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Dear people who hate NTR, would you allow your in game girlfriend to be groped & stripped to gain a combat advantage?
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Honestly its not your fault, im sure many people glossed over the title and op and just voted. I mean who really takes these seriously? Its more that F95 is kinda just a bad place for these specific kinds of polls as a whole. If I were the OP when asking a question thats as specific as this I would probably go to a developers discord thats focuses on the fetish hes looking for and put a strawpoll there.Point taken, I'll be more careful next time.
- Jun 10, 2018
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What?
First of all NTR is STILL the short for netorare and not netorase, second, none of the answers include any form of swinging as well. What the hell are you talking about?
Nah I just thought you're one of these guys who don't think ntr is ntr when it's a woman, my bad.
But sexist? Seriously? Come one...
Again, none of the answers has anything to do with NTR, so nobody is lying.
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NTR last time I delved into it was a blanket term for all three, and it was only westerners that considered netorare to be NTR. As for swinging what else do you think a person who lets his girlfriend be fucked/groped is? If its consensual, which the question implies, then hes letting his partner fuck someone else, essentially swinging with him getting items in return and literally netorase. If its not consensual then its netorare. Just read inbetween the line a little please.
I mean if you think a woman cant cheat on a man if its another woman, is that not holding another sex to a different standard? At least I see it as kind of sexist. Not one that really affects anyone negatively, but still the same thought process.
The answers don't but the dev literally asks twice for only people who "hate" NTR to answer. So therefor its to see who is lying about hating it, and instead likes it. i dont understand where the miscommunication is.
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It's actually the opposite, it's only westeners who mix and match everything they want into being ntr.
I think you read a little too much between the lines, or you make it a bit too easy. If you think about the situation implied by the op only, letting her getting groped to gain a better position in battle has nothing to do with ntr, it has nothing to do with swinging, it has nothing to do with sex at all, it's about winning the battle.
Okay, simply put: Why do you think a NTR hater automatically lies when they don't tick a or d when there's no ntr involved in any of the answers?
Anyway, I think we're getting a bit too off-topic here, so this will be my last post here.
@ OP I don't like NTR (netorare) and depending on the context/situation/people involved I'd chose either a, b, c, or f
f being (only) ripped off clothes^^
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The answer depends very much on how you frame the question, just like rested experience in World of Warcraft.
People hated the 50% XP reduction if you played more than a certain amount of time. Blizzard then lowered all XP gains by 50% and instead gave you a 200% XP buff if you played less than a certain amount of time.
The girlfriend getting groped during combat could be the same thing.
You shouldn't intentionally let your girlfriend get groped to gain a buff, the buff should simply happen whenever your girlfriend gets groped.
Players will likely find it much easier to empathize with someone getting angry at his girlfriend getting groped than they can with someone that sacrifices his girlfriend to make life easier for himself.
See it this way. All combat encounters will start on hard mode, with you needing to protect your girlfriend, as well as winning. If the player is unable to protect her, then the combat goes into easy mode, and it's just about survival. The penalty for entering easy mode will be watching your girlfriend getting groped.
This ensures that the player and the main character has the same goal in combat. Protect the girlfriend!
People hated the 50% XP reduction if you played more than a certain amount of time. Blizzard then lowered all XP gains by 50% and instead gave you a 200% XP buff if you played less than a certain amount of time.
The girlfriend getting groped during combat could be the same thing.
You shouldn't intentionally let your girlfriend get groped to gain a buff, the buff should simply happen whenever your girlfriend gets groped.
Players will likely find it much easier to empathize with someone getting angry at his girlfriend getting groped than they can with someone that sacrifices his girlfriend to make life easier for himself.
See it this way. All combat encounters will start on hard mode, with you needing to protect your girlfriend, as well as winning. If the player is unable to protect her, then the combat goes into easy mode, and it's just about survival. The penalty for entering easy mode will be watching your girlfriend getting groped.
This ensures that the player and the main character has the same goal in combat. Protect the girlfriend!
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Maybe I am? That's just what I've read from people that Like NTR a lot more then I do. I would assume that they would know a lot about it, but people are wrong all the times. I'll take that your right and retract that part of what I said then.
Sure I guess you could look at it from that perspective. But you dont "hate" it. I personally think there's a vast difference in disliking a fetish and hating it. I just think that most people who hate it wouldn't look at it that way, from my personal view and talking to a lot of people that do. I guess you are right though on the account that there are cuckolds (Not fetish shaming just a lack of better word) who do hate NTR and like that kind of content, or are more neutral . But I would think they are a small minority. Also it does strike me strange that you would be willing to go only as far as C? I mean if you only view it as a way to win the battle and to gain, why not go all the way? At least how I see it B is as bad as D (coinvent placing).
Again thats not what im saying. What im saying is because of the way the poll is set up there's no way of telling whos telling the truth. Even on the thread you can find we talking to someone else who (I assume) just skimmed the OP and voted without reading who it was for, and I would assume there's more as well as detractors. Me saying that was so the OP would have an additional way to verify who is and isn't lying. I now get why the misunderstanding is there, its because it directly followed the first sentence and makes it seem like adding onto first sentence when it isnt. I should have added a line to break up the thoughts. Didn't even think of it like that while writing
Feel free to invade my DM's if you have any other doubts/inquires or want to answer my question.
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Voted A
I think nobody will vote E, or it would be a lie… If you think the question is stupid and you don’t have to answer, you don’t answer.
But, the question is really interresting, beyond the fact Hakarlman makes a market study.
For me – but I think I’m not alone – it is not that I rationnaly hate NTR, it’s just it makes me feel bad when it happens, and I have to put myself in the shoes of the bad guy, and so I feel I’m not totally in the game anymore. When the game is more engaged in the NTR, I cannot keep on, it’s not funny anymore.
So if I can avoid NTR, I’ll do it, even if NTR gives you an advantage in a combat or anything else. For example, if you have to accept NTR to marry with the GF at the end, I prefer not.
In fact, it’s an interesting question because we can see the subtilities of our own fantasies. I like domination games, and all this kind of taboos, or incest ones, but in reality, I couldn’t accept myself doing the half of what I can do in these games. I don’t think I’m just a coward in reality. When I start to imagine what I do in games applied to reality, I start to feel really bad.
In a way, that’s the same bad feeling I have when I play NTR, as if I couldn’ have the catharsis filter of the game. And that’s really strange because I can have a rational opinion about a NTR game, even if I didn’t like it, just because of NTR style.
I think nobody will vote E, or it would be a lie… If you think the question is stupid and you don’t have to answer, you don’t answer.
But, the question is really interresting, beyond the fact Hakarlman makes a market study.
For me – but I think I’m not alone – it is not that I rationnaly hate NTR, it’s just it makes me feel bad when it happens, and I have to put myself in the shoes of the bad guy, and so I feel I’m not totally in the game anymore. When the game is more engaged in the NTR, I cannot keep on, it’s not funny anymore.
So if I can avoid NTR, I’ll do it, even if NTR gives you an advantage in a combat or anything else. For example, if you have to accept NTR to marry with the GF at the end, I prefer not.
In fact, it’s an interesting question because we can see the subtilities of our own fantasies. I like domination games, and all this kind of taboos, or incest ones, but in reality, I couldn’t accept myself doing the half of what I can do in these games. I don’t think I’m just a coward in reality. When I start to imagine what I do in games applied to reality, I start to feel really bad.
In a way, that’s the same bad feeling I have when I play NTR, as if I couldn’ have the catharsis filter of the game. And that’s really strange because I can have a rational opinion about a NTR game, even if I didn’t like it, just because of NTR style.
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I see your point and I have to admit I assumed the gender of the protagonist and the enemy to be male. Personally I hate NTR if a man steals the woman from another man (or any other scenario with multiple male characters in sexual action), but I'm completely fine with scenarios where a woman steals the woman. As I'm not an immersive player I don't care who the protagonist is. I don't relate to (and don't want to relate to) any characters in porn games. I wouldn't play a game where a man steals a woman from a lesbian relationship, as this would be exremely anti-climactic and a certain boner killer.
It's still cheating, but to me there's a huge difference between the two. If my GF wanted to have sex with another woman I'd be fine with it as long as I get to at least watch. In fact I'd find it a turn on even if I didn't get to participate. If it was behind my back though and I wasn't there to see it then I would have a problem with it, although I could get over it.
If it was with another guy though there is no way in hell I would allow it and if she cheated without asking I would dump her immediately. There's no coming back from that.
dudes. aren't there enough ntr game threads to argue about the definition of ntr? this poll if for the other side.
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Since C) is so rare I'll make a comment. I'm okay with that only with some conditions. One, neither the girl nor MC can be happy about it. Two, there must be a way to avoid that. Think of it like finishing combat with 1HP left. Acceptable, but it's too close a brush with defeat, so preferably not do that as a general strategy.
I'm okay with the game having d) as a loss condition.
I'm okay with the game having d) as a loss condition.
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You just KNOW the cucks voted in this poll. Sad to see.
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I vote f): the idea is stupid and if that alternative shows up in a game I would delete the game from my harddrive.
I'm not fanatically against NTR, I've played through a few NTR-scenes without making a drama about it, it just seems to be such a stupid mechanic. Just included to test the resolve of the anti-ntr crowd. Hard pass.
I'm not fanatically against NTR, I've played through a few NTR-scenes without making a drama about it, it just seems to be such a stupid mechanic. Just included to test the resolve of the anti-ntr crowd. Hard pass.
I think we need to arrange an award show where we will give trophy to the people who hate ntr and big clap for them cuz you guys are real life hero. First of all you are playing a game you need to understand that and it has nothing to do with your real life. And if you can't accept it then something abnormal going with your life that you are unable to change. I think those who hate ntr need to realize that you guys are facing something in game that are actually a cuckold fantasy that could happen in real life but good luck for you that you know something fishy going on and you can deal with it. I bet that lot of people out there actually facing something like ntr thing in their real life but don't know what exactly going on. But haters you should be glad that you know what ntr is and how to deal with it. And again it's just a game and you are just jerking of thinking about your fantasy and you can also avoid or skip if you hate too much.
Woman can't impregnate another woman, so obviously we need to apply different standard. Emotional side is more similar, although emotions have base in reality so it's applies too. Idk what sexism means rn, but it's just common sense.
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Neither can a man who would only fuck your girl in the ass. So, by curiosity, does this mean that it's OK for her to cheat, as long as she only agree to anal sex, or limit to blowjobs ?
Using the absence of possible pregnancy as reason to make a difference between a girl cheating with a guy and the same girl cheating with another girl is just stupid. Either you agree to both possibilities, or you disagree to both. But making a difference imply that you don't trust your girl, and also don't understand that it's not because it's another girl, that she can't leave you for her ; whatever if it's because she felt in love, or because she give her better orgasms.
This being said, why would one fear pregnancy ? If she's stupid enough to do it raw with someone else that her guy, she'll be more likely to come back with STD than with a baby.