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[Panonon]

Looks interesting, but I might touch it once we have like 0.8 or something for more content

Realistically, I think we're closer to version 0.75 as of my last (patron) update.


But to leave room for error, the patron update is up to version 0.6, and once the game is finished I'll probably jump from version 0.7 / 0.8 / wherever I'm at and mark it as 1.0
(after some testing, of course).

For pure les route you could make them consume life energy instead, and i've seen before claims that this is why succubi eat cum.
Just sayin'. Treat this info like a fun piece of trivia.

Yeah that's what I meant.
When Succubi myths came to exist, it is believed to originate from Messopotamia 2400 BC (I had to google the timeframe, don't have that memorized).
Originally they visited you and gave you erotic dreams.
In older times, (roughly around the same time as the witch trials.) Men would even punish their wives for having an affair for having an erotic dream because they believed they had sex with an Incubus.


I don't think there's a lot of information in regards to what messopotamians believed, but it had something to do with their king believed to be an Incubus and visit women in their dreams. <- I double checked this before submitting, apparently this is believed but there's no evidence to support it so not really guaranteed that it's true.

At some point it became Incubi and Succubi would steal energy from their hosts.

At another point that energy source became semen for Succubi. Not entirely sure for Incubi, don't think those changed too much.
(After fact checking myself; Just now found out that Succubi stealing energy via Semen was popularized around the Renaissance period onward. Actually pretty neat to know. I thought it was way sooner than that.)

So yeah, it wouldn't be too farfetched for me to change it to stealing energy and allow Succubi to feed off women. But that would be a lot of story and mechanics to rewrite and I'm not about to do that so close to the end.

A little analogy if you will. You have a bowl pudding and you sit down beside a Chad to enjoy said pudding. Chad stares at your pudding with lust in his eyes and asked if he can have some. A jealous man would say mine, mine, mine....no! A swinger would grab an extra spoon and have a delightful conversation as the two of you partake in your delicious pudding. But a cuck would hand the Chad his own spoon and push the entire bowl in front him. Then after the Chad destroys your pudding you lick the bowl and the spoon clean. I don't eat much pudding but I love watching Chad enjoy it.

I've never really been a big fan of pudding, but I'd eat it on an extremely rare occasion such as a work event where dessert is served.
You somehow managed to move pudding from the dessert scale of "meh" to "repulsive".


Good job.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Yeah that's what I meant.
When Succubi myths came to exist, it is believed to originate from Messopotamia 2400 BC (I had to google the timeframe, don't have that memorized).
Originally they visited you and gave you erotic dreams.
In older times, (roughly around the same time as the witch trials.) Men would even punish their wives for having an affair for having an erotic dream because they believed they had sex with an Incubus.


I don't think there's a lot of information in regards to what messopotamians believed, but it had something to do with their king believed to be an Incubus and visit women in their dreams. <- I double checked this before submitting, apparently this is believed but there's no evidence to support it so not really guaranteed that it's true.

At some point it became Incubi and Succubi would steal energy from their hosts.

At another point that energy source became semen for Succubi. Not entirely sure for Incubi, don't think those changed too much.
(After fact checking myself; Just now found out that Succubi stealing energy via Semen was popularized around the Renaissance period onward. Actually pretty neat to know.)

So yeah, it wouldn't be too farfetched for me to change it to stealing energy and allow Succubi to feed off men. But that would be a lot of story and mechanics to rewrite and I'm not about to do that so close to the end.

That's some interesting trivia.
I also like this stuff here from folklore:

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Maybe you could incorporate some of this into Demon Gods2 if that is ever going to be.

 

[Panonon]

That's some interesting trivia.
I also like this stuff here from folklore:

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Maybe you could incorporate some of this into Demon Gods2 if that is ever going to be.

I have too many ideas for other games that I want to do, plus I am so burnt out on DG.
I don't think a sequel will happen.

Also, I've learned my lesson from DG that I don't want to do a super long narrative as a CYOA again unless I have another writer working alongside me.
If I have a lot of branches, I want to keep the game short next time around.

I do however want to reuse my Witch of the Abyss someday.

Anyways, if I were to do anything with Demon Gods again, I'd probably just steal my lore and worldbuilding from the first game and reuse it in another game.

I do wanna do more with Succubi though. Not enough games with Succubi.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

I want to keep the game short next time around.

Well that sucks, i don't like short games. Maybe you should consider taking more time to finish your projects instead, so you can insert other activities into your workflow that help with removing the burn.

I do however want to reuse my Witch of the Abyss someday.

I can get behind this, totally.
Make her deeper than the sea.. ah but she's already is, then i suppose you should maintain her depth.

Anyways, if I were to do anything with Demon Gods again, I'd probably just steal my lore and worldbuilding from the first game and reuse it in another game.

You better add some new stuff on top of old stuff anyway. Clones are good 'n all but.. not too good.

I do wanna do more with Succubi though. Not enough games with Succubi.

I'm with you here. Not sure about 'not enough games with succubi' tho, there's tons of them actually, but we can always use more.
Then again, you could also do something with vampires instead, they can be surprisingly similar to succubi... especially if it's a hybrid born of a succubus and a vampire. Or a hybrid of succubus and some unique demon, there's plenty of variety out-there.

 

[euphoriquelaborieux]

Is français traduction?

 

[Panonon]

Is français traduction?

I apologize, I only know english and enough German to survive if I find myself trapped in Deutschland.

If someone wants to translate the game into any language, they have my blessing.

Well that sucks, i don't like short games. Maybe you should consider taking more time to finish your projects instead, so you can insert other activities into your workflow that help with removing the burn.

I hear you, but over the past 8 or so months I've lost over 100 subscribers on Patreon.
I'm not going to pretend money isn't a major factor as to why I do this, so it does kind of suck. Especially when a lot of newer and not-so-great games come out with no content and immediately somehow have 300+ subscribers. Kinda makes me jealous.

I could be wrong, but I personally believe the length of my game is a huge factor in why I'm losing members.
That or maybe I write way too much and people just want a smut game, haha. But I don't think I'd enjoy a making a game that doesn't have a focus on story.

I can get behind this, totally.
Make her deeper than the sea.. ah but she's already is, then i suppose you should maintain her depth.

Heck yes! The reason I provided some hints to her backstory is simply because I want to write her backstory one day. Not sure how well my current ideas on her would translate to an adult game, but sex and witchcraft tend to go hand in hand.

You better add some new stuff on top of old stuff anyway. Clones are good 'n all but.. not too good.

Agreed, I only mean that I might reuse the world. Not the characters.

I'm not sure RPG maker is as popular as twine since twine is easy to pick up and drop, but I do believe demon gods would have been better as an RPG game.
There is a guy who is 'remaking Demon Gods' as an RPG, but I'm kind of skeptical of that ever being completed, though he's adamant that he will.

I'm with you here. Not sure about 'not enough games with succubi' tho, there's tons of them actually, but we can always use more.

Yeah, that's what I said. Not enough.

Then again, you could also do something with vampires instead, they can be surprisingly similar to succubi... especially if it's a hybrid born of a succubus and a vampire. Or a hybrid of succubus and some unique demon, there's plenty of variety out-there.

I do like Vampires but everytime I try to write a vampire I feel myself accidentally stealing too much inspiration from Shingetsutan Tsukihime.
And while I'd HATE for it to happen to me, I enjoy exploring the psychological aspect of Gender Bender, so I might do gender bender stuff in future games too. There are some fun themes I haven't really seen that many games do very much of, like possession or bodyswap.




There are two games I'm working on, on the side.
One of them has an artist and another developer.
Actually this time I'm mostly the writer, designer, and mechanics designer.
I'm just a back-up programmer on that game. (Also it's being programmed in C# which I'm not very good at. Sadly switching from Python to C# isn't as easy as I hoped).

Anyways, the reason I brought that game up is because originally I had planned to have the protagonist as an Overlord. Originally I wanted her to be a Dragon (humanoid for most scenes, no anthro stuff). Then as the story changed, it made more sense to make her a non-specific demon. Then as I went on, she basically just became another Succubus, so I embraced it. Haha.

Then there's another solo game I'm working on that I wasn't planning to share with anyone.
I'll probably use AI for that one, though I might hire someone to redo the art if/when I decide to release it on a store like Steam.
This game is intended to be relatively short, I want to do multiple characters and roughly 5 chapters. It won't have a deep story though, I'm going for humor this time. The entire game will be a parody, highly inspired by Douglas Adams quirky and funny style of writing.

Currently I've written the opening for two characters, and while one of the characters seems like it will be extremely hard to write going forward, I'm actualy kind of excited to try. I love my opening for that character at least.

 

[Panonon]

Unrelated to Demon Gods, but the artist for the other game I'm working on, when I find time, gave me permission to share her sketch.
I described and used AI to give her what I was looking for in the protagonist and asked her to go for a retro anime style (imagine the original Slayers anime).
She has never done retro anime, so its new for her but she's already given me some colored examples of her attempts and I'm pretty happy with them.
I'm only hiring her to do character cutouts though, I'll probably outsource somewhere else for action / lewd scenes.

Here's a sneak peak at an unfinished sketch of the new protagonist:

 

[euphoriquelaborieux]

I apologize, I only know english and enough German to survive if I find myself trapped in Deutschland.

If someone wants to translate the game into any language, they have my blessing.




I hear you, but over the past 8 or so months I've lost over 100 subscribers on Patreon.
I'm not going to pretend money isn't a major factor as to why I do this, so it does kind of suck. Especially when a lot of newer and not-so-great games come out with no content and immediately somehow have 300+ subscribers. Kinda makes me jealous.

I could be wrong, but I personally believe the length of my game is a huge factor in why I'm losing members.
That or maybe I write way too much and people just want a smut game, haha. But I don't think I'd enjoy a making a game that doesn't have a focus on story.


Heck yes! The reason I provided some hints to her backstory is simply because I want to write her backstory one day. Not sure how well my current ideas on her would translate to an adult game, but sex and witchcraft tend to go hand in hand.


Agreed, I only mean that I might reuse the world. Not the characters.

I'm not sure RPG maker is as popular as twine since twine is easy to pick up and drop, but I do believe demon gods would have been better as an RPG game.
There is a guy who is 'remaking Demon Gods' as an RPG, but I'm kind of skeptical of that ever being completed, though he's adamant that he will.



Yeah, that's what I said. Not enough.



I do like Vampires but everytime I try to write a vampire I feel myself accidentally stealing too much inspiration from Shingetsutan Tsukihime.
And while I'd HATE for it to happen to me, I enjoy exploring the psychological aspect of Gender Bender, so I might do gender bender stuff in future games too. There are some fun themes I haven't really seen that many games do very much of, like possession or bodyswap.




There are two games I'm working on, on the side.
One of them has an artist and another developer.
Actually this time I'm mostly the writer, designer, and mechanics designer.
I'm just a back-up programmer on that game. (Also it's being programmed in C# which I'm not very good at. Sadly switching from Python to C# isn't as easy as I hoped).

Anyways, the reason I brought that game up is because originally I had planned to have the protagonist as an Overlord. Originally I wanted her to be a Dragon (humanoid for most scenes, no anthro stuff). Then as the story changed, it made more sense to make her a non-specific demon. Then as I went on, she basically just became another Succubus, so I embraced it. Haha.

Then there's another solo game I'm working on that I wasn't planning to share with anyone.
I'll probably use AI for that one, though I might hire someone to redo the art if/when I decide to release it on a store like Steam.
This game is intended to be relatively short, I want to do multiple characters and roughly 5 chapters. It won't have a deep story though, I'm going for humor this time. The entire game will be a parody, highly inspired by Douglas Adams quirky and funny style of writing.

Currently I've written the opening for two characters, and while one of the characters seems like it will be extremely hard to write going forward, I'm actualy kind of excited to try. I love my opening for that character at least.

Aww, merci

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

I could be wrong, but I personally believe the length of my game is a huge factor in why I'm losing members.

What? That's nonsense dude..
If i were to name one reason it'd likely be AI art, since the public is still in its hysteria phase over this new tech.
And possibly the engine, it's just twine right? Generally that's not very appealing, maybe give Rpgm, Renpy, or Godot a shot.
Then again, i know some cool and popular games made in twine.
This is what you should prolly aim for if you gonna be sticking with twine.

Especially when a lot of newer and not-so-great games come out with no content and immediately somehow have 300+ subscribers. Kinda makes me jealous.

They likely lose them very fast as well if they can't maintain the hype, hype dies down quick after all.

Heck yes! The reason I provided some hints to her backstory is simply because I want to write her backstory one day. Not sure how well my current ideas on her would translate to an adult game, but sex and witchcraft tend to go hand in hand.

Oh, that line of thinking again huh.
There should be plenty of fucking in a porn game yes, but not everything needs to be about fucking, even in a porn game.

but sex and witchcraft tend to go hand in hand.

But yes you can sexualize witchcraft easily, and even keep the depth too if you give it a good mulling over, i'm sure.
Perhaps some of her magic can be powered by sexual energy or something along these lines.

I'm not sure RPG maker is as popular as twine since twine is easy to pick up and drop, but I do believe demon gods would have been better as an RPG game.

Jap porn games are mostly rpgm-based or Wolfrpg-based, that should tell you a thing or two about popularity of this engine.
I do believe that it is far beyond twine.
I support your rpg-inclination, take care with combat though, it's always one of the hardest parts.
Perhaps you could try you hand at doing card combat next? Or maybe save this one for Demon Gods2. Up2you.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Unrelated to Demon Gods, but the artist for the other game I'm working on, when I find time, gave me permission to share her sketch.
I described and used AI to give her what I was looking for in the protagonist and asked her to go for a retro anime style (imagine the original Slayers anime).
She has never done retro anime, so its new for her but she's already given me some colored examples of her attempts and I'm pretty happy with them.
I'm only hiring her to do character cutouts though, I'll probably outsource somewhere else for action / lewd scenes.

Here's a sneak peak at an unfinished sketch of the new protagonist:

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I like her overall body frame and long hair, an elf/succ hybrid is it? Or pure succ? She kinda gives me elf vibes tho.
I dig elf, too. Especially ridiculously powerful elf who doesn't take shit from no one, kinda like Frieren.

 

[Panonon]

What? That's nonsense dude..
If i were to name one reason it'd likely be AI art, since the public is still in its hysteria phase over this new tech.
And possibly the engine, it's just twine right? Generally that's not very appealing, maybe give Rpgm, Renpy, or Godot a shot.
Then again, i know some cool and popular games made in twine.
This is what you should prolly aim for if you gonna be sticking with twine.

I'm working in unity with the other dev on my project with them. They insisted.
I'm gonna try renpy for my next one.
I'm also interested in trying to use pixel game maker and try making a metroidvania. Not a massive one, for that I'd probably use unity since I already own a metroidvania engine in it. Someday.
And yeah I'd rather use godot, but right now the tools for unity are better.
I doubt I'll be selling enough for them to take profits anyways.

Oh, that line of thinking again huh.
There should be plenty of fucking in a porn game yes, but not everything needs to be about fucking, even in a porn game.

I mean I'm doing surprisingly well if I'm being honest. It's hard to look at it that way sometimes but I was briefly in the top 300 for patreon adult games. Most twine games fail even before the devs get burnt out and quit, so it's hard but I should give myself some credit.

But yes you can sexualize witchcraft easily, and even keep the depth too if you give it a good mulling over, i'm sure.
Perhaps some of her magic can be powered by sexual energy or something along these lines.

Yeah, if I do a game with her it probably won't be a short one.
At the very least my next game will be relatively short, I think. But that doesn't mean I won't come back and do another long one.
It just might be smarter to wait until my kid doesn't need constant Supervision and I'm not trying to work on another game on the side.

Jap porn games are mostly rpgm-based or Wolfrpg-based, that should tell you a thing or two about popularity of this engine.
I do believe that it is far beyond twine.
I support your rpg-inclination, take care with combat though, it's always one of the hardest parts.

Yeah, if I were to translate to Japanese I'd bet I could do very well in that market if I did a rpg maker game. I'd need a translator and I'd have to censor everything. I have no idea how well those games do western though.

I saw a xenogears battle engine for rpg maker someone built and am super interested in trying that. I've been wanting to make a xenogears like battle system for a long time.

you could try you hand at doing card combat next? Or maybe save this one for Demon Gods2. Up2you.

I don't know if I can do card combat. I'm not confident I could balance a game like that.

Board game style gameplay might be possible, but I don't think I could make a card builder game.

Actually check out the new battle system I added to version 0.6, it's something I've been experimenting with. It's a war system.

I like her overall body frame and long hair, an elf/succ hybrid is it? Or pure succ? She kinda gives me elf vibes tho.
I dig elf, too. Especially ridiculously powerful elf who doesn't take shit from no one, kinda like Frieren.

Pure succubus, though I'd also dig an overpowered elf.
But I can see why you'd say that. I asked the artist to give her elf ears and detachable horns/wings (so I can add them later).

Frieren is fantastic. I'm glad that got an anime.


Edit: I hate the Samsung keyboard.

 

[Ssato243]

can we play pure lesbian or not

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

I'm working in unity with the other dev on my project with them. They insisted.

Err... Unity might end up being not so great of an idea my dude.

Actually check out the new battle system I added to version 0.6, it's something I've been experimenting with. It's a war system.

I will at some point, but i think i'll need more content to make it worth my while. So far i've seen content up to elf village, so if i'm gonna restart the game again i'd like there to be a good chunk of new stuff on top of that village.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

can we play pure lesbian or not

No.

 

[Panonon]

Err... Unity might end up being not so great of an idea my dude.

The guy who responded to you must not have been aware of hte update or he's just plain wrong.

Nothing from them is really free. It goes by lifetime installs as well

This is no longer true.
It was almost true because they updated their TOS, but after the massive backlash, they backpedaled back to the original 'free until a certain amount'.
They updated their TOS within 24 - 48 hours of this proposed plan because of the backlash.

Now Unity is still not ideal, but until Godot has enough resources to compete with Unity, I think it's still the best option.
Also, if I actually made enough money for them to charge a fee, I'd consider that a success. I'm hopeful to make at least 50k off the game in the first year, but they don't start charging until around 200k or so.
Also Unity wasn't my choice. I actually wanted to use Ren'py but the other dev pushed for Unity because it's what he's learning in school.

I will at some point, but i think i'll need more content to make it worth my while. So far i've seen content up to elf village, so if i'm gonna restart the game again i'd like there to be a good chunk of new stuff on top of that village.

Entirely fair, plus 0.6 isn't free until 10/03 anyways.

I'm working my butt off trying to add as much content as possible, but I've been hitting my limit lately. Doesn't help that I have a 1 year old running around and a wife who thinks that me working from home means I can just walk away from work at any time to do whatever she needs, haha.

0.61, I am hoping to add the first part of the new dungeon (though I'm still trying to consider how I want to handle it), as well as add a few more court sessions to town, and add new conversations to all of the npc's in the area.

 

[AnonEMister]

I got off guard playing the game when

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appeared. "I know I'm not fapping to two games at once, am I?" *checks tabs* "nope. It's still demon gods. Oh. Ohhh I see. Spooky." Maybe this was the true College Daze update all along. can't wait to rule my kingdom with an iron fist. I shoulda beaten up that socially inept vampire first...I'll come back later.

 

[Panonon]

I got off guard playing the game when

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appeared. "I know I'm not fapping to two games at once, am I?" *checks tabs* "nope. It's still demon gods. Oh. Ohhh I see. Spooky." Maybe this was the true College Daze update all along. can't wait to rule my kingdom with an iron fist. I shoulda beaten up that socially inept vampire first...I'll come back later.

Shout out to G28Here for allowing me to

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The bug reports I get for this "issue" are my favorite bug reports.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

The guy who responded to you must not have been aware of hte update or he's just plain wrong.

This is no longer true.
It was almost true because they updated their TOS, but after the massive backlash, they backpedaled back to the original 'free until a certain amount'.
They updated their TOS within 24 - 48 hours of this proposed plan because of the backlash.

Now Unity is still not ideal, but until Godot has enough resources to compete with Unity, I think it's still the best option.
Also, if I actually made enough money for them to charge a fee, I'd consider that a success. I'm hopeful to make at least 50k off the game in the first year, but they don't start charging until around 200k or so.
Also Unity wasn't my choice. I actually wanted to use Ren'py but the other dev pushed for Unity because it's what he's learning in school.

I'm just making sure you know what you're gettin' into with Unity, they have proven that they can attempt to change the terms whenever they feel like it, after all.
I doubt that anyone would want this kinda shit breathing down their necks when development is already tiring work as it is.

 

[Panonon]

I'm just making sure you know what you're gettin' into with Unity, they have proven that they can attempt to change the terms whenever they feel like it, after all.
I doubt that anyone would want this kinda shit breathing down their necks when development is already tiring work as it is.

Oh, I 100% agree.

Ultimately the decision was made by the other developer.

But tbh, even if I were to make my own game, I'm not skilled enough to use Godot and manage to actually complete something in a timely manner.
Unity has pre-built engines and resources for stuff like Metroidvania's and visual novels that I can take advantage of.
I do hope to one day in the future move over to Godot when I get a bit better (maybe if my investments ever pay off and I can quit my FT job and focus on making games, I can find some time to actually do that).

But for now, I'm personally focusing on twine, and probably renpy next.

After that we'll see where I go based on what I want to make and how much confidence I have.

 

[Panonon]

mofu2x

Thanks for the scathing review, but I think you're missing the point a bit. Especially given your post history.

If I had 2 points of praise, it's that the AI art is at passable quality and the dev can string together coherent sentences but that's about it.

And I'm surprised how asset starved the game is despite them being literally auto generated.

The reason my images might appear more janky than other AI games is because I don't just type words and call it a day. My AI art is a mixture of hand-drawn, AI and hours spent editing in photoshop. So as to why the game is lacking in assets...
Well, if you really want, I COULD just string together some words and post whatever results I get without caring if the character matches the protagonist / other characters, and without putting effort into different positions / styles / pov's / etc.

But I do take some pride in the fact that I do spend time drawing and editing my images.

Unfortunately my art skills aren't high enough to make something as good as an artist or AI can put out, but on the other hand I also don't want to use generic images that AI usually spits out. (Most lewd images are POV, I try to do more than that but the results are usually a loss in quality).

As for the long passages, I'll give you that.
I've been trying to do better and break passages into smaller passages, it's a learning experience.