Discussion: Porn Game Standards

Living In A Lewd World

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:FacePalm: I know you know there is a thriving indie game scene in just about every sub-genre on Steam. Please don't pretend all non-porn games are massively funded. And while some people would argue that indie games are held to a lower standard than AAA games just as many would call bullshit on that. Tons of game reviewers will flat out tell you a game being AAA is far from a guarantee it will be good, or even playable in general. Sometimes a AAA game is routinely panned before it's even out just because the publisher is known to be shitty.

These days the indie devs are more or less held to the same standards as so-called AAA games. I see no reason to expect less from a solo porn game dev than I would a solo indie game dev. But that's where we're at because naturally a game is going to be judged in part by the metric set by it's competitors. Which is a very low bar when it comes to porn games.


Well, to be fair I was speaking about Steam there. Usually there's a bit more involved on those store pages than 5 screenshots and 3 sentences. But I digress.
I think, there is a general problem with comparing "adult games" to "normal games" beyond the fact, that adult game devs have much less money for production and are in general rather single persons than groups.

In the "adult gaming industry", most games are "visual novels", which have in my opinion more in common with comics than with the most games, I use to play and may be held rather to those standards. The demand for this games might be actually quite high here, higher than for actual gameplay-heavy games. I think, most of the players are here rather to see their sexual fantasy outlived in a series of 2D or 3D-images than having complex gamedesign or a complex story and that's what drives the scene.

For me, my interest in finding interesting visual told lewd stories was the thing, that brought me into the "lewd game scene". Something, that I totally miss in porn. Engrish is not really a deal breaker, as long as I can enjoy the visual told story. So I really like e.g. Coming of Age despite there were quite some spelling mistakes when I started to play. I liked the overall idea that was presented. I find the lewd ideas presented quite creative. The writing is simple, but very lighthearted and somehow very appealing. In my own exploration of "writing adult fiction", I once even started to rip the game files, read the pure text, corrected the errors and sent the corrections to the dev, who implemented them.

But actually I also think there is a big amout of not that good games, especially from the early days of the forum which got lots of praise and revenue, but which I would today not try for long, as they may come around e.g. as too grindy. But I think, it is not the big amount of bad games/VNs, that lets the mediocre games shine, but rather the low amount of very good games/VNs from that time, that let those mediocre games shine. You can see this e.g. in the development of "Big Brother", which was a Top game in 2017 but which successor got abandoned only one year ago because is was not profitable anymore, while less grindy but better told games like "Being a DIK" or "The headmaster" can still drag the masses.
 

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1. A lot of the porn games on this website I've downloaded are Visual Novels. I look for story build ups, instant sex is cool and all but it's just pointless after that. Build up characters and the "scene" afterwards is just a cherry on top of it. Quality to me doesn't matter, if I can clearly see them and they aren't pixelated like minecraft or something then its okay. Big tits and ass like, OVERSIZED is a definite turn off.

2. There's a lot of games on here, if I was to estimate approximately 85% of them work. I have only downloaded 6 games (visual novel) and they all seemed to work fine. I don't even have enough storage to download all these games anyways.

3. My favs/Gold Standards, Being a DIK was a good visual novel game, really nice story to it, Chloe 18 Fake Family was alright, Sunshine Love I thought was really good as well.
 
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Semetrika

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I think, there is a general problem with comparing "adult games" to "normal games" beyond the fact, that adult game devs have much less money for production and are in general rather single persons than groups.
It is, but depends what is compared. You can have tight budget, but still make good game or visual novel. Problem is complete ignorance of fundamentals how make renders, animations, writing, composition etc. This thinks are free everywhere or for small tip you can buy courses.
But no, dev still make shit excuses and people support it anyway, so problem is on both sides.
 

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Zardoz23 I think that when you compare SFW indie games vs NSFW indie games, your reasoning is flawed, at least in part, and that you're a victim of selection bias.

There are over 40 new games on Steam every day (14.4K games in 2023, for example). Yes, 40 a day.
As a gamer, you'll never hear about any of these games (most of which are terrible), and in the end, over the course of a year, you'll only know about a tiny fraction of games, the ones that have had at least a little success, or at least managed to make a name for themselves.
You're making the mistake of thinking that's the whole of indie games, when it's just the tip of the iceberg.

Since there are obviously many more SFW games than NSFW, it's also obvious that over the course of a year you'll retain more good indie SFW games (especially since they'll be covered by the mainstream video game media), and since you're not aware of the actual number of SFW games that have been released (whereas, on the contrary, it's easier to keep track of the NSFW game market since it's relatively small), you assume that SFW games are of better quality in general.
 
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Zardoz23

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Zardoz23 I think that when you compare SFW indie games vs NSFW indie games, your reasoning is flawed, at least in part, and that you're a victim of selection bias.

There are over 40 new games on Steam every day (14.4K games in 2023, for example). Yes, 40 a day.
As a gamer, you'll never hear about any of these games (most of which are terrible), and in the end, over the course of a year, you'll only know about a tiny fraction of games, the ones that have had at least a little success, or at least managed to make a name for themselves.
You're making the mistake of thinking that's the whole of indie games, when it's just the tip of the iceberg.

Since there are obviously many more SFW games than NSFW, it's also obvious that over the course of a year you'll retain more good indie SFW games (especially since they'll be covered by the mainstream video game media), and since you're not aware of the actual number of SFW games that have been released (whereas, on the contrary, it's easier to keep track of the NSFW game market since it's relatively small), you assume that SFW games are of better quality in general.
You make a good point but I am slightly more aware of the "shovelware" issue on Steam because my youtube feed is full of game reviewers (one notably focuses on indie games and another who makes a lot of videos bitching about asset flips and trash games). But point taken.

Although I still stand by the fact that what is considered the baseline level of "good" isn't all that great when it comes to porn games right now. Perhaps it will improve over time. People have suggested that the old standards for porn games were even lower. And I have noticed a few reviews on F95zone that say things like "the renders are outdated now but this was one of the best games back in the day" (paraphrasing obviously).
 
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letsgethappy

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I don´t care about the language quality.
I am addressed visually first and pick whatever looks nice.
Focus on sandbox, harem.
I don´t care about percentages.
I wouldn't call it gold, but let's say it's highly recommended are:
X-Change Life, Lust is Stranger, Simple Days, Master of seduction

Lonely and deserted in a far away point:
Good Girl gone bad
 

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1. A garbage game is something that can't really be enjoyed by anyone. Many games avoid being at the bottom of the barrel with decent art, but don't worry, it's still possible to make a garbage game even if the art is fappable.

2. Playable is different than not garbage. Porn games don't need to compete with my favorite non-porn games in art, story, or gameplay, because they have porn. Without looking at any statistics, I'd say about 35% of the game on this site would be playable (for me, excluding fetish reasons).

You can blame that low percentage on the Ren'py engine.

3.
I think the only game that managed to have decent-looking art and great gameplay was Rignetta's Adventure, though I haven't played that in a while. Good art quality is far more common than fun gameplay.