VN Ren'Py Divimera [R11] [Redikal]

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Redikal

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AvoidMiser
Good level of paranoia right there, you should go out a bit and take some air, I think you need it.

"I paid $10 for each update and sometimes $3 for previews, but I won't be silly again. Locked previews were made at the very beginning of June and July, but I see no reason why they could not be posted at previous months..."
No this wasn't calculated, nobody pays for locked previews, if you think I'm making a strategy around locking previews you are silly, the news was supposed to be released the day right before but I wasn't at home literally. And yeah sometimes it's more fit/elegant to have a preview happen on the first, instead of the very end of the month, especially if there were previews done the same month already. I like to have a regular number of previews/news available for a given month just like any content creators out there. Though it wasn't even the case this time.
All the news are public so far, people know for months since I warned in the first news about R7 that it wouldn't come out in June or July, so maybe read the actual news. I also issue a refund to any Patreon that complains and report to me being unhappy about something, you would have known that if you had tried actually to interact with us before going on your weird Don Quichotte crusade.

"Like I said, $10 for new UIs and bug fixes?" You do whatever you want with your money, I'm not pointing a gun at you and you are free to wait for a more meaty update if you want. The changelog is public for this reason so that you can know in advance.

" What he did on Patreon has already disabled payers to give honest feedbacks..." What the heck does that even mean? The patreon is literally working like any patreons out there.

In any case, don't have the will to keep up with this type of conspiracy theory and this board is getting an influx of trolls recently, just looking at the WaL thread is nauseating, so have all the fun you want in there and miss me with that shit. If someone wants to interact with me from now, it would be on Patreon or Discord.
 
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HentaiGamerN00b

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IndigoHawk said:
Sorry this place has become too negative and good luck with your game. It's been great so far. :)
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I don't think it is negative ppl, just dumb ppl who are lost cases.
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Really, what the hell happened, this game is amazing, a next level porn game, and yet here it’s a nest of bad thoughts.
Still good luck also from me, Redikal
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It happens every time a game catch enough attention and success. It's not surprise developers retire a bit after that kind of responses that only deserve a slap like the Batman & Robin meme.
 
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HentaiGamerN00b said:
I don't think it is negative ppl, just dumb ppl who are lost cases.

It happens every time a game catch enough attention and success. It's not surprise developers retire a bit after that kind of responses that only deserve a slap like the Batman & Robin meme.
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Oh don’t tell me, it’s the misfortune of every successful game, not only on this site.
We would need an mini gun of Batman and robin slaps
 
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zARRR said:
Oh don’t tell me, it’s the misfortune of every successful game, not only on this site.
We would need an mini gun of Batman and robin slaps
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I just hope this game gets to be developed indefinitely because JESUS THESE MILFs ARE THICC! I just hope it doesn't get an ending like Winterlook's S.H.E.L.T.E.R. which had so much potential to create an open world surrounding the main story, but basically cut it off after defeating (to be honestly) what felt like an entry-level boss. Such a shame how that game ended.

I really wish you and this game all the best, I will be watching it with absolute anticipation as this story continues to develop
 
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I truly think it's okay for people to leave their opinion about the game and what disappointed them with the money they spend on this thread. There is no reason to silent that kind of statements. After all, this is a forums to discuss. As long as we all keep calm and discuss in a civil manner. There shouldn't be anything wrong.

So, with that said. Here is my opinion. I actually agree with a lot of criticizing that been popping up lately. But it all come down to 1 conclusion which is "The update wasn't worth the money". I agree that this game is progressing in a VERY slow pace and it has been in development for a long time. Maybe because author has MULTIPLE projects going on. I don't know.
If you disagree with me on that. I won't try to change your opinion and I won't force my opinion on you either. But please don't make statement like "then don't play" or "just stop the sub". Those are very bad takes and it will hurt both the author and the people who supporting the game. I won't assume that people who said so, are only people who play the game for free and never support the author.

It is known for everyone here that this game has very high potential and is a great game. But, think about people who pay $10 a month and their perspectives. Or even at $5 a month. If they been supporting the author for a long time and they believe the contents aren't worth their money. Of course they will have something to say about it. However, with the way the author replied to these thing, it left me with something more to be.... desired... (I don't want to be too rude or harsh here).

Anyway, I will leave this game for now and maybe come back next year to see where it go. So far I enjoy the story and the art a lot.
That's all I have to say about it and thank you for reading this far.
 
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Does anyone know if the game has a skip button? i want to play it again from the beginning and discover different option, and i want to skip parts and scenes that i already played and know.
 
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The Slobfather said:
Does anyone know if the game has a skip button? i want to play it again from the beginning and discover different option, and i want to skip parts and scenes that i already played and know.
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I think it's a toggle. IF you see your screen glowing in blue. you are in skip mode. Maybe it toggle by press ctrl? Try it!
 
Redikal

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Okay, the last message to get to the bottom of my thought, most people have unrealistic expectations and have no idea how much effort it takes to make a game, they probably imagine you let's say create a button for an interface or design/write a whole scene in one hour, in reality, you can x10 or more what you are imagining and you will be somewhere in the ballpark of how much time it takes. Every step involves correcting bugs too, this game has also a particularly to have the audio side unusually developed, this is almost an entirely different job than just coding and trying to manage the project, even if done at an amateurish level, this is quite a workload added.
Actually, most people IRL complain that I work too hard, I work the weekend too most of the time and this is not usual, the funny thing is that I was actually earning more doing pizza delivery and working only 4 hours a day 5 years ago before trying to make H-games. Thankfully it's improving and it's way more fun anyway, I hope that one day I can open a proper studio making games and not h-games (this is my very long-term project when I will be 50+ or something like that).

Now let give me an example and you can check for yourself other games if you want to, this is one of the games that inspired Divimera, here the credits of Sanitarium:

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The game took some years to be made, and you can notice just how much people worked on it, and all the jobs are very specialised, which means each one of them doesn't do as much.
In many way, this game that inspired Divimera is actually way less ambitious, with one linear path and not much of choices, it's also relatively short if you know what are you doing since you actually spend time trying to solve enigmas/puzzle, but done in a straight line it's almost the length of what will be Divimera in let's say R8. It has also game voices, so in certain areas, it's also more ambitious but truth be told it's a simpler game to make than Divimera if we get to the bottom of our ambitions (which we are willing to try) and they had 81 guys working on it.

Now in comparison, that's Divimera's credits:
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Helper is gone for one year because he wasn't required anymore (this was just a friend helping me at the start), Aide Artist is very rarely called (though he will help in the R7 release). So yeah that's a grand total of 4 persons, all of us take on multiple hats.

In any case, you can blame us if you want to, but most people that support us know quality has a price of time, and this project is like my ultimate project so I will take the time required to ensure that the vision we are aiming is reached.
As I said if you are not happy with us having massive ambition for a small team and taking what you judge is too much time, obviously feel free to leave, keep in mind I offer a refund if you are really unhappy about something. And just in general, yeah I don't think discussing my Patreon on a pirate forum that steals my content feels very right, but you are totally free to do it, I didn't contact a moderator or anything like that, not like they have reasons to listen to me anyway so yeah.
 
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Redikal said:
AvoidMiser
Good level of paranoia right there, you should go out a bit and take some air, I think you need it.

"I paid $10 for each update and sometimes $3 for previews, but I won't be silly again. Locked previews were made at the very beginning of June and July, but I see no reason why they could not be posted at previous months..."
No this wasn't calculated, nobody pays for locked previews, if you think I'm making a strategy around locking previews you are silly, the news was supposed to be released the day right before but I wasn't at home literally. And yeah sometimes it's more fit/elegant to have a preview happen on the first, instead of the very end of the month, especially if there were previews done the same month already. I like to have a regular number of previews/news available for a given month just like any content creators out there. Though it wasn't even the case this time.
All the news are public so far, people know for months since I warned in the first news about R7 that it wouldn't come out in June or July, so maybe read the actual news. I also issue a refund to any Patreon that complains and report to me being unhappy about something, you would have known that if you had tried actually to interact with us before going on your weird Don Quichotte crusade.

"Like I said, $10 for new UIs and bug fixes?" You do whatever you want with your money, I'm not pointing a gun at you and you are free to wait for a more meaty update if you want. The changelog is public for this reason so that you can know in advance.

" What he did on Patreon has already disabled payers to give honest feedbacks..." What the heck does that even mean? The patreon is literally working like any patreons out there.

In any case, don't have the will to keep up with this type of conspiracy theory and this board is getting an influx of trolls recently, just looking at the WaL thread is nauseating, so have all the fun you want in there and miss me with that shit. If someone wants to interact with me from now, it would be on Patreon or Discord.
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OK, Idk whether the news mechanism is real or not, but I deleted it.

The changelog: yeah, you can make it clear and price updates as you think, but people are free to be unhappy.

"I also issue a refund to any Patreon that complains and report to me being unhappy about something, you would have known that if you had tried actually to interact with us"
What you did not mention are removing these comments and banning people from Patreon and Discord at first. Tell me, how to interact with you and why after these? Respecting others is essential. Plz don't think refunds can cover insults while Patreon supports do nothing.

Don't always be irritable and exaggerate things. Only dreamer thinks a game can be done easily. The schedule is up to your team, but the feedback is up to everyone.

I know you always hate this forum and want a game server to pay for access, but plz don't abuse people. Is everyone a leaker?
 
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Baserios

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Hey Redikal,
I just want to be clear that I wasn't dis-credit you or saying that you didn't work hard enough. It seem you might've miss my point completely. Truth is, it doesn't really matter how big your team is or how hard you work in this game. What matter the most is the money spent vs the product. Like how some people bought cyberpunk and the product isn't up to standard. They won't care if the team work hard or not. They just believe it wasn't worth 60 bucks. And this is just one of example, I could use any other example if you dislike that one. And if it's like you said... "most people that support us know quality has a price of time" then there won't be any issue at all so there wont be the need to discuss about this. But since it keep coming up and I see you getting upset over them. it's very disheartening.

When I talk about "author left more to be desired" I was talking about your professionalism in these reply. It seem you are really upset and I can understand you. I truly am. But is there the need to be in such a way toward people who once support you or plan to support you in the future? Believe it or not. I am on your side. What I see is a project with high potential. I supported you. I left a feed back. If you dislike what people say about your game. Maybe it's healthier to not read them so you can have less stress and focus on the game instead? I actually do care about your well being. Many average consumer probably won't.

And when I said project is working at very slow pace. Yes... I did compare your game with other games who are also a small team. Not some big team on patreon. I am currently supporting many creator who are also working alone as a single worker as well and I am also working on a game myself. So, I am very sorry if my comment on your game being work very slowly get to you. That was not my intention. Although, I did expressed clearly that I will check back on your patreon again in a year or so. Patreon usually build on trust and if I don't think the project is being work on efficiently, I usually stop the support and wait and see. So, I won't pretend I am an expert and give you random advice on how to get more supports. Or tell you that maybe bigger team mean more content which result in more supports. I just simply can't guarantee those things. I didn't even want talk about money to begin with but you often mention it. Something like "the money never paid for the work we did" or "I was actually earning more doing pizza delivery". These are just not a good thing to see from creator in my opinion. But if you truly believing saying such a thing will help you and your game better then I won't stop you. Maybe you are correct and I am wrong about that. Sorry.

Now about what other people said that I see often about your game that isn't limited to just here on this forum. My question is. is it bad for people who are spending $100 so far to expect $100 worth of contents? Even for a small team? idk. That is a question that I wont know the answer. Just something to think about. This is a last message that I will be leaving here as I also am scare of the consequence of my action as well. I don't want to drag your game down or anything like that. But seeing your replied to these people really got me concerned. That's why I left that message. Something I don't normally do even though I use this board daily.

I would be happy to discuss with you more in private tho. So feel free to shoot me a DM.
 
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Okay so, since aparently there's no progress tracker, anyone knows how long will we wait till the next update? I remember playing this some months ago and there's been no changes since then.
 
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