Ren'Py Evalia: The Lust Kingdom [v1.27.01] [VelvetGene]

[straboavso1]

The ideas in the previous posts all sound very interesting and involved. I imagine it'll take some time to flesh the systems out properly. Will there be classes for characters, like warrior, mage, etc? And if there's going to be potions may I humbly suggest a futa potion?

Unfortunately I found an error while poking around, the first time an error's caused the game to freeze too. Here's the bastard:

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[Anon2298]

Honestly, I'd think it'd be way weirder for such a sex positive country to have a lot of virgins... or any, really.
Like, it's in the name: Evalia, the 'lust' kingdom.
I mean, I'd get it if it were some random NPC or maybe even a foreigner turned important NPC, but not a native citizen living in a country where getting publicly laid is common...

It's not unreasonable to ask for, I guess, but it 'is' logically inconsistent with the setting.

Also, it's not unusual for harems/power fantasy stories to have heroines with prior experience, especially if they're adults.
It'd be weirder if they were virgins honestly.
Take either Strive game. I can guarantee that not every heroine is a virgin....
Same with The Last Sovereign. Half the cast has slept with someone else... or a lot of ppl even. Hell, some of them were even widowed.
All I'm saying really is that while it's fine to want it, it's not weird if it's not either. If anything, it'd be weirder if the whole cast living on a sex crazed floating city-state were virgins... doubly so if they are important to the story and there's no good, logically setting consistent reason to be one.

I get that, is the lust kingdom, everyone has sex and sex itself is meaningless, however, the game naturally spawns virgins among the NPC, foreigners or not, so, story wise makes sense what you say, but the game still spawns virgins now and then, which means that virginity is not a disease that must be cure in the kingdom.

From a porn game perspective, is just lest fun having pre-fucked girls... I don't know, people may say that is good for characters with deep stories, which is truth, but when the game has short dialogues and ton of characters, some level of corruption and progression is needed.

 

[Crevanille]

I get that, is the lust kingdom, everyone has sex and sex itself is meaningless, however, the game naturally spawns virgins among the NPC, foreigners or not, so, story wise makes sense what you say, but the game still spawns virgins now and then, which means that virginity is not a disease that must be cure in the kingdom.

From a porn game perspective, is just lest fun having pre-fucked girls... I don't know, people may say that is good for characters with deep stories, which is truth, but when the game has short dialogues and ton of characters, some level of corruption and progression is needed.

Hey, that's why I suggested potions/spells to give you that option
And I never said it was a disease here. Just not to expect it and that it's probably socially rare. And no, sex isn't 'meaningless' to Evalia... Lizette made that view abundantly clear. It's just... not how most modern ppl would view it... Which is good. I like that kinda variety in cultural norms, fictional or not.

Also, like I mentioned with the Strive games or The Last Sovereign... there are quite a few 'nonvirgin' heroines. It's not that rare in porn games.
Like, have you played Harrm Hotel or Harem Residence? Half or more of the hero8nes there are explicitly NOT virgins and nobody seems to hate the games for it. Like, I agree it would be n8ce, but hardly realistic... yes, even in a porn game that's true.
Ever play any of NLT 's games? Hardly any virgins.

Hell, any game with literal MILFs would automatically NOT be virgins... and MILFs are hella popular.

So, I have to disagree about porn games being 'less fun' j7st bc they were 'pref-fucked'. J7dging a game with that metric feels like it's missing the point.

Now, wanting an army of virgin heroines is nice, but.... I'm not gonna hate the game's LIs if they aren't. Literally, all I care about is making them mine and nobody else's. Y'know, bc HAREM SU0REMACY!!!!
Priorities friend, priorities.

 

[boofboof]

Is there any way to make a non-futa female character into a futa?
Through save editing of any kind, or.

 

[Velvet Gene]

1. Thanks. And yeah, I figured you were working on the sweater thing. Sorry about that.
2. I love options! ...As long as they are both feasible and make logical sense for the setting, ofc.
3. As for the questing, exploring, and building up armies and flexing your political and military might to ensure your country's security... especially given we're a pretty isolated floating island city-state... yeah, we're gonna need to work with foreign powers and establish trade routes and all that. I never expected Civ level depth here, but just the thought of having those kind of things to think about as king is definitely pretty cool! Like, a lot of kingdom building games have similar goals and systems already so if they can do it, I know you'll show off something just as awesome. It's good to be King!
4. I'm curious about the faction system you started to implement. Will those have an effect on stat gains when interacting with them either in court or just on the street? Maybe even some quest type configurations? I guess, I'm just really curious about what it could bring to the game.
5. As for unique skills... Yeah. It should be interesting to see what you can come up with. Just don't go too crazy and overload yourself with work. That said, some standard blanket buffs/debuffs as like 'Commander Skills' would work if we're effecting the whole warband... like increaed money/item/ppl resource drops/plus or times X stat per Y turns/days or something? Somehthing simple like that could work I think.

To answer the question about the factions, I have already implemented a system for the Church faction where if you are popular with them, the priests in the city will immediately recognize you and get an Affection and Lust buff whenever they meet you for the first time. The more influence you have, the better the reward. They can also grow to hate you, leading to negative interactions in the first meeting.

Like I said, right now it only works on priests, and the only way to stack up points is to do the Ritual with Lizette and pick the Church-friendly options during the court event with the burned Church. In the couple next updates, I'll be adding more faction mechanics like this, and more court events to give you guys variety and more chances to influence the city factions.

Also, eventually, I want to introduce perks and special events that happen once one faction is more influential than other. Stuff like the Church generating more Religious and/or Lewd NPCs, nobles generating automatic fame every day, etc.

 

[Velvet Gene]

The ideas in the previous posts all sound very interesting and involved. I imagine it'll take some time to flesh the systems out properly. Will there be classes for characters, like warrior, mage, etc? And if there's going to be potions may I humbly suggest a futa potion?

Unfortunately I found an error while poking around, the first time an error's caused the game to freeze too. Here's the bastard:

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Yeah, that's a nasty one. I should be able to fix it quicly, but for now I'd recommend avoiding the flower stall, especially if you're on a date with a merchant character. Thank you for notifying me, by the way!

And to answer your question, yes, I plan to make classes for the different party members in your warband. Some will be unique and dependent on the character's profession, while others will be taught to them.

 

[user2020user]

Needs some optimization for laptops and wet sounds while having intercourse.

 

[Velvet Gene]

Is there any way to make a non-futa female character into a futa?
Through save editing of any kind, or.

Right now, the only option would be to enable console commands and type two commands:

$ [character's reference]_sex = "futa"
$ [character's reference]_futa = True

The reference depends on what character you want to change. If it's a VIP, it'll be "enpc" and the number of the slot you saved them to (for example: $ enpc6_sex = "futa").

If it's a maid or a prisoner, it's a similar process, but you have to replace "enpc" with either "maid" or "prisoner"

 

[Lebannenus]

i dunno if this has been addressed but i cant see the status icon anymore (book icon) is there a fix for this or something i'm not doing right

 

[Crevanille]

To answer the question about the factions, I have already implemented a system for the Church faction where if you are popular with them, the priests in the city will immediately recognize you and get an Affection and Lust buff whenever they meet you for the first time. The more influence you have, the better the reward. They can also grow to hate you, leading to negative interactions in the first meeting.

Like I said, right now it only works on priests, and the only way to stack up points is to do the Ritual with Lizette and pick the Church-friendly options during the court event with the burned Church. In the couple next updates, I'll be adding more faction mechanics like this, and more court events to give you guys variety and more chances to influence the city factions.

Also, eventually, I want to introduce perks and special events that happen once one faction is more influential than other. Stuff like the Church generating more Religious and/or Lewd NPCs, nobles generating automatic fame every day, etc.

Ooh, nice! And very dynamic! Looking forward to it!

 

[Velvet Gene]

i dunno if this has been addressed but i cant see the status icon anymore (book icon) is there a fix for this or something i'm not doing right

Yes, I've been notified of this bug already. Thank you for telling me, though. I'll release a fix soon that will allow you to toggle the button back on from the bedroom customization menu.

I think this might be a problem with older save files, because I did some testing and the book icon seems to be working correctly. However, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me when it disappeared.

 

[Anon2298]

Hey, that's why I suggested potions/spells to give you that option
And I never said it was a disease here. Just not to expect it and that it's probably socially rare. And no, sex isn't 'meaningless' to Evalia... Lizette made that view abundantly clear. It's just... not how most modern ppl would view it... Which is good. I like that kinda variety in cultural norms, fictional or not.

Sorry if it sounded rude, I just want some customization in this sandbox game.

Also, like I mentioned with the Strive games or The Last Sovereign... there are quite a few 'nonvirgin' heroines. It's not that rare in porn games.
Like, have you played Harrm Hotel or Harem Residence? Half or more of the hero8nes there are explicitly NOT virgins and nobody seems to hate the games for it. Like, I agree it would be n8ce, but hardly realistic... yes, even in a porn game that's true.
Ever play any of NLT 's games? Hardly any virgins.

Yup, that is why I don't like them.

Hell, any game with literal MILFs would automatically NOT be virgins... and MILFs are hella popular.

My only exception for the rule

So, I have to disagree about porn games being 'less fun' j7st bc they were 'pref-fucked'. J7dging a game with that metric feels like it's missing the point.

Now, wanting an army of virgin heroines is nice, but.... I'm not gonna hate the game's LIs if they aren't. Literally, all I care about is making them mine and nobody else's. Y'know, bc HAREM SU0REMACY!!!!
Priorities friend, priorities.

You are twisting my words, I say:

From a porn game perspective, is just lest fun having pre-fucked girls... I don't know, people may say that is good for characters with deep stories, which is truth, but when the game has short dialogues and ton of characters, some level of corruption and progression is needed.

Games with deep story and lore, having non-virgins is good story wise, (I don't like it but I respect it) maybe they where abuse or are divorced, struggling to find a new partner, etc., this game is more like a sandbox with short dialogues, customization is the main thing, as illogical as it is, the game can have a population with mostly males or females, so, wanting virgin side characters is not that crazy.

 

[kirto12]

Yes, I've been notified of this bug already. Thank you for telling me, though. I'll release a fix soon that will allow you to toggle the button back on from the bedroom customization menu.

I think this might be a problem with older save files, because I did some testing and the book icon seems to be working correctly. However, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me when it disappeared.

to add to this the status icon (book icon) seams to disappear when you use the let me help you with your outfit option on mpc's this happens even on new saves.

 

[Velvet Gene]

to add to this the status icon (book icon) seams to disappear when you use the let me help you with your outfit option on mpc's this happens even on new saves.

Okay, thank you for the information!

I did some testing with events that make the button disappear temporarily, but if it's the outfit I might be able to fix that.

 

[Crevanille]

Sorry if it sounded rude, I just want some customization in this sandbox game.


Yup, that is why I don't like them.

My only exception for the rule


You are twisting my words, I say:

Games with deep story and lore, having non-virgins is good story wise, (I don't like it but I respect it) maybe they where abuse or are divorced, struggling to find a new partner, etc., this game is more like a sandbox with short dialogues, customization is the main thing, as illogical as it is, the game can have a population with mostly males or females, so, wanting virgin side characters is not that crazy.

I never said wanting virgins was crazy. Just to not expect it in a setting where it wouldn't make any sense.

And seriously, if you dislike a game solely on the basis of the LIs are not virgins... You're seriously missing out on good games.

For me, the harem comes first so worrying about whether the LIs are virgins is.... kinda dumb. Especially if the MC is almost guaranteed to n9t be one either...

Nah, that hypocritical double standard nonsense just ain't me.

But like the dev said. Poti9ns will solve the issue and I'll just leave it at 'fundamentally agree to disagree' on your su0er narrow hot take on heroines NEEDING to be virgins.

 

[Anon2298]

I never said wanting virgins was crazy. Just to not expect it in a setting where it wouldn't make any sense.

And seriously, if you dislike a game solely on the basis of the LIs are not virgins... You're seriously missing out on good games.

Not missing so much.

For me, the harem comes first so worrying about whether the LIs are virgins is.... kinda dumb. Especially if the MC is almost guaranteed to n9t be one either...

Nah, that hypocritical double standard nonsense just ain't me.

Fantasy porn games.

But like the dev said. Poti9ns will solve the issue and I'll just leave it at 'fundamentally agree to disagree' on your su0er narrow hot take on heroines NEEDING to be virgins.

The dev seem to like my idea about side characters being virgins and having an alternative storyline, which adds more content and improves the game. Potions for futanari and other stuff?, sure, sounds like fun, For virginity?, that sounds boring if the girl has a ton of experience.

 

[Crevanille]

Not missing so much.

Fantasy porn games.


The dev seem to like my idea about side characters being virgins and having an alternative storyline, which adds more content and improves the game. Potions for futanari and other stuff?, sure, sounds like fun, For virginity?, that sounds boring if the girl has a ton of experience.

....Yeah, the dev actually said potions for virginity are a thing, like I've said/suggested. I... don't know why you're so invested in this ONE thing like it's the most important thing ever. And yes, I read the post where the dev mentioned it as an option you can toggle... which is STILL optional. All I mentioned with the potions/spells are suggesting MORE options. How do you not get that. Likewise, setting consistency matters when making features that MAKE SENSE.
Also, I NEVER said that no virgins are what I want or are okay on its own all the time. I'm simply pointing out that a potential LI NEEDING to be a virgin is NOT inherently necessary to enjoy the game. And simply hand waving 'fantasy porn game' like that answers anything is just showing you are willfully ignoring what ppl are ACTUALLY making as far as porn games go... But again, you do you. I'm simply pointing out the actual reality of things....
And while it might be boring to 'you'... that does NOT mean that it's boring to 'someone else'.
Again... I will fundamentally agree to disagree on you very narrow minded hot takes and leave at that.

 

[Crevanille]

Velvet Gene
Just curious... and sorry for the back and forth earlier. Just... some stances just.... yeah....
Anyway!
1. What inspirations did you have in mind when making this game? Setting aside, I've only found a few games that offer this particular approach to the sandbox experience. I think the only other only game that most closely resembles this for sure is titled 'School Game'. That's one's been in development longer but I actually enjoy this more. Any other ones even adjacent to what this game is doing are like... Strive 4 Power/Conquest.
2. Is this your first game? Just wondering bc it's got a pretty grounded and solid foundation for developing some pretty complex game systems. I mean, factions, high level of customization, management, and more. And all sure to get more polished and detailed with each successive build.
3. In terms of a 'long term goal' sort of trajectory:
- With respect to the battles and quests. Are you planning to create area maps for that, similar to the 'world map'?
- Will the endgame/ending reflect what choices you've made with respect to how good of a ruler you've been? Sort of like the 'Alignment endings' you'd see in an SMT game. Like, ending variations for being a good ruler, tyrant, world superpower? That kinda thing.

 

[Lebannenus]

Yes, I've been notified of this bug already. Thank you for telling me, though. I'll release a fix soon that will allow you to toggle the button back on from the bedroom customization menu.

I think this might be a problem with older save files, because I did some testing and the book icon seems to be working correctly. However, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me when it disappeared.

Can't really pinpoint but a bit after I hit the update game button in the bedroom

 

[Anon2298]

Velvet Gene, I noticed when the MC stops the rite, the other priests are piss off, which I think is great actually, a good detail, however, when asking to do the rite with them, it would make sense they agree to do so if that is what has everyone in the temple bothered.