Nullx54

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Something I've been thinking over for sometime now is that the real problem with the update was that it's a two pronged issue that anyone who belongs to a certain group of fans will see the issue that bothers them.

First of all, the update was too short relative to the time between the last one, that alone is the obvious issue.

The second issue is that there are people that still want to have the family get fucked, never mind that the cousin was the first to get boned. The padding in the story does not help when people's patience is tested, especially in H-games.

When you have the first problem and then add the second, you're gonna get a clusterfuck of an update that has little payoff regarding the slow burn and people feeling robbed over it.

If Bredman made the update sooner or had a lot more content in it, or excuse the slow burn defenders, had the family finally get the rod properly people would have been happy. Understandably the animation does take quite bit of time when it's as good as it is but real issue is the over half a year gap between the last update. If an update takes that long to be released then there is issues either due to the dev being lazy, injuries, or other matters that prevents them from releasing updates consistently.

As a rule of thumb, updates should have a 1 to 4 months cycle because otherwise the time it takes to release it will make people anxious, suspicious of grifting or just forget about it.
 
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Can someone help me? the screen in my game is fixed and i cant navigate through the scenarios, i tried the screen fix in the config but it doesn't worked
 

Ojbal

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Ashley and Leslie were great in this update. I do get the point of those who want the updates to take less time, I wish Breadman could deliver this good (or better) in less time but I wouldn't like to see shortened scenes nor less stuff due to that.
 

MacLovin'

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Something I've been thinking over for sometime now is that the real problem with the update was that it's a two pronged issue that anyone who belongs to a certain group of fans will see the issue that bothers them.

First of all, the update was too short relative to the time between the last one, that alone is the obvious issue.

The second issue is that there are people that still want to have the family get fucked, never mind that the cousin was the first to get boned. The padding in the story does not help when people's patience is tested, especially in H-games.

When you have the first problem and then add the second, you're gonna get a clusterfuck of an update that has little payoff regarding the slow burn and people feeling robbed over it.

If Bredman made the update sooner or had a lot more content in it, or excuse the slow burn defenders, had the family finally get the rod properly people would have been happy. Understandably the animation does take quite bit of time when it's as good as it is but real issue is the over half a year gap between the last update. If an update takes that long to be released then there is issues either due to the dev being lazy, injuries, or other matters that prevents them from releasing updates consistently.

As a rule of thumb, updates should have a 1 to 4 months cycle because otherwise the time it takes to release it will make people anxious, suspicious of grifting or just forget about it.
But the people who complain aren’t paying for it lmao. So how the hell is game due to them? How the hell is boning the family as soon as possible due to them?
And even for people who pay, the deal isn’t that if you pay you get a right to harass the dev every week.

Also the sow burn and slow releases is in the damn contract from the beginning. The dev team has been adamant for years that it was the way things were. So I don’t understand what everybody’s expecting really.

Saying you’re frustrated with the pace of the releases is one thing (and it’s fine with me as long as it doesn’t get personal and repetitive), and it’s only human.
Being a moron who trashes every update for being too short while still playing the game every time and expecting things to magically become what they aren’t is another thing.
Actually it’s a victim mentality. You’re disappointed and dissatisfied with something and yet you come back to it every time lol. If Bread is such a lazy money milking dev then stop playing
 
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pisstaker

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A thing that I've noticed from some of the people bitching.
It's often new accounts with less than 10 posts, and it's always the same tired script;
"the dev is greedy, he is milking his fans, (I don't donate to him tho) no sex yet, nothing on the update"

These outsiders (or ban evaders/smurf accounts) are literally creating accounts just to bitch, beg, and moan.
I also think these people are perpetual "ctrl pressers", they just skip all the dialog and go straight to the scenes and if there is no penis entering a vagina, the scene doesn't count.
 

RiffRaff0682

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Something I've been thinking over for sometime now is that the real problem with the update was that it's a two pronged issue that anyone who belongs to a certain group of fans will see the issue that bothers them.

First of all, the update was too short relative to the time between the last one, that alone is the obvious issue.

The second issue is that there are people that still want to have the family get fucked, never mind that the cousin was the first to get boned. The padding in the story does not help when people's patience is tested, especially in H-games.

When you have the first problem and then add the second, you're gonna get a clusterfuck of an update that has little payoff regarding the slow burn and people feeling robbed over it.

If Bredman made the update sooner or had a lot more content in it, or excuse the slow burn defenders, had the family finally get the rod properly people would have been happy. Understandably the animation does take quite bit of time when it's as good as it is but real issue is the over half a year gap between the last update. If an update takes that long to be released then there is issues either due to the dev being lazy, injuries, or other matters that prevents them from releasing updates consistently.

As a rule of thumb, updates should have a 1 to 4 months cycle because otherwise the time it takes to release it will make people anxious, suspicious of grifting or just forget about it.

Well, Breadman did injure his drawing shoulder, and it hasn't fully healed, so that has partly slowed him down.
However, I challange you to draw 750 high quality drawings, and around 25 animations at 15-25 images each in 6 months whilst also having a life. Go on, I'll wait.

(By the By, he injured his shoulder trying to catch up to his own deadlines and pushing too hard)
I'll take a slightly slower update cycle to a faster one where he burns out/injures himself to the point he can't draw and thus can't finish the game.

And your 1-4 month update cycle... There are 3 things to an update. Speed of Release, Quality of Content, Amount of Content.

You get to pick 2 of those. You can't have all three, not unless you have a whole studio backing you. At which point you're running a business and not doing a passion project.
 

Unkown312

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Everything worked fine for me, but at one point the screen stopped following the character. You can play but areas are not visible and it is very difficult.Is there some fix?
 

Zakko

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"The camera broke"
That was fixed very quickly in a beta hotfix patch, and is of course also fixed in the public version you can get right now.

Should you not have a save from before it broke, we even added a debug option in the phone to reset the camera.
 

pisstaker

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General thoughts on this update.

I don't think people give the devs enough credit for how much "in-between" artwork there is. People focus too much on the "action scenes" when there is so much eroticism, build-up, and character development to be found. These CGs are so much better than looking at the character portraits for 10 minutes while they deliver non-stop dialog, it's a level of extra quality that really elevates the game.
The amount of CGs here is on par with 3DCG renders you find in DAZ games, and those are much easier to set up in comparison to hand-drawn artwork. Seriously, the changelog says there are 775+ images drawn for this update, the average quantity of a quality finished h-game on DLsite is way less than half of that. It is unbelievable how clueless people are for calling this guy lazy.

The dev really upped the ante with Ashley, straight to BJ even. I thought she had a lot of screentime for so little action but now she is up to speed with the other main family members. I hope this opens the doors for more riskier scenarios now that all family girls have officially engaged with the MC.

Brandy is a very curious character in my opinion. She clearly will never be one of the "main girls" but instead the devs decided to make her character entirely focused on her incest kink, which in turn makes the MC's relationship with the other family members even hotter, she is like a side dish that complements the main course. It's unusual to see a porn game take this approach to writing since most of the time each girl lives in a vacuum. Great writing.

Despite Lilith not being one of my fav girl, I'm always looking forward to her non-sexual scenes, she is the most complex character in this game. She is integral to the corruption, and my favorite scenes are watching her manipulate the ones around the MC to serve her objectives, delightfully devilish.

On the topic of Lilith, she gifting Leslie with sex powers and transforming the MC into a demon sex pest were not in my bingo. I don't know how I didn't notice this before, but this opened the doors to all kinds of fantastical scenarios since you can use "magic". So if anyone has hope for outlandish scenarios like "futa Leslie and MC DPing Ashley", "Brainwash the entire school into a giant orgy", or "MC grows a second dick". All these things are possible now, the sky is the limit.

My only critique would be to find more ways to reuse scenes in Freeroam. A lot of good artwork and animations are stuck in the gallery and with some code/writing, these scenes could be repurposed into repeatable scenarios around the map. If the devs are feeling daring, they could even code emergent events like a character calling the MC asking to come around. You know, more stuff to do in-between missions.
 
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Zakko

Lead Developer of Demon Deals
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General thoughts on this update.
Appreciate the appreciation you have for all the art that helps sell the scenes!

As for the critique regarding reusing scenes. We will be doing this where it makes sense, and it's possible stuff where it didn't make sense will make sense to do later. That was a mouthful, so to give an example:

Ashley's new content. It's very specific to the whole situation she was in in this update. Lore-wise it doesn't make sense to be able to play these scenes again in anything but a replay. But perhaps in the future when you have progressed with Ashley, it might make sense to add those scenes outside of the replay room and re-use the animations.
 

CoconutBayBro

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Hey BreadManGames Just wanna give you and your team, Zakko and GhostMoth, props for another great update. This update was pretty much about progressing the story, driven with a heavy emphasis on Blowjobs. Ashley scenes were top notch while Leslie looked stunning in her dinner dress and her playful teasing behind Paul's back was chefs kiss. Grabbing Lilith by the horns was a delightfully devilish experience :devilish:

The animations scenes continue to evolve and leave me impressed. Even with the BJ galore, my favorite one was Leslie's Bra Titfuck (Keep the Leslie Titfucks rolling Bread :love:)

It's been almost 2 years since I've followed your work and I say this with a good experience from following porn games where a lot of them have been underwhelming, rushed and straight up disappointing. DD is definately the best and most engaging porn game I've played till now. I want you guys to be proud of the dedication and time spent on this project you built knowing you got not just me but a lot of folks waiting patiently for your efforts to come into bloom in the future.

I'm already hyped and awaiting for the next update. Also since this update was a gift to BJ lovers, I would love to see an update (Maybe in V0.07.5) centered around Tittyfucks with Best Tits Trio to me: Dr.Faust, Officer Juggs, and more Leslie.:p
 

pisstaker

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Appreciate the appreciation you have for all the art that helps sell the scenes!

As for the critique regarding reusing scenes. We will be doing this where it makes sense, and it's possible stuff where it didn't make sense will make sense to do later. That was a mouthful, so to give an example:

Ashley's new content. It's very specific to the whole situation she was in in this update. Lore-wise it doesn't make sense to be able to play these scenes again in anything but a replay. But perhaps in the future when you have progressed with Ashley, it might make sense to add those scenes outside of the replay room and re-use the animations.
I understand, and making scenes with the idea of "repurposing" in the future would limit yourselves creatively and I'm happy you already have plans for this in the future.

I do think it's still possible that in some scenes, repurposing them would be seamless if this was already in the plans before drawing them. For example this update finale, Leslie deepthroat; If she had her normal hair and no pearl necklace, that scene could be entirely repurposed for free roam.

In the end, it will always be your call, this is just my "minimize cost and maximize output" mentality talking.
 
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Zakko

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I do think it's still possible that in some scenes, repurposing them would be seamless if this was already in the plans before drawing them. For example this update finale, Leslie deepthroat; If she had her normal hair and no pearl necklace, that scene could be entirely repurposed for free roam.
It gets a bit wordy to address every scenario, but suffice it to say we'll likely make it happen for the cases where it makes sense. But for those cases, it may not be possible immediately in the same update, either because of the current state of the involved character(s) lore-wise, or because of time-constraints.
 

OROGooner

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I would love to see an update (Maybe in V0.07.5) centered around Tittyfucks with Best Tits Trio to me: Dr.Faust, Officer Juggs, and more Leslie.:p
Hmmm.......Titfucks.......Juggs.......Faust.......Leslie........Huge......Boobies.......
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Huh sorry what was that again? I was too busy fantasizing your end sentence to bother about anything else. Don't mind me(y)
 
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