism. If there is a beauty contest, how would you hold up these existing systems?

There is a lot implemented. So we have to be more specific about what could be added, that is not yet on the roadmap.
For example, there could be a list of how many people you have had sex with. Something you can count ingame.
 
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