District 13 Discussion

[BRUTUS68]

Your attitude is the reason this forum gets a bad reputation.
There are plenty of bad developers that milk their supporters with constant delays and paywall after paywall. But no, you chose to try to fuck over one of the decent ones that delivers time after time new videos and actually gave her blessing for her work to be shared, and the only thing she asked for was a two-week leniency period to get some monetary compensation.
I could go on, but apparently your attention span doesn't allow you to read through a lot of words.

Just the right amount of nonsense for me to respond
I don’t care what you or the creator says
I’m here to leak and that’s it
And that’s what 99% of the people in here want
Also her paywall is huge for the slop she produces
(Let’s assume it’s a she but really no one knows)
If you want to support and worship her like the other nuthead go subscribe
I bet you never did

That’s all I have to say on this matter

 

[BRUTUS68]

I don't follow district13 much, so I'm not biased, I'm not a fan. But he's right, you could wait before posting. Many artists are generous with offering a public release of their work, so at least show some respect and wait a little while before leaking videos.

The creator doesn’t publicly release!
It all relies on that nuthead leaking her stuff after 2 weeks on their little forum
I don’t care for that and the financial impact on her part is virtually non existent
It’s all blown out of proportion

 

[Ame213]

Need tribal affairs

 

[riddikk91]

The creator doesn’t publicly release!
It all relies on that nuthead leaking her stuff after 2 weeks on their little forum
I don’t care for that and the financial impact on her part is virtually non existent
It’s all blown out of proportion

... and that is your opinion... thanks for sharing!

 

[HDiddy]

I will just give my opinion from someone who is not really a D13 Super Fan.

F95 is for leaks. Period. Nobody on this site gets special treatment. The site is an equal opportunity leaker. So as much as I respect the folks in APC...passing the message. Here it does not matter because APC well....is for leaks also. The minute that these sites start making special agreements with artist about when a "leak" will get released is the beginning of the end to all of this. Because then everyone would ask for the same treatment. Nini will be fine. She has been doing this for over 10 years and her content is leaked all over the place in literally every porn site imaginable. One person ain't gonna to do shit. I would say those leaks have actually helped her to gain the following she has...and hopefully she realizes that....

In the immortal words of DMX

"Stop being Greedy...."

And before someone comes at me....I am not saying she is greedy (its a song). Just saying all those subs are probably due to leaks she seems to have issues with.

If I were Nini...I would post my content to Rule34 my self after a 2 week embargo. Most artist with fairly large subscriber base do this and I have seem them simply blow up. However the artist who want to keep their stuff under a tight leash are the ones that seem to can't get their subs pass a certain number or have slow growth...which shines a big fat light if the mid level content they produce is even worth the sub.

Do I subscribe to D13...nope. She makes decent stories, but I really only like maybe 25% of the content she produces. So I grab the stuff I like where I can get it. You don't really need to wait 2 weeks at APC...there is always going to be someone who post it somewhere. For me I subscribe to people not because I want content because I want to see them continue to push their work.

Anyway just my $0.02

 

[seta19]

Just the right amount of nonsense for me to respond
I don’t care what you or the creator says
I’m here to leak and that’s it
And that’s what 99% of the people in here want
Also her paywall is huge for the slop she produces
(Let’s assume it’s a she but really no one knows)
If you want to support and worship her like the other nuthead go subscribe
I bet you never did

That’s all I have to say on this matter

Not defending or anything but you do bring up a good point. As someone who used to support them on patreon.. sometimes there are months you get nothing or no release, sometimes just a 4 minute nothing burger.. It's why I stopped supporting her. So you're right on that aspect.. it's not worth the price point she asks for, for what she gives.

 

[BRUTUS68]

Sorry for the 2 day delay lol
Here are "her" reworked videos she released


V9

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V10

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V11

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[HDiddy]

Not defending or anything but you do bring up a good point. As someone who used to support them on patreon.. sometimes there are months you get nothing or no release, sometimes just a 4 minute nothing burger.. It's why I stopped supporting her. So you're right on that aspect.. it's not worth the price point she asks for, for what she gives.

I think we all can have a civilized discussion on the matter without coming at people crazy. The unfortunate side of things is that some people become more than "Fans" and almost move into to "Worshipper" territory...which IMO is dangerous and also kind of weird. However, putting that aside, it makes people rationalize the things that in many ways do not make sense...including taking an overly zealous stance against anyone that may not agree with said creators decisions for perfectly valid reasons, thus creating an echo chamber of people who simply...well...you know. Name a big artist...and just try to give some critical feedback.

Most VaM artist are not that great, IMO....but they are the ones that try to charge the highest price for the "Meh..." level content they produce, and are also the ones that get all up in arms when their mid level content is leaked. None of them are truly doing anything new or creative, seem to use the same models, the same poses, and the same tired plot time and time again. Could they be better? Yes I strongly believe they could be...however, the people who sub seem to not give a flying fck about providing them the quality feedback they need to be better. Instead they get suckled like a baby on their momma's tit paying month after month for low quality work.

Look I make content...and not everyone likes my shit. It is long, I don't do Futa, I don't incest, my black characters don't look like the racist Jim crow looking shit people want, and it is pretty much as vanilla as it can be. But it is free...so yeah. My point here...is that for the few people who do like it...I listen to their feedback about how I can be better...the unfortunate side with these other artist is that I feel they are too busy chasing the bag to even care.

 

[BRUTUS68]

This is why I only leak from creators with a high paywall and retarded gatekeeping fan bases
District 13 checks both
Dakoassman checks the first

I’m not even interested in their works
It’s all VAM slop with district 13 having one of the worst animation skills I have ever seen
0 voice overs either?
What justifies a $20 paywall?
And don’t even get me started on the so called stories

 

[HDiddy]

This is why I only leak from creators with a high paywall and retarded gatekeeping fan bases
District 13 checks both
Dakoassman checks the first

I’m not even interested in their works
It’s all VAM slop with district 13 having one of the worst animation skills I have ever seen
0 voice overs either?
What justifies a $20 paywall?
And don’t even get me started on the so called stories



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Man oh man you are gonna have some heat seeking missiles coming after you..LOL. Most VaM artist are all cut from the same thread. Same animations, bad lighting, too much physics, etc etc etc...I do feel Nini is better than many of the VaM artist out there but not anything to scream and shout about. And totally agree about the assman.

 

[Superbior]

This is why I only leak from creators with a high paywall and retarded gatekeeping fan bases
District 13 checks both
Dakoassman checks the first

I’m not even interested in their works
It’s all VAM slop with district 13 having one of the worst animation skills I have ever seen
0 voice overs either?
What justifies a $20 paywall?
And don’t even get me started on the so called stories



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I can understand calling out most artists nowadays for their price tag, considering people have to prioritize food and rent, and with the minimum wage in our day and age, it's really hard to support artists.
But to call her animation skills the worst you ever saw is a blatant lie, unless your point of reference is minuscule or you hate her specifically for some reason.
The story aspect and and character models are all subject to ones personal tastes.
The way she implements physics in the human body is what sets her apart for me from most artists out there.

 

[BRUTUS68]

I can understand calling out most artists nowadays for their price tag, considering people have to prioritize food and rent, and with the minimum wage in our day and age, it's really hard to support artists.
But to call her animation skills the worst you ever saw is a blatant lie, unless your point of reference is minuscule or you hate her specifically for some reason.
The story aspect and and character models are all subject to ones personal tastes.
The way she implements physics in the human body is what sets her apart for me from most artists out there.

Her animations look/feel like they have been made with the HL physics gun
It’s choppy and not fluid at all
I have yet to see anything worse

 

[BRUTUS68]

Man oh man you are gonna have some heat seeking missiles coming after you..LOL. Most VaM artist are all cut from the same thread. Same animations, bad lighting, too much physics, etc etc etc...I do feel Nini is better than many of the VaM artist out there but not anything to scream and shout about. And totally agree about the assman.

The Assman does one and only one thing right
His Animations are Imo very fluid and look natural

 

[HDiddy]

But to call her animation skills the worst you ever saw is a blatant lie, unless your point of reference is minuscule or you hate her specifically for some reason.

The animation skill is simply an opinion which you may disagree with. I am somewhere in the middle because I don't think the Assman is any better....it just might seem more fluid because he does not use Physics.

I personally think most VaM animation is kind of sloppy. I personally preferred Nini when she was animating in TK17.

 

[Aldous12333]

Can someone send the vision v4? Or v3?

 

[seta19]

I think we all can have a civilized discussion on the matter without coming at people crazy. The unfortunate side of things is that some people become more than "Fans" and almost move into to "Worshipper" territory...which IMO is dangerous and also kind of weird. However, putting that aside, it makes people rationalize the things that in many ways do not make sense...including taking an overly zealous stance against anyone that may not agree with said creators decisions for perfectly valid reasons, thus creating an echo chamber of people who simply...well...you know. Name a big artist...and just try to give some critical feedback.

Most VaM artist are not that great, IMO....but they are the ones that try to charge the highest price for the "Meh..." level content they produce, and are also the ones that get all up in arms when their mid level content is leaked. None of them are truly doing anything new or creative, seem to use the same models, the same poses, and the same tired plot time and time again. Could they be better? Yes I strongly believe they could be...however, the people who sub seem to not give a flying fck about providing them the quality feedback they need to be better. Instead they get suckled like a baby on their momma's tit paying month after month for low quality work.

Look I make content...and not everyone likes my shit. It is long, I don't do Futa, I don't incest, my black characters don't look like the racist Jim crow looking shit people want, and it is pretty much as vanilla as it can be. But it is free...so yeah. My point here...is that for the few people who do like it...I listen to their feedback about how I can be better...the unfortunate side with these other artist is that I feel they are too busy chasing the bag to even care.

Totally agree with you about the worshippers. It's a little ridiculous imo. Look, don't get me wrong. I like Nini's works, for the most part. But she is nowhere near what i would consider a top artist, and she has other priorities besides this which also hinders her works imo.. Which i'm not judging, totally fine to have a different thing other then this. Just pointing it out. But yeah my biggest discrepency is the price point and how often content is actually given.. there are far better options.

 

[HDiddy]

Totally agree with you about the worshippers. It's a little ridiculous imo. Look, don't get me wrong. I like Nini's works, for the most part. But she is nowhere near what i would consider a top artist, and she has other priorities besides this which also hinders her works imo.. Which i'm not judging, totally fine to have a different thing other then this. Just pointing it out. But yeah my biggest discrepency is the price point and how often content is actually given.. there are far better options.

I mean shit...when you have people start referring to her as "Our Dear Lady" you know shit has hit a whole new level of fandom.

 

[BRUTUS68]

I mean shit...when you have people start referring to her as "Our Dear Lady" you know shit has hit a whole new level of fandom.

Bahahahahaha

 

[Le Mat]

Good to see you, MosMoss!

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[iRoxor]

I do want to chime in on a couple of things since discussions have flared up.

I think that ever since D13 switched from TK17 to VAM, her works have plateaud in my honest opinion. They don't have the same charm as before, and I guess you can blame the ease-of-use that VAM brings making the artist lazy or focus on aspects that don't emphasize what made the original works interesting and appealing. I'm not saying all of her works from before VAM are masterpieces - some of them (especially the earliest works) are some of the worst quality videos I've ever seen in the 3D hentai space, both in graphical fidelity and the content itself with stories that are so chaotic and nonsensically put-together, you'd think a methhead whipped it up - but the ones that are typically shared on the usual adult websites are really good, especially the forbidden content ones. If anything, this rant is more of a call than anything for D13 to stop chasing after Patreon money and go back to making forbidden content works born out of passion again. I agree with the DMX quote shared earlier; greed ruins all.

On the topic of the 8muses/APC group - yeah they are indeed a lunatical bunch. The level of cult-like worship is not only baffling, but entirely cringe as well. At the very least, they have done good on preserving D13's older works, but have done extremely poorly in organizing it in any sensible way - even her category on Ohentai has better organization since at least the videos are all in one episodic list (even though there are no proper titles on them). Makes me glad there is a bunkr or gofile link out there on the internet that has nearly all of her works ready for viewing or download, I really don't know why those deranged cringelords on APC can't just manage a bunkr or gofile URL themselves and put all the releases in one place.

I don't really have anything to add about leaking her works. F95 is a leak website and I'm always for piracy when it comes to overpriced and wildly inconsistent content. If I do have an opinion to share, it would be that all of the leaks are why D13 even has a platform; nobody would give two shits if her videos weren't randomly scattered here and there in 3D hentai searches - that's how I discovered her in the first place... a random leaked video on Xvideos in the "3d" tag. The leaks have all done nothing but serve as free advertisement for her content.

Anyway, I don't post or lurk on F95 often, but thanks for listening to my TED Talk if you did.