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What's the "gay" contents in this game, sissy or femboy?The current gay content in the game is optional, and we will be adding a option to opt out for those that don't want that
Why even add "gay" content, If you plan to make "gay" so excluded? Why only adding a option to opt out gay content, but not hetero content.
The game is very new, and there's little content, but it looks good.
I'm only here for the gay content, so i have a suggestion for the devs, make it easier to find.
I found all the girls storylines, before i gave up and searched the game files for it.
all the girls stories can be started by talking with them, but with Nico which is the only gay option so far, you have to go to the climbing wall during Daytime two times and on the second time try to climb it, there's no warning that this will start Nico's storyline, and it goes directly to an explicit scene with Nico, which is bad for the str8 players who don't want to see it and find it accidentally, and bad for players looking for it because there wasn't any hint about it.
with the girls if you click on their cabins when they are not there, it tells them where they are, and with Nico it also does the same, but it doesn't tell you to go to the climbing wall so that you can start his story.
aside from that, i'm looking forward to seeing more from this game.
I'm only here for the gay content, so i have a suggestion for the devs, make it easier to find.
I found all the girls storylines, before i gave up and searched the game files for it.
all the girls stories can be started by talking with them, but with Nico which is the only gay option so far, you have to go to the climbing wall during Daytime two times and on the second time try to climb it, there's no warning that this will start Nico's storyline, and it goes directly to an explicit scene with Nico, which is bad for the str8 players who don't want to see it and find it accidentally, and bad for players looking for it because there wasn't any hint about it.
with the girls if you click on their cabins when they are not there, it tells them where they are, and with Nico it also does the same, but it doesn't tell you to go to the climbing wall so that you can start his story.
aside from that, i'm looking forward to seeing more from this game.
That depends on the vision the dev has of the game. Plenty of games have gay avoidable content (that is, usually an almost 100% straight game with a light sprinkle of gay or gay-adjacent sex scenes), so it's definitely not unheard-of, no need to be aggressive.
Of course, a couple of people already asked if it's also straight-avoidable, so let's see what the dev can tell us.
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We are looking into making straight content avoidable, but to be perfectly honest you've hit the nail on the head. A lot of the in game content centers around the hetero content, meaning its tied in with the main story, etc. So if we did put in an option to skip it, it would likely make the game either unplayable, or just completely nonsensical. The game was first and foremost planned to be a hetero game. Though I will say that the considerable support for the Gay content has surprised even me, and I'm looking into including more of it within the game.
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Thanks for the honest clarification. As mentioned, it is your game and your vision. Personally, I feel less cheated if a game is fully straight or if the gay content, even if when it is the minority, is sensibly inserted so that the game is enjoyable by a gay audience even if they're not at the centre of the story. The worst is when there are just a couple of gay scenes, maybe not even full sex, that are just pasted there without much logic or just to titillate the gay audience without giving them actual content. I think we are at a moment where there are a decent number of good gay games out there, so half-baked content is not that attractive anymore and almost borderline insulting.
If you feel comfortable, please have fun and try to shape interesting gay path(s), but you shouldn't feel forced to. As I said, better nothing than something half-assed (in my opinion).
Now that my boy Percy is single, Nico is going to get his trident
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That's basically what I want to say / find out from the dev.
We (me at least) don't actually want to skip the contents, as it takes away the full experience of the game. - That said, tpxdelta you can still have the option to skip "only sex scenes" if you really care about all your audience with different sexual orientations.
But there's just too many "almost 100% straight game with a light sprinkle of gay or gay-adjacent sex scenes - which is normally half-baked or worse". So it becomes "trick people who seeking 'gay game' to spend their time for nothing" - which is borderline insulting.
But is seems it's still too early to define if it's a "inclusive porn game", or a "straight exclusive"...
Just like perles75 said, dev please develop the game according to your vision - what's unique is what make your game stand out. Don't feel you need to forcefully add something cuz other games do.I once searched for the gay tag but blocked some straight content* options (since you can only exclude 10 tags max) and the end result was literally only 10 pages instead of 21. The amount of straight porn I've had to see when looking for gay games is astonishing and extremely disappointing. Makes me wonder why some devs even put in gay scenes at all if the straight ones aren't also avoidable since I doubt that straight players are going out of their way to find gay content (since all "gay-inclusive" games have the same "is gay avoidable" comment that always gets replied to with a yes).
*I also excluded tags with sissification since the person that gets "sissified" just ends up as a trans woman which makes it straight again
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That's basically what I want to say / find out from the dev.
We (me at least) don't actually want to skip the contents, as it takes away the full experience of the game. - That said, tpxdelta you can still have the option to skip "only sex scenes" if you really care about all your audience with different sexual orientations.
But there's just too many "almost 100% straight game with a light sprinkle of gay or gay-adjacent sex scenes - which is normally half-baked or worse". So it becomes "trick people who seeking 'gay game' to spend their time for nothing" - which is borderline insulting.
But is seems it's still too early to define if it's a "inclusive porn game", or a "straight exclusive"...
Yeah, I've been there. I think a lot of it comes from the games shooting for a Bi audience, rather than strictly a gay one. I'll talk with my programmer and discuss matters further. I can't commit to anything at the moment. I will say that I won't have the gay scenes / routes as tiny or insignificant compared to the hetero ones. They are being worked on with the same care and diligence, and we will try to be as inclusive as possible while still staying true to the vision we have.
And to be clear, the gay content isnt "sissy, femboy, trans fem" etc, it is male on male.
If I may offer an option that I think would fit with your game without changing too much of existing content. One approach to weave it in would be to add an option after Percy blurts out he is a stalker. The option could be to try and have Percy "recover" and make it worse by blurting out something akin to "not in a bad way! I'm gay!" when he does think he is straight. This would lock Percy into male or female routes.
The current straight content can then mostly remain unchanged with maybe minor dialogue changes, and future stuff can just play it off as them being friends rather than partners and replace makeout/sex scenes with like a hug.
Then one of the gay routes (Connor Stoll? Since you probably don't want to change Nico too much) can be about Percy realizing that he is actually gay. The "non-gay" route allows access to everything at first and then in an early convo you can confirm whether you are bisexual (all content open) or straight (lock out gay content).
However, I recognize this is probably a LOT of work and honestly won't mind just like leaving it as is but ensuring there is substantive gay content rather than one minor route or scene that a lot of games do. Like the potential seems there for a few guys already (Connor and Will).
Another option (also work heavily however) would be just to break the forth wall early on and have you choose if you want to be gay, and if so then maybe Annabeth, Hazel and Piper get kidnapped instead and their routes are replaced by Jason, Leo and Frank with almost the same general storylines for each just adapted slightly (i.e. Jason in Jupiter cabin instead of Annabeths' athena. Maybe Frank replace Piper with the confidence/nudity, etc).
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It's more complicated for me. Although being a gay, I don't mind "straight sex scenes" as long as the whole game is solid, or the male part is very hot / a big focus. (to name a few, LonaRPG, Kingdom of Deception.) Not to mention those "inclusive porn games" that have a huge variety like Flexible Survival, Trials in Tainted Space, or Lust for Adventure.
If excluding tags only because they are not gay, I'd miss out a lot of good games.
Sadly, 99% of the "straight game with a light sprinkle of half-assed gay scenes" has none of those, only straight porn with massive emphasize on females / feminization / sissification. So there's really nothing for anyone who's not into straight sex.
Hence the question "why even add very insignificant amount of gay contents to put it on gay's radar when you don't actually offer anything to them."
Tho it seems it's not the case of this game. Good luck on the development, looking forward to see more.
Go to the climbing wall in the morning and use the hourglass to wait. When prompted to try climbing, do it. This will unlock Nico's arc.
How much of the Nico arc is in the game already? Had the "advice" scene, and then nothing after when he says to come back the next night.