RPGM Defenestration [v0.5f hotfix] [Fresh Mulan]

[CoalBurner]

Remember when this was a cool game about a retrofuture USSR and a main character who wasn't sure what side she was on?

I miss that game. I am utterly disinterested in the new game about freakshow mammary modifications. I wonder if there's a way to convince Mulan to let someone else continue the original game, while Mulan works on this one.

I can only hope that with the groundwork it looks like mulan has been working on, it will free up time to allow for more proper story development. At the same time, i'm very curious as to how the game might have been different had mulan had all this knowledge and experience back when they started working on the game.
First games from game creators are usually a bit rough around the edges, perhaps in a few years when mulan has finished this game, and considers starting on their second, it won't have such growing pains.

Regardless, all that there is, is to wait and see

Mind you, i'm perhaps biased as i like big tiddies and while i wish we had more like the prison sequence, i also like the farm

 

[Vanko1984]

freakshow mammary modifications

Gonna argee on that one. Most characters have them already big enough, why on earth would you want to make them even bigger, more so to the completely ridiculous sizes. Mind you, drawing and programming that ridiculous sizes are the reason for slowed down developement only Mulan knows for how much, but I guess it's much.
All that time and effort wasted. It could've been spent on developing different looking Red-Kiras. Visually staged pregnancies. Story and events. Different makeups. Clothing. Ah, sweet dreams.

 

[Deleted member 690464]

wow this site is generally abandoned and suddenly turns into a avalanche of feelings.
Although the part of the farm is not the best of the game personally, I think it has a funny story and of course, there is Sharon who is one of my favorite characters and I hope she continues to grow up in the story! (at least in the farm part)
Regarding what many say about the role of patreons in relation to the story, if I may, I think you have to find a balance between doing something that you like as a dev and reach expectations (otherwise this turns to be another horrible job you want to leave as soon as possible, counting the minutes of the office clock). of course this is a easy thing to say, but a difficult thing to confront ... so, I cannot judge, if not simply give an opinion from the comfort of an external situation that Mulan is currently going through (sure, if it is the case)
Either way, Mulan, sharing his feelings so openly makes him a much more human developer than others who simply go to the stock market to withdraw money. he really DOES care, despite what many others here think. actually i think he have to be a really nice person irl
keep going Mulan, you doing right despite everything you can read here. And, again, if i may... never forget why you started this. That's the only way

by the way
impossibleis7 thx for sharing!

 

[Cherubin25]

Gonna argee on that one. Most characters have them already big enough, why on earth would you want to make them even bigger, more so to the completely ridiculous sizes. Mind you, drawing and programming that ridiculous sizes are the reason for slowed down developement only Mulan knows for how much, but I guess it's much.
All that time and effort wasted. It could've been spent on developing different looking Red-Kiras. Visually staged pregnancies. Story and events. Different makeups. Clothing. Ah, sweet dreams.

Its funny that you say that something is wasted time and then come up with other things which other people might consider wasted time.
Which just shows that taste differs.

 

[Vanko1984]

Its funny that you say that something is wasted time and then come up with other things which other people might consider wasted time.
Which just shows that taste differs.

True. But I highly doubt the amount of people that prefer all that titswork over thing I said is that big. To put that much work into a pretty specific kink is a waste in my book while you could put it into some other aspects that doesn't make your characters look ridiculous, for ones, but hell, what would I know, maybe that kink is way more popular then I think.
Suum cuique I guess.

 

[Deleted member 2769762]

Remember when this was a cool game about a retrofuture USSR and a main character who wasn't sure what side she was on?

I miss that game. I am utterly disinterested in the new game about freakshow mammary modifications. I wonder if there's a way to convince Mulan to let someone else continue the original game, while Mulan works on this one.

It's definitely a shame. Discovering this game was like a breath of fresh air. I've given Mulan more money than any other game dev out there because I genuinely believed in the project. The atmosphere and creativity are second to none even after multiple playthroughs and the mind-control/bimbofication aspects are like nothing else out there. Personally I was holding out for updates to the 'new you' story-line which never materialized, instead having to be content with sporadic feature creep that never felt finished or particularly relevant.
I think several whole games could have been made about kira fighting/submitting to the overseer and the shadowy communist system at large, just as a the vivarium, gym, prison and movie studio could all be their own games. Mulan is a far sight more creative than most of the devs on here but as a result needs someone to reign them in - back to reality.

I think I'm finally done with this game. I've spent time and money rooting for mulan but until he's able to reset and focus on clearly defined goals (of his choosing, not those of his patreons) I'm out. The dev of 'female agent' managed to reign himself in after getting similarly distracted which has helped both him and the game so I know its possible.

 

[baneini]

I sometimes when dev seems confused of what humans look like advocate polling people on what design they find appealing.
This seems like a good time to start doing it.

 

[Readerf2b]

I like bizarre modifications personally, most of graphic art use grotesque anyway: anime and theatrical facial expressions, cartoonish violence etc. But, in my opinion, they should have been part of "bad end routes" (if you visit farm only to complete spy questline, you don't get modified and if you start cow questline, you are locked on bad end route) so mulan could have used branching art instead of having all modifications on one doll and in many scenes.

 

[True Draco Heritage]

I personally love the giant tits keep it up

 

[asgir546]

To Mulan:
Your game is great. Never doubt that. From the idea, from the render, from the work done...everything is great.
Yes, it takes time to get the job done, but at least the game doesn't seem to be going downhill: you keep doing things, improving the way the game works, in one word: you're doing your best.

I'm not here since the beginning. Heck, I'm probably here for little more than a year. But I relate to your difficulties in delivering work. I am a porn fanfiction writer, and after the first few spurts of inspiration, it took me years to find a consistent rythm of writing that went hand in hand with my personal life. The important thing about you is that you keep trying to establish a schedule, and that's admirable. Everyone has his own rythm, and you are not a five-people team working full-time on a game.
I'm hyped by the update and give you all my kudos for continuing your work.

Yes, some people leave, some are disappointed, some would want some things to be done before others. After all we all have different tastes. But that doesn't mean you are wrong on your choices. Perhaps, once the part that doesn't please them is done and you focus on things that interest them (for example the central plot), you'll see them coming back, because whatever you do, your game just has "this" touch that makes it particular and endearing. Be it Kira's stupid dialoques, the cranking-up exhibitionism, the silly setting, the awfully-nomenklatural thinking of some people (Imperator, for example), there's something for everyone in your game and this is what makes it wonderful.

Kudos

 

[Cherubin25]

True. But I highly doubt the amount of people that prefer all that titswork over thing I said is that big. To put that much work into a pretty specific kink is a waste in my book while you could put it into some other aspects that doesn't make your characters look ridiculous, for ones, but hell, what would I know, maybe that kink is way more popular then I think.
Suum cuique I guess.

I mean, I am here for the tits. I like the story itself, even if it is a lot of dialogue. (In fact, just because of that, I started a new playthrough, because I wanted to have the biggest tits but Bimbo-Kira was melting my brain, lol.)

From the other things you are mentioned, I can also say that clothing is nothing of interest for me, I tried all the clothes available and I just stick with the black ones you get early on, so I doubt that will change at some point.

But I am also fine with waiting if the Dev wants to add other things than bigger boobs to the game, I am happy that others get their wishes, but I am also grateful for everything regarding Body Modiciation which is added, so I am quite excited about more Boobs.

 

[Readerf2b]

that doesn't mean you are wrong on your choices.

As a writer\artist maybe, but as a developer? Only blizzard could have spend time on a game in infinite numbers, and in the end it didn't end well. As a developer you suppose to find balance between what you want to make and what you are able to.

 

[C.Alex]

Does anyone know how to get the scene with Boris and the beer or is that impossible to get?

 

[Bored247]

I like the setting and the farm definelty doesnt have the same vibe. Hopefully they'll finish tinkering with the back end and finish the story.
If its your first game you learn alot about future proofing your mechanics through experience and ultimately you can always return to the setting.
Difference between western and eastern rpg game makers is they will publish and finish a game, as they know they can always make more games and that each game becomes easier and faster to do whereas western game makers will often string their first project forever and nearly kill themselves stuck and stressing about the faults of their foundation

 

[Readerf2b]

farm definelty doesnt have the same vibe.

Strangely. Because rural life was big part of ussr culture.

 

[Joe Steel]

Strangely. Because rural life was big part of ussr culture.

It was a big part of Russian culture, but Soviet culture tried to make rural life as much like city life as possible (reorganizing farming into industry-like production units, replacing family huts with communal living, etc). The farm in the game is pretty much a Soviet-style farm, however.

 

[slightchance]

P.S: Of course we’ll continue to work on events for Kira, but she’s grown to be quite difficult to manage and we need to upload new versions more regularly.

Then make it less complicated and stop getting sidetracked with additional characters and whatnot PunishedMulan.

Kira should be your #1 priority, not the other way around.
Reduce the layers until you come up with a way to speed up the process. You're supposed to concentrate on the main quest and not waste time with DLCs.
Limit all of Kira's modifications to specific scenes if you have to and explain it with hypnosis, nanobots and/or experimental tissue (akin to a fat suit) instead of going through the hassle of showing every possible change in every scene. Vivarium has one set of clothes and modifications, other locations might have different ones.

 

[Deleted member 690464]

It was a big part of Russian culture, but Soviet culture tried to make rural life as much like city life as possible (reorganizing farming into industry-like production units, replacing family huts with communal living, etc). The farm in the game is pretty much a Soviet-style farm, however.

I happen to be that i currently reading a book by russian writer Maxim Gorky "The childhood", where he talks about his childhood with his grandparents and his elusive mother. the point is that his grandparents lived through the age of servants, and were eventually freed. It is a very sad book really, where the child is raised and beaten by his grandfather, who also systematically mistreats the grandmother to the point of trampling her on the ground.
the grandfather was an old pawn who climb in his hierarchy and managed to have considerable wealth, while the grandmother was the daughter of a servant who had been injured due to the cruel treatment of her feudal lords. therefore, the grandfather always had contempt for her origin since she did not possess the dowry to compensate for her social status
just a comment aside

 

[karlosos]

Remember when this was a cool game about a retrofuture USSR and a main character who wasn't sure what side she was on?

I miss that game. I am utterly disinterested in the new game about freakshow mammary modifications. I wonder if there's a way to convince Mulan to let someone else continue the original game, while Mulan works on this one.

I havnt played any updates for a while, and I too thought it was cool the way the creator poked fun at the former USSR (and current Russia?) and the way the MC was a victim and had to keep dealing with idiots. I like her as she is, with not too many wierd looking body mods, unless they are temporary, and can be reversed of course.

 

[Zizmi]

any preview for an update?