VN Ren'Py Ergi [v0.93] [KKChar]

[poplo440]

Not quite. It was pitched that way, yeah, but when they started getting feedback about feminizing Britt, the dev made a Patreon post about balancing the 'desires of the audience with the artistic integrity of the writers' and how at least some of the endings are going to be about Britt going transgender. (This was back right before Chapter 2, as I recall.)

Which is why I've held off playing more of it until we see if they ever take him out of a fucking skirt. Because I'm not sissification/feminization fan, because you know, I'm gay. I like dudes, and I neither want to be or want to be with a girl, so those plot lines don't interest me all that much.

Wait what? I mean, ok maybe this game is not for me, im not at all into this, i mean, i dont care about britt wearing huldra clothes or being femenine, but turning into a trans character is a whole different thing. This really bothers me. So it's not a gay game, let's say there are 2/3 gay routes, but in the others you're basically going to behave like a woman, and besides, you can even change your gender identity. I was going to support this project on Patreon but after knowing this it's clear that it's not something I like. Well, it makes me sad that the gay romance genre is still so bad and that we have to settle for Asian VNs to see a romance in a video game between two well-done men. A game that seemed to have a good future despite the excessive grind, it turns out that it is being adapted so that the relationships are not between two men, but between a man and a gender identity that is closer to the idea we have of a woman. I posted a review on itch.io where I bought the chapters, saying that the game didn't seem so much gay to me as homoerotic because of how the relationships between the guys are carried out, now taking into account this context I understand why. I hope that when the full game comes out it won't sell it as a gay game, but as a game with high homoerotic content and with many routes with different men.
In the end this will result in another feminization game, like hundreds of games that already exist. But well it's what the people who paid for and supported the project wanted, so I hope they enjoy it, the only thing that bothers me is that it's still being sold as a gay themed game.
You can be a twink, or a girly boy and that's fine, obviously I already knew that Britt wasn't very masculine either aesthetically or in attitude and it doesn't bother me, since even I'm not masculine, but already talking about gender change, is something I don't identify with at all and it's not what I'm looking for in a gay love game.

 

[Whaori]

does anyone have guide for chapter 1...

 

[Argent Knight]

You can be a twink, or a girly boy and that's fine, obviously I already knew that Britt wasn't very masculine either aesthetically or in attitude and it doesn't bother me, since even I'm not masculine, but already talking about gender change, is something I don't identify with at all and it's not what I'm looking for in a gay love game.

So I went back through the Patreon posts to make sure I had my facts straight and I was wrong. The default goals are not explicitly 'transgender', but at least two of the seven love interests have paths where Brit will end up as a 'boy-wife' or 'two-spirit wife'. No actual physical transition mentioned, but he will present as a woman.

It seems like they plan on more than one ending for at least some of the love interests. I am still a backer because I'm hoping for some of them about Brit being happy with a dude (or more than one) as a dude.

 

[pilgrim2003]

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It seems like they plan on more than one ending for at least some of the love interests. I am still a backer because I'm hoping for some of them about Brit being happy with a dude (or more than one) as a dude.

Yes, so far it is happening. Or at least, in my routes

 

[B1smth]

C6 Vanir guide is out!!!

 

[B1smth]

Neither I am fan of sissification/feminization, but I think the whole Huldra dress with "skirt" has more a symbolic and status function and doesn't have too much impact on feminization. It only arouse interest of some other guys in Britt

Agree with this one. The regalia looks more "angelic" to me than "feminine" – which is perfectly fitting since he does both masculine and feminine roles in their society.

 

[pilgrim2003]

C6 Vanir guide is out!!!

Are you sure?

 

[B1smth]

Are you sure?

Says so in Patreon. Im not a supporter tho so I cant access. :-/ Hoping someone gracious would post it here.

 

[vichaboat]

Vanir guide isn't out yet. Would probably be released in 2-3 weeks. No one has posted an updated C6 persistent save yet for the gallery, but if you really wanna check it out now, you can datamine. Just get the C6_images.rpa file from to "game" folder and upload it to

You must be registered to see the links

. If you really need the guide, you can also check out the game's script by uploading sys.rpa instead. It just needs a couple of brain juice to figure out.

That is very clever ,Thanks so much but It is there anyway that I can have the text ? sorry to ask so much but I am not good at playing game and now I am struggling with final fight in CH 5 . I think I am gonna give up but still want to know the story

 

[pilgrim2003]

Says so in Patreon. Im not a supporter tho so I cant access. :-/ Hoping someone gracious would post it here.

Can you copy the link to the post? I am not sure if I see it...

 

[B1smth]

Can you copy the link to the post? I am not sure if I see it...

You must be registered to see the links

 

[B1smth]

That is very clever ,Thanks so much but It is there anyway that I can have the text ? sorry to ask so much but I am not good at playing game and now I am struggling with final fight in CH 5 . I think I am gonna give up but still want to know the story

C5 Vanir guide is at post #1030

 

[ncudr]

Wait what? I mean, ok maybe this game is not for me, im not at all into this, i mean, i dont care about britt wearing huldra clothes or being femenine, but turning into a trans character is a whole different thing. This really bothers me. So it's not a gay game, let's say there are 2/3 gay routes, but in the others you're basically going to behave like a woman, and besides, you can even change your gender identity. I was going to support this project on Patreon but after knowing this it's clear that it's not something I like. Well, it makes me sad that the gay romance genre is still so bad and that we have to settle for Asian VNs to see a romance in a video game between two well-done men. A game that seemed to have a good future despite the excessive grind, it turns out that it is being adapted so that the relationships are not between two men, but between a man and a gender identity that is closer to the idea we have of a woman. I posted a review on itch.io where I bought the chapters, saying that the game didn't seem so much gay to me as homoerotic because of how the relationships between the guys are carried out, now taking into account this context I understand why. I hope that when the full game comes out it won't sell it as a gay game, but as a game with high homoerotic content and with many routes with different men.
In the end this will result in another feminization game, like hundreds of games that already exist. But well it's what the people who paid for and supported the project wanted, so I hope they enjoy it, the only thing that bothers me is that it's still being sold as a gay themed game.
You can be a twink, or a girly boy and that's fine, obviously I already knew that Britt wasn't very masculine either aesthetically or in attitude and it doesn't bother me, since even I'm not masculine, but already talking about gender change, is something I don't identify with at all and it's not what I'm looking for in a gay love game.

i am not really sure how you jumped into the conclusion that britt is going to end up as a girl or as a third wheel in a relationship. you made assumptions and now are angry because you dont like them.

 

[ncudr]

So I went back through the Patreon posts to make sure I had my facts straight and I was wrong. The default goals are not explicitly 'transgender', but at least two of the seven love interests have paths where Brit will end up as a 'boy-wife' or 'two-spirit wife'. No actual physical transition mentioned, but he will present as a woman.

It seems like they plan on more than one ending for at least some of the love interests. I am still a backer because I'm hoping for some of them about Brit being happy with a dude (or more than one) as a dude.

from what was written in the patreon posts, each LI is going to have 3 possible endings- new world, old world and variant. each guy has a default ones if it is not changed in your gameplay. britt never saw himself as a girl in any of the chapters, so saying that he is going to end up as a woman in the relationship is harsh.

 

[B1smth]

from what was written in the patreon posts, each LI is going to have 3 possible endings- new world, old world and variant. each guy has a default ones if it is not changed in your gameplay. britt never saw himself as a girl in any of the chapters, so saying that he is going to end up as a woman in the relationship is harsh.

Damn ur on fire. Giving off one good point after another. Based on what I datamined as well (I'm sorry I can't shut up about it), these endings are probably about the paths. These paths have almost little to do with Britt's gender (or who Britt is to them) and more about the captain's storylines (or who the Captain will be at the end of the story). This could basically just be 2 or 3 worth of lines and utmost 2 special CGIs after C9.

Maybe it has some impacts every now and then about the game (such as C4's Civil War or C5 Confidence Borge declining a runka), but the game is carefully structured not to make any changes that are too drastic to avoid bugs. Renpy is a pretty rudimentary engine after all.

The best example for this is actually Jostein. Bringing Filippa to Alfheimr on C5 barely has any effect on Jostein's storyline because one way or another, she's always gonna get sick in C6 ending. If she's in Himinbjorg, the cold is gonna get her. If she's in Alfheimr, it's the baby.

They did this because whether or not Filippa: (1) is well, (2) sick/miscarriage, or (3) dead, then the devs would be obligated to make at least 5 new Jostein events for each possibility moving forward from C7 to C9. That's 15 events per chapter, wherein players can only really view 5 per playthrough. But that's not what they did. Doing so would be too laborous for a pretty scarce payoff.

My point is, the devs making Britt trans for a few paths is highly unlikely cause they would basically have to double their amount of code. I guess they can make Britt trans in the main storyline (not just something that will be triggered because Jostein is too straight), but that would completely close off Kirk's and Ralf's romance paths + just mess up the narrative. Again, more problems.

I get that all these rising sentiments is really just a complex frustration that the game is not designed to be masc4masc. And on that point, I agree with poplo440's point that it doesn't suffice to label this as a "gay game". However, it is for a different reason. The worldbuilding and lore has evolved beyond making this a simple wank material. All these discourse on how femme Britt should be hardly matters to me in contrast to the plot.

Lastly, the itch description does explicitly say "for LGBT adults" and "If you are looking for porn, you may not like this game". It does say "Boys' Love" and "Gay" in the tags but I reckon it's for SEO purposes. This game is still pretty gay after all – just a really complex metamodern type of gay.

 

[ORISZ30]

Can someone upload saved files up to CH6?

 

[RaulPa]

In CH6 Persuasive Quest - Elder Geir, is there a way to end up de conversation without the "I never want to see you again" dialogue? BC he is just hot as hell!! haha even enthralling (lvl8) ends up there and Yes i opted for the Seidr full three to see if I can take advantage of that, still waiting for it to happen.

Also haven't been able to complete understand this: I read that Anders, Jostein and Jorgen are PIUS

Pius with Valkires Tree looks for:
Jostein - Save women and unburn
Anders - FACE JORMUNDGANDR AND END JOTNAR TREAT
(They both seem to increase with Gut Choices Making Freyja your best selection for the tree)

But Jorgen seems to grow more with Passionate Choices which kinda makes sense as he is more inclined to Save Families at the Alpines but that will make in a Progesive with a preference for the Seidr Tree? Or a Valkyrie with Charm stats as Priority?

Does this kind of Decisions are really deeply implied in the game or i am just way to much OVERTHINKING?

 

[B1smth]

In CH6 Persuasive Quest - Elder Geir, is there a way to end up de conversation without the "I never want to see you again" dialogue? BC he is just hot as hell!! haha even enthralling (lvl8) ends up there and Yes i opted for the Seidr full three to see if I can take advantage of that, still waiting for it to happen.

Unfortunately, there's nothing else in the C6 script. You either convince him or die. No in between.

Also haven't been able to complete understand this: I read that Anders, Jostein and Jorgen are PIUS

Pius with Valkires Tree looks for:
Jostein - Save women and unburn
Anders - FACE JORMUNDGANDR AND END JOTNAR TREAT
(They both seem to increase with Gut Choices Making Freyja your best selection for the tree)

But Jorgen seems to grow more with Passionate Choices which kinda makes sense as he is more inclined to Save Families at the Alpines but that will make in a Progesive with a preference for the Seidr Tree? Or a Valkyrie with Charm stats as Priority?

Does this kind of Decisions are really deeply implied in the game or i am just way to much OVERTHINKING?

Their moral inclination (pious, etc.), primary stat (admiration, etc.), and dialogue choices (passionate, etc.) don't really have direct connections. It's mostly situational and contextual as to why some dialogue choices raise specific stats, but sometimes I guess they do coincide with moral inclinations. The moral inclination thing is I guess one of the unpolished parts of the game.

It says in C3 guide that Progressives/Pragmatists (Henrik, Ralf, & Erland) are the ones focused on saving the Alpines. But these guys hardly have any connection to it. I guess Henrik cares a bit, but Ralf doesn't particularly seem close with his parents, and I do remember that Erland deadass explicitly said that aiming to live in the Alpines is overrated.

At most, they only really used it to create new divisions in C4. (Pious = Fjord, Progressive/Pragmatist = Undercity, Idealists = Caverns) They might do something more with in the future, perhaps polish it a bit more when releasing full game, but as of now idk.

 

[RaulPa]

Unfortunately, there's nothing else in the C6 script. You either convince him or die. No in between.




Their moral inclination (pious, etc.), primary stat (admiration, etc.), and dialogue choices (passionate, etc.) don't really have direct connections. It's mostly situational and contextual as to why some dialogue choices raise specific stats, but sometimes I guess they do coincide with moral inclinations. The moral inclination thing is I guess one of the unpolished parts of the game.

It says in C3 guide that Progressives/Pragmatists (Henrik, Ralf, & Erland) are the ones focused on saving the Alpines. But these guys hardly have any connection to it. I guess Henrik cares a bit, but Ralf doesn't particularly seem close with his parents, and I do remember that Erland deadass explicitly said that aiming to live in the Alpines is overrated.

At most, they only really used it to create new divisions in C4. (Pious = Fjord, Progressive/Pragmatist = Undercity, Idealists = Caverns) They might do something more with in the future, perhaps polish it a bit more when releasing full game, but as of now idk.

Yeah I only see Ralf on the Progresive/Pragmatist side for developing the Cure along with Jostein, Erland working on the Tunnels seems more inclined to the Save Everyone Path unless their Security/Adversity Path has something to do with it or your Romancing them makes a difference. I see Jorgen more inclined to Save the Alpines as he was on the Family Matters Quests but so far Guides will be needed at least to understand the path/ending you are trying to achieve, one wrong choice in any chapter starting at 4 can make a total difference specially if you are looking the stats for the God's Blessings, taking care of the standings and the polical matters, it will get really messy if it turns out they are all connected lol

 

[RaulPa]

Unfortunately, there's nothing else in the C6 script. You either convince him or die. No in between.




Their moral inclination (pious, etc.), primary stat (admiration, etc.), and dialogue choices (passionate, etc.) don't really have direct connections. It's mostly situational and contextual as to why some dialogue choices raise specific stats, but sometimes I guess they do coincide with moral inclinations. The moral inclination thing is I guess one of the unpolished parts of the game.

It says in C3 guide that Progressives/Pragmatists (Henrik, Ralf, & Erland) are the ones focused on saving the Alpines. But these guys hardly have any connection to it. I guess Henrik cares a bit, but Ralf doesn't particularly seem close with his parents, and I do remember that Erland deadass explicitly said that aiming to live in the Alpines is overrated.

At most, they only really used it to create new divisions in C4. (Pious = Fjord, Progressive/Pragmatist = Undercity, Idealists = Caverns) They might do something more with in the future, perhaps polish it a bit more when releasing full game, but as of now idk.

Oh I kinda thought he was the one hiding in Henrik's route I totally messed up didnt bring Per to the other council member and i dont feel like going back 2 hours in my savings just to unlock that sex escene haha