As someone who mostly plays virtual novels i completely disagree with almost everything you said. I'm sure it is easy to blame the lack of popularity on the viewers then admit that the game is not as good as the others. I enjoy virtual novels more then this game because the story is usually better. Not that this game sucks or anything, it does gets repetitive quick.If you think you'll get much constructive feedback you'll be sadly mistaken. When I started developing for this game and on this site I had no idea how badly the "new generation" of gamers have devolved. 90% or more of the players on this site "download and ditch" and contribute nothing. They only post if they run into a problem or have a question. Even then, they are super lazy and don't even bother to research the problem or question in any way. They just expect a personalized answer and can't be bothered to lift a finger to help themselves. The answer to their question is often a few posts above their own and they are unwilling to read anything. They also can't be bothered to use the 'Search' feature (too much effort it seems).
Even simple problems cause most players to give up. They throw their hands up in the air and cry foul, complaining in the forum. This is what shocked me the most. The new generation of players (in general, not all) have no problem solving skills whatsoever. Even if they did, they are too lazy to use them. I'm not joking.
I grew up with gaming in the 80s to early 2000s. The Internet is a fairly new invention (at least for global use). Before the Internet became popular in the mid to late 90s, players couldn't log into the Internet and look for an answer. They had to solve the problem on their own. This taught players good problem solving skills which are severely lacking in today's generation of gamers. Modern technology has made the new generation very lazy in general. They also feel entitled and demand things.
Good luck but this is largely why I left. I was totally disgusted with the community on this site. We all get to choose how we spend our time. I made no money from the game and donated a lot of my time but I won't do it any longer for this new generation of players. I was totally and completely disgusted with what I saw.
This is why 'Visual Novels' are so popular on this site and take all of the top spots. As long as you can click a mouse or hit the spacebar you can play it. No effort is required. Players want to be entertained and not think too much. Visual novels are nearly 100% pure entertainment (like watching a show or film), you just have to click the mouse or spacebar to advance to the next scene. I believe this game was released towards the end of 2019 and it only has 16 reviews. If I developed a visual novel (even a bad one) I'd have more than that number in less than a month. The proof is in the facts...
I'm not trying to discourage you from developing this game. Do what your heart desires and enjoy life! I'm just warning you that you won't get much feedback from the community unless it is negative (players love to complain and most are very slow to praise if at all).
There have been a select few on this site that have been wonderful! Thank you for all of your support! You know who you are.
I've restarted the game and need a little more time to get this far.Has anyone been able to trigger both scenes? Thoughts?
Your response is a lot more genuine than the one you're replying to. He defines all non-positive feedback as hate and consistently blames everyone else for his own decisions, and has had multiple rants and borderline tantrums in the thread.~Snip~
What for such game is necessary?It does not contain the following features/tags: transgender, gay, transformation, feminization, and female protagonist.
I just recently tried this game, and was having a good time with it. But if you're leaving, should I just mark this down as another incomplete game, that will remain incomplete, and try something else? I didn't write anything, because I haven't really done much in the game yet.Good luck but this is largely why I left. I was totally disgusted with the community on this site. We all get to choose how we spend our time. I made no money from the game and donated a lot of my time but I won't do it any longer for this new generation of players. I was totally and completely disgusted with what I saw.
Everything noobtrain said was correct. You are twisting far too many things. He never expected the game to be popular. He knew that when he started. noobtrain didn't want or expect to earn money from the game. He never tried.As someone who mostly plays virtual novels i completely disagree with almost everything you said. I'm sure it is easy to blame the lack of popularity on the viewers then admit that the game is not as good as the others. I enjoy virtual novels more then this game because the story is usually better. Not that this game sucks or anything, it does gets repetitive quick.
Here is a list of reasons why this game isn't doing as well as virtual novels imo. Its in no particular order.
- Uses porn images( can feel cheap, some of us seen those porn before and A bit random at times)
- Other games have great art.
- The grind ( Grind isn't the same as making you think, its tedious)
- The interface is not clean or appealing to look at.
- Competition ( many options to choose from.
- Bugs bugs and more bugs.
- Lack of content (for a 12gb game it can get repetitive).
- "Even simple problems cause most players to give up" It's a porn game not Elden ring ( Most just wanna fap)
"They also can't be bothered to use the 'Search' feature (too much effort it seems)."
- IMO: if you have to keep searching the web for help on a game its a failure of game design.
NOBODY WANTS TO BE FRUSTRATED WITH A PORN GAME lol
Some positives that i love about this game
+ Doing evil for the lolz
+ Good sex system
+ easy to understand (mostly)
+ easy access to porn images
+ Interacting with Npc's
I agree that this generations is lazier but that's the point of technology, i don't get this argument. Almost everyone from previous generations wanted the next generation to have it better and easier then they did. Why complain when they do? I sort of agree with that most players don't wanna think too much but then again its a PORN GAME. Its suppose to make me horny and keep me entertained Imo. Also, i disagree with the praising comments. Idk about Evil 2 specifically but most creators focus on the negative comments over the positive ones. If the game is good people will praise it, its that simple. Go look at the popular games that are not VN's and go straight to the comments and you will find out that good games are praised frequently.
My favorite game is summertime saga. The story is better, the sex scenes imo are better, better game play and it feels more polished. it has its puzzles and moments were you have use your brain. Summertime saga isn't a virtual novel yet its done extremely well. another game that balances good game-play with its porn is Treasure of Nadia.
I keep coming back to Evil 2 because i can role-pay as an evil asshole in the game and not a lot of games go as far as Evil 2.
"you won't get much feedback from the community unless it is negative (players love to complain and most are very slow to praise if at all)." Are you looking for mindless praise? Negative comments and complaints always came with the territory. Every player is entitled to their opinion just like you, its seems to be a problem only if its negative. Too Many content creators have this mentality.
"I made no money from the game and donated a lot of my time but I won't do it any longer for this new generation of players." Thanks much appreciated (i still love the game), but if you really wanted the money you should've just went with a VN.
I think you don't know your audience well and the post seemed bitter. Your explanation seem biased as it completely remove blame from you and placed it on the audience. Your creating content for us( Gamers, not the other way around). Anyway those are my two cents.
Come on gandalf15 really?Funny! You want some opinions in a nearly dead thread after 6 hours after publishing it? The first post after that is your opinion on US? really funny! Give us time to play it before we can write something. Have you even played it yourself! What is your opinion about the update? Well that would be interesting and a really push for the ego of skybarbie!
- I wrote a 5 star review
- Love the game
- tried to help others for days on this site (yes it was annoying too sometimes)
- made comments which content could be added
- made my wishes what i would like to see in the game
- had a lot of trouble finding a way around those bugs
- needed a lot of hours just to figure out how to even get a good start (still love this game)
The Answer from Skybarbie (and i still think that he/she is one from the "older team") was that the most of my suggestion were going against the thought of the game and he won´t go against the original game idea. At this point i was out!
You know noobtrain? Your game inspired me to invest my time to learn this qsp coding SHIT (i really dont like it but it seems easy) because of this game. But when i asked YOU for a little help/pointers, i don´t get any answer. From skybarbie i just heard that this would be difficult or not possible. And after some "bugfixes" i saw that some of my ideas where now ingame (example - multiple marriage - start a harem).
I can understand if someone can´t handle critic. What do they think would happen when they release something? You guys make your own pressure to update something (skybarbie at least takes his time to test his new codes) just to get it online it seems, but with the most updates you fixed some bugs but you get other bugs because of the lack of testing?! And then you wonder why some guys just write (what you call hate) posts with complainings? Well, nobody is perfect, shit happens, then take the critics in and make some changes so that this game works. You said it yourself and others wrote it also, the most posts are negativ, because its easier and bugs are annoying as hell. So you play the game and get a bug? Write your post and tell the dev! You play the game and you love it? Write a review or a post and tell the dev (the next time i get online - or never)!
Oh, i deleted the videos where loud music is playing in places where i thought it was unnecessary and replaced them. So i made my own changes for this game. Also deleted the vids which genres you deleted (black, shemale and so on) and reduced the size of the folder. Some porn i like i made short scenes and put them into the game. Some where switched because they doesn´t fit to the action you choose (throat fuck when you select normal blowjob for example).
Anyway, i love this game. I would had loved when skybarbie where more open for teamwork (other users also gave it up to contribute here because of him or his "idea of the original game"). Noobtrain just update the op for skybarbie, so why do want others to publish their own stuff? They have to go now through skybarbie AND Noobtrain, no chance i would do something like that.
And critic on Noobtrain?
Well, i wrote a question to the moderators here "What happens to a thread when the dev stop his work on his game? Would a mod take it over?"
A normal and legit question, right? After Noobtrain wrote that he stop his work and won´t write here anymore i got confused because i wanted to publish my own changes to the game. But it got deleted from spectre (He/she was the only mod online at that time). Well, make your own opinion about this!
I can´t believe that i write again in this thread but Noobtrain can´t stop complaining. Man really, the most of us loved your changes and your work!!! And you just give up and goes the easy way, and just quit your work. Try to see the difference between all the critic/hate and the posts where the folks appreciate your work and filter it at the end. The critics that are rightful placed - work on it, the praise - good for your ego, the other critics - fuck that shit and throw it to the garbage and forget it.
There is plenty of content to play through with the current version. If sandbox games interest you, I would give it a try.I just recently tried this game, and was having a good time with it. But if you're leaving, should I just mark this down as another incomplete game, that will remain incomplete, and try something else? I didn't write anything, because I haven't really done much in the game yet.
As someone who mostly plays virtual novels i completely disagree with almost everything you said. I'm sure it is easy to blame the lack of popularity on the viewers then admit that the game is not as good as the others. I enjoy virtual novels more then this game because the story is usually better. Not that this game sucks or anything, it does gets repetitive quick.
Here is a list of reasons why this game isn't doing as well as virtual novels imo. Its in no particular order.
- Uses porn images( can feel cheap, some of us seen those porn before and A bit random at times)
- Other games have great art.
- The grind ( Grind isn't the same as making you think, its tedious)
- The interface is not clean or appealing to look at.
- Competition ( many options to choose from.
- Bugs bugs and more bugs.
- Lack of content (for a 12gb game it can get repetitive).
- "Even simple problems cause most players to give up" It's a porn game not Elden ring ( Most just wanna fap)
"They also can't be bothered to use the 'Search' feature (too much effort it seems)."
- IMO: if you have to keep searching the web for help on a game its a failure of game design.
NOBODY WANTS TO BE FRUSTRATED WITH A PORN GAME lol
Some positives that i love about this game
+ Doing evil for the lolz
+ Good sex system
+ easy to understand (mostly)
+ easy access to porn images
+ Interacting with Npc's
I agree that this generations is lazier but that's the point of technology, i don't get this argument. Almost everyone from previous generations wanted the next generation to have it better and easier then they did. Why complain when they do? I sort of agree with that most players don't wanna think too much but then again its a PORN GAME. Its suppose to make me horny and keep me entertained Imo. Also, i disagree with the praising comments. Idk about Evil 2 specifically but most creators focus on the negative comments over the positive ones. If the game is good people will praise it, its that simple. Go look at the popular games that are not VN's and go straight to the comments and you will find out that good games are praised frequently.
My favorite game is summertime saga. The story is better, the sex scenes imo are better, better game play and it feels more polished. it has its puzzles and moments were you have use your brain. Summertime saga isn't a virtual novel yet its done extremely well. another game that balances good game-play with its porn is Treasure of Nadia.
I keep coming back to Evil 2 because i can role-pay as an evil asshole in the game and not a lot of games go as far as Evil 2.
"you won't get much feedback from the community unless it is negative (players love to complain and most are very slow to praise if at all)." Are you looking for mindless praise? Negative comments and complaints always came with the territory. Every player is entitled to their opinion just like you, its seems to be a problem only if its negative. Too Many content creators have this mentality.
"I made no money from the game and donated a lot of my time but I won't do it any longer for this new generation of players." Thanks much appreciated (i still love the game), but if you really wanted the money you should've just went with a VN.
I think you don't know your audience well and the post seemed bitter. Your explanation seem biased as it completely remove blame from you and placed it on the audience. Your creating content for us( Gamers, not the other way around). Anyway those are my two cents.
I partially agree with you but this was stated up front in the game description:I would really like to request a rework of the image system. Images that are tied to the characters traits. rather than a gif of a randomly selected image, every character is assign a preset image + gif (plus minus some variations if possible) at character creation of each body part. we can let our imaginations stitch the different images together.
Describing a character with huge breast and then showing an image of a b cup woman is just super immersion breaking.
Game mechanics is great though. So good that at this point i rather just play an imageless version of the game since the image system is really non-ideal
I'm so glad you are the one that taking over that guy.I'm home sick today and decided to work on a small content update for the game. Right now I have two scenes/small events planned. I coded the smaller one already and am working on the 2nd one.
I'm trying to use the same writing style and format that noobtrain used so it feels like a natural event. Having played through the Family Trouble story several times I think I have a good feel for it.
I also reworked some of the code for NPC display such as facial beauty, ass size/shape (new to the NPC drop down list), figure, etc. The logic on some of that code was poor (probably from the original game). You'll see a lot more diverse NPCs after the change. Far too many NPCs felt like cookie cutter duplicates with the existing code.
I also fixed a bug that probably frustrated a lot of players. In the generic sex system there is a bug that could cause your dick to go limp when you had plenty of cum left in your balls. The only way to fix this was to use the 'Get horny and hard' cheat menu option.
It takes a while to build up your boxing skill to the point where you'll win fights. If you want to bypass some of the grind, use this cheat in the 'spectre1viper command injector':No matter how much I train I always end up losing the boxing fights, doesn't make any sense..
This isn't enough information to provide assistance. What operating system are you using? What language is the operating system? Is it fully updated? Are you using the QSP Player that comes with the game?she was doing
I followed the instructions and it doesn't work
qsp starts and immediately crashes
Players don't get the full picture by reading one of noobtrain's messages. noobtrain did amazing work for this game and he will be sorely missed! He added the most requested feature that players asked for - incest content with family (Family Trouble storyline). That was a huge effort and added a lot to the game.I'm so glad you are the one that taking over that guy.