RPGM Defenestration [v0.5h] [Fresh Mulan]

[thegrindisreal]

What should i do first? The Factory quest or Sharon's Vivarium quest?

 

[Kwann]

You want constructive feedback`? ait, heres 3 gripes i have.


- you never seem to finish anything. The new U storyline, what about that? hadnt had any updates to that in ages, i cannot slut it up / bimbo it up there. Theres two rooms with event triggers left and right to it that really get me curious everytime. And thats just an example . Heres a few more: The hacker storyline,the movie/filmstudio storyline . And now you have this big super mega pregnant update in a town. im not gonna sit here "ouhhhhhh thats not mainstory" like some people did.because it clearly is and you can tell if you read. its just not very well thought out. You can go full bimbo with - 100 int and +21652312093 slutyness and i still cannot go to the pillar/stocks on my own accord, i cant choose to randomly fuck someone, i cannot choose to whore myself out like other npcs clearly are, its always a single point thats missing, and none of the storys conclude. Why isnt the analrapist sending me to porntown or making me his own doll slave hes ALMSOT there, why can i not do the new u treatment on my own accord, why if i break in and getcaught on porpuse and get bondaged up in that suit with the dildos and the helmet, do i have to break out instead of taking it for a stat decrease, why do you make a game that tells me i have choices to make, but then dont give me any choices to make, even tho my version of my kira at that point , would do it instantly.

- youre inconsequent. Instead of adding 10000 different body mod's and portrait to e very content youve already made, you add 1000 new expressions exclusively in new content. its so weird having a bimbo mc go to jail and ltierally just not have any scenes change. Less is more,i love the detail but maaaaan you can totally get away with making default face expressions and streamlined work, not everything must be 1000% unique, trustme, this isnt like video editing where youd notice, most hentai games do that for good reasons, mainly cost and time. Make what is already there work, expand on that, add new sections after that. Finish one thing first, then go to the next.

-You force your entire playerbase to play the game every single time it updates. Claires quest has a npc in the gallary that updates your save so you can carry it over, some games have skip functions that are way faster then yours, a new dawn has cheats and accelerated gameplay if you so choose, meanwhile i literally cannot load my 0.49.0 save, if i put it into the folder it just doesnt show up in the game, so i need to replay the entire thign again? ive been doing th at since 0.42. Whats even worse is that without this trial and error i still wouldnt know when to put saves so i have a semi functioning gallery for the good shit. And even worse: at that point i am almost certainly going to be disappointed by the fact that m y current kira looks different from the scenes. That reminds me, do you know what another problem is? You have very hard statchecks in the game that do NOT have alternative ways around it, so you cant even play this game as a sandbox. you are required to do certain content in a row because theres no way to consistenly upgrade stats or decrease stats. i cannot do the gym first to see if the gym content is sick because i need a perversion level at -8. Dont you think that for yourself too, it would just be easier ot make those stats more feasibly grindable atleast now where the game isnt quite complete, till all the content is in place so people actually can choose what they wanna do instead of having to replay the entire thing in the same order? dont you think streamlining those stat checks or putting in ways (like the dum bitch juice, again you can remove this later, when the content thats clearly missing now, is there) that increase stats *fast* (as well as money, since money is always an issue) or atleast controlled (compared to now which locks them behind progression and specific events rather then random ones or just working or actually just taking the grind like going out in the night is pointless. the guy in the park that changes location is pointless etc because even if i do that content it doesnt change anything so might as well not do it) is a easy way for you to find bugs faster as well as us reporting them faster?

Game still breaks quite frequently, can i even take a bath in the gym? what about the incel meetup in the night? theres no follow up to any of it, why tease it if we literally dont even interact with it?how hard is it really to have a switch ( i know how rpgm works) that allows you to repeat scenes when talking to npcs again, you can go everywhere again and again so its not like this is a logistical impossibility. Work on your core gameplay first, work on your systems first, then polish them, dont polish them now just so you have to start again and extend them by 6000% later down, thats an exponential workload increase that WILL kill this project. TRUST me.

I am honestly just sick and tired of having to replay the entire thing because even in my speedruns it takes me a solid hour,the lack of gallery feature or replay feature literally makes it so that i cant explore other paths without feeling like i waste my time.Workflow and streamlining is soooooooooooo important, yo uwanna know how important streamlining is? germany lost world war 2 because they didnt do it. (okaybad joke, but its actually true, germany handcrafted every tank, every cog, everything by hand, while the russians and americans were shitting out shermans and t26 on an assembly line, it was actually atrocious. IN this scenario, you are the tiger tank, take some shortcuts/general faces/now,the level of detail you strife for is great, but also unnessessary right now,because thats part of polish (e.g. version0.99) and not part of the current dev cicle youre in. Do NOT go for low hanging fruits like yandere dev, get the systems in place first, every single time you patch a new anything in you have to go back and change everything, no, put it all in first, then change it, nobody, and i repeat , nobody, is gonna tell you that youre shit for doing a bit of samefacing because everyone is doing it, because if they were not doing it they would never finish, andm ost people change it later as previously stated.)

i dont wanna insult you by assuming things but i have a sincere question

do you have a design document with a flowchart, is it outlined completely at all, because, with every patch i think its not, and if you have one, have you considered revisiting it or streamlining it? if you want i can help with that, fuck it ido it for free, pro bono and i have no fucking job atm since covid happened.

Fuck man, you put more thought into that then I did on my last college exam...

 

[AftermathARVIE]

Fuck man, you put more thought into that then I did on my last college exam...

you should wait till u see my history uni exam

if i ever have one because i cant attend uni.

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

Fuck man, you put more thought into that then I did on my last college exam...

but honestly, probably the only constructive criticism so far rather than "you are a shitty dev"

 

[callriv]

bet you are kind of a guy that asks for a free logo

Sorry, mate. "bet you are kind of a guy that asks for a free logo" no idea what this means, But I am the kinda guy who after giving his money wants to get some results, as pretty much any fucking person on earth apart from you I guess.

 

[AftermathARVIE]

I wanna state this once more for the record freshmulan:

IREALLY adore this game, ive went through it every version since 0.3X (just checked my earliest achieve still on the plate) sometimes multiple times, this is nothing but criticism out of sheer respect for your work .i want you to succeed, not fail.

 

[Ragnar123456]

is there a gallery for this game

 

[AR21]

Is the Mosfilm part closed or something? I can't access the bus, says the route ends there

 

[AriaZaia]

Is the Mosfilm part closed or something? I can't access the bus, says the route ends there

yeah, used to be events there but was closed after the art overhaul and since the new art for those events hasnt been done yet, mulan just closed off the area

 

[PULALAU1]

when the fuck will be the bus station finish

 

[Nymphonomicon]

Save from previous version is unusable?

My 4.9 save worked fine.

 

[PULALAU1]

stop making use play the game over and over again on every update , and when we are gona see a gallery

 

[Nymphonomicon]

when the fuck will be the bus station finish

Vivarium comes first.

 

[vahe]

Since the game doesn't have a gallery feature, does anyone have a saves before sex scenes? Also a save that can jump right into the new content would be great, thanks in advance

yeah this would be cool

or we could just get a gallery hint hint

 

[Readerf2b]

The worst decision was to make customizable heroine. If you have made her body change according to route that player had chosen, than you would have much less job without actually loosing anything, because its hard to imagine strange player that will customize bimbo on slut route or play smart route with all cow mods. And it will be strange to not go to full modifications on route.

 

[BeccaBoo]

You want constructive feedback`? ait, heres 3 gripes i have.


- you never seem to finish anything. The new U storyline, what about that? hadnt had any updates to that in ages, i cannot slut it up / bimbo it up there. Theres two rooms with event triggers left and right to it that really get me curious everytime. And thats just an example . Heres a few more: The hacker storyline,the movie/filmstudio storyline . And now you have this big super mega pregnant update in a town. im not gonna sit here "ouhhhhhh thats not mainstory" like some people did.because it clearly is and you can tell if you read. its just not very well thought out. You can go full bimbo with - 100 int and +21652312093 slutyness and i still cannot go to the pillar/stocks on my own accord, i cant choose to randomly fuck someone, i cannot choose to whore myself out like other npcs clearly are, its always a single point thats missing, and none of the storys conclude. Why isnt the analrapist sending me to porntown or making me his own doll slave hes ALMSOT there, why can i not do the new u treatment on my own accord, why if i break in and getcaught on porpuse and get bondaged up in that suit with the dildos and the helmet, do i have to break out instead of taking it for a stat decrease, why do you make a game that tells me i have choices to make, but then dont give me any choices to make, even tho my version of my kira at that point , would do it instantly.

- youre inconsequent. Instead of adding 10000 different body mod's and portrait to e very content youve already made, you add 1000 new expressions exclusively in new content. its so weird having a bimbo mc go to jail and ltierally just not have any scenes change. Less is more,i love the detail but maaaaan you can totally get away with making default face expressions and streamlined work, not everything must be 1000% unique, trustme, this isnt like video editing where youd notice, most hentai games do that for good reasons, mainly cost and time. Make what is already there work, expand on that, add new sections after that. Finish one thing first, then go to the next.

-You force your entire playerbase to play the game every single time it updates. Claires quest has a npc in the gallary that updates your save so you can carry it over, some games have skip functions that are way faster then yours, a new dawn has cheats and accelerated gameplay if you so choose, meanwhile i literally cannot load my 0.49.0 save, if i put it into the folder it just doesnt show up in the game, so i need to replay the entire thign again? ive been doing th at since 0.42. Whats even worse is that without this trial and error i still wouldnt know when to put saves so i have a semi functioning gallery for the good shit. And even worse: at that point i am almost certainly going to be disappointed by the fact that m y current kira looks different from the scenes. That reminds me, do you know what another problem is? You have very hard statchecks in the game that do NOT have alternative ways around it, so you cant even play this game as a sandbox. you are required to do certain content in a row because theres no way to consistenly upgrade stats or decrease stats. i cannot do the gym first to see if the gym content is sick because i need a perversion level at -8. Dont you think that for yourself too, it would just be easier ot make those stats more feasibly grindable atleast now where the game isnt quite complete, till all the content is in place so people actually can choose what they wanna do instead of having to replay the entire thing in the same order? dont you think streamlining those stat checks or putting in ways (like the dum bitch juice, again you can remove this later, when the content thats clearly missing now, is there) that increase stats *fast* (as well as money, since money is always an issue) or atleast controlled (compared to now which locks them behind progression and specific events rather then random ones or just working or actually just taking the grind like going out in the night is pointless. the guy in the park that changes location is pointless etc because even if i do that content it doesnt change anything so might as well not do it) is a easy way for you to find bugs faster as well as us reporting them faster?

Game still breaks quite frequently, can i even take a bath in the gym? what about the incel meetup in the night? theres no follow up to any of it, why tease it if we literally dont even interact with it?how hard is it really to have a switch ( i know how rpgm works) that allows you to repeat scenes when talking to npcs again, you can go everywhere again and again so its not like this is a logistical impossibility. Work on your core gameplay first, work on your systems first, then polish them, dont polish them now just so you have to start again and extend them by 6000% later down, thats an exponential workload increase that WILL kill this project. TRUST me.

I am honestly just sick and tired of having to replay the entire thing because even in my speedruns it takes me a solid hour,the lack of gallery feature or replay feature literally makes it so that i cant explore other paths without feeling like i waste my time.Workflow and streamlining is soooooooooooo important, yo uwanna know how important streamlining is? germany lost world war 2 because they didnt do it. (okaybad joke, but its actually true, germany handcrafted every tank, every cog, everything by hand, while the russians and americans were shitting out shermans and t26 on an assembly line, it was actually atrocious. IN this scenario, you are the tiger tank, take some shortcuts/general faces/now,the level of detail you strife for is great, but also unnessessary right now,because thats part of polish (e.g. version0.99) and not part of the current dev cicle youre in. Do NOT go for low hanging fruits like yandere dev, get the systems in place first, every single time you patch a new anything in you have to go back and change everything, no, put it all in first, then change it, nobody, and i repeat , nobody, is gonna tell you that youre shit for doing a bit of samefacing because everyone is doing it, because if they were not doing it they would never finish, andm ost people change it later as previously stated.)

i dont wanna insult you by assuming things but i have a sincere question

do you have a design document with a flowchart, is it outlined completely at all, because, with every patch i think its not, and if you have one, have you considered revisiting it or streamlining it? if you want i can help with that, fuck it ido it for free, pro bono and i have no fucking job atm since covid happened.

You are so right I would love this comment 10 times over. if I could. I have played Defenestration since it's first release and have previously been a Patreon for several months. When the game was first released it was filled with fantastic content and ideas and there were lots of them. Then the delays started happening, don't get me wrong as far as I am concerned the dev is in charge of their own game and if there are delays, provided they keep their paying supporters informed, then what does it really matter. Us freebie seekers just have to wait and not complain.
I was initially sucked in by the storyline and with the anticiapation of the New You quests and a little further down the line the Movie Star. I seem to remember one of the updates from long ago finishing under the city as Kira got infected if she sat in some sort of machine..........then there was delay after delay and now there is suddenly a farm amongst other things but no mention of the previous storyline. What happened to the main backbone of the original story? There was so much that could and should have been done with that story arc before heading off and creating separate paths but unfortunately it has now all blurred and the orginal anticipation has now gone.
I do agree with everything else you have said but for me the shift away from the early main story is what has stopped me playing.

 

[AftermathARVIE]

words, tl:wontcopy

the issue i have with the sudden change in story is the W HEN, WHEN it happens, it happens at a point where you can choose, however at that point you are also not completely done with analrapist, with new you, wit hthe prison arc (you maybehavent even started) or even the p owerplant yet, and the implications of what happens in mootown( i forgot the name, sorry) are so big that you cant transition back and forth. im worried that this is gonna happen:

because you can branch this early, mulan realizes that you can be a bimbo first and then a cow,which is accounted for, and after that, a cow first,and then a bimbo, which isnt accounted for. Or cannon kgb kira that becomes a cow because of a fuckup, whcih also isnt accoutned for, and this exponential red line will draw itself through the entire game till mulan will abandon the project beacusehe needs 500 pics for one scene which is random guy sex in the alleyway or something like that. Modularity is so important, just be modular about it, and do object oriented p rogramming, and yes, RPGM cfan pull taht off, fairly easily even.

 

[seraph1995]

Dang cant install the android version... keeps getting deleted right after downloading from MEGA.

 

[Deleted member 1356453]

You want constructive feedback`? ait, heres 3 gripes i have.


- you never seem to finish anything. The new U storyline, what about that? hadnt had any updates to that in ages, i cannot slut it up / bimbo it up there. Theres two rooms with event triggers left and right to it that really get me curious everytime. And thats just an example . Heres a few more: The hacker storyline,the movie/filmstudio storyline . And now you have this big super mega pregnant update in a town. im not gonna sit here "ouhhhhhh thats not mainstory" like some people did.because it clearly is and you can tell if you read. its just not very well thought out. You can go full bimbo with - 100 int and +21652312093 slutyness and i still cannot go to the pillar/stocks on my own accord, i cant choose to randomly fuck someone, i cannot choose to whore myself out like other npcs clearly are, its always a single point thats missing, and none of the storys conclude. Why isnt the analrapist sending me to porntown or making me his own doll slave hes ALMSOT there, why can i not do the new u treatment on my own accord, why if i break in and getcaught on porpuse and get bondaged up in that suit with the dildos and the helmet, do i have to break out instead of taking it for a stat decrease, why do you make a game that tells me i have choices to make, but then dont give me any choices to make, even tho my version of my kira at that point , would do it instantly.

- youre inconsequent. Instead of adding 10000 different body mod's and portrait to e very content youve already made, you add 1000 new expressions exclusively in new content. its so weird having a bimbo mc go to jail and ltierally just not have any scenes change. Less is more,i love the detail but maaaaan you can totally get away with making default face expressions and streamlined work, not everything must be 1000% unique, trustme, this isnt like video editing where youd notice, most hentai games do that for good reasons, mainly cost and time. Make what is already there work, expand on that, add new sections after that. Finish one thing first, then go to the next.

-You force your entire playerbase to play the game every single time it updates. Claires quest has a npc in the gallary that updates your save so you can carry it over, some games have skip functions that are way faster then yours, a new dawn has cheats and accelerated gameplay if you so choose, meanwhile i literally cannot load my 0.49.0 save, if i put it into the folder it just doesnt show up in the game, so i need to replay the entire thign again? ive been doing th at since 0.42. Whats even worse is that without this trial and error i still wouldnt know when to put saves so i have a semi functioning gallery for the good shit. And even worse: at that point i am almost certainly going to be disappointed by the fact that m y current kira looks different from the scenes. That reminds me, do you know what another problem is? You have very hard statchecks in the game that do NOT have alternative ways around it, so you cant even play this game as a sandbox. you are required to do certain content in a row because theres no way to consistenly upgrade stats or decrease stats. i cannot do the gym first to see if the gym content is sick because i need a perversion level at -8. Dont you think that for yourself too, it would just be easier ot make those stats more feasibly grindable atleast now where the game isnt quite complete, till all the content is in place so people actually can choose what they wanna do instead of having to replay the entire thing in the same order? dont you think streamlining those stat checks or putting in ways (like the dum bitch juice, again you can remove this later, when the content thats clearly missing now, is there) that increase stats *fast* (as well as money, since money is always an issue) or atleast controlled (compared to now which locks them behind progression and specific events rather then random ones or just working or actually just taking the grind like going out in the night is pointless. the guy in the park that changes location is pointless etc because even if i do that content it doesnt change anything so might as well not do it) is a easy way for you to find bugs faster as well as us reporting them faster?

Game still breaks quite frequently, can i even take a bath in the gym? what about the incel meetup in the night? theres no follow up to any of it, why tease it if we literally dont even interact with it?how hard is it really to have a switch ( i know how rpgm works) that allows you to repeat scenes when talking to npcs again, you can go everywhere again and again so its not like this is a logistical impossibility. Work on your core gameplay first, work on your systems first, then polish them, dont polish them now just so you have to start again and extend them by 6000% later down, thats an exponential workload increase that WILL kill this project. TRUST me.

I am honestly just sick and tired of having to replay the entire thing because even in my speedruns it takes me a solid hour,the lack of gallery feature or replay feature literally makes it so that i cant explore other paths without feeling like i waste my time.Workflow and streamlining is soooooooooooo important, yo uwanna know how important streamlining is? germany lost world war 2 because they didnt do it. (okaybad joke, but its actually true, germany handcrafted every tank, every cog, everything by hand, while the russians and americans were shitting out shermans and t26 on an assembly line, it was actually atrocious. IN this scenario, you are the tiger tank, take some shortcuts/general faces/now,the level of detail you strife for is great, but also unnessessary right now,because thats part of polish (e.g. version0.99) and not part of the current dev cicle youre in. Do NOT go for low hanging fruits like yandere dev, get the systems in place first, every single time you patch a new anything in you have to go back and change everything, no, put it all in first, then change it, nobody, and i repeat , nobody, is gonna tell you that youre shit for doing a bit of samefacing because everyone is doing it, because if they were not doing it they would never finish, andm ost people change it later as previously stated.)

i dont wanna insult you by assuming things but i have a sincere question

do you have a design document with a flowchart, is it outlined completely at all, because, with every patch i think its not, and if you have one, have you considered revisiting it or streamlining it? if you want i can help with that, fuck it ido it for free, pro bono and i have no fucking job atm since covid happened.

man you are in despair, i will jerk you off personally!

 

[AftermathARVIE]

man you are in despair, i will jerk you off personally!

DW about me, my dry spell started with corona and will end with corona.