Existing incest games have poor set up and poor stories. Some ideas for massive incest games.

Which of the stories i have mentioned do you think would result in best game

  • Oedipus

    Votes: 19 22.4%
  • Caligula / Nero

    Votes: 12 14.1%
  • Game of Thrones

    Votes: 12 14.1%
  • Family Whoring Game

    Votes: 16 18.8%
  • Sci-fi incest

    Votes: 20 23.5%
  • Savage is Loose

    Votes: 6 7.1%

  • Total voters
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I have been playing incest games since last few months. There is so much material out there in popular culture about incest but we still have shitty stories and shitty games (except a couple of good ones, like Big Brother). Some of them are just too dumb (use random magic and you are free to fuck your family, fight rats and zombies and shit etc. i.e no slow development of story to convince women to fuck them). Below are some of the ideas which could be explored by future game developers.

Oedipus
Player can act as Oedipus in a story and slowly convince mom for incest as well as rule his kingdom, including earning gold, punishing people, increasing his empire etc. The killing of father part may not be included (people would find it repulsive). These type of historical games need not have massive graphics. They could mostly be rendered in rooms of palaces.

Caligula / Nero

Similar to above, very detailed and strong story can be built around Caligula (Sisters) and Nero (Mom). There probably wont be a lot of convincing in case of Caligula as he was fucked up king and did what he liked, but there could convincing story in case of Nero. Good NTR stories can be added here as well (i.e. Caligula whoring his sisters to raise funds for roman treasury)

Game of Thrones
The most interesting character seems to be Geoffrey here. He can corrupt Cercei and Marcella as well as story involve lot of game of thrones shit. It might be better do it before Robert is dead since Geoffrey also went a bit mad (like Caligula) once Robert was dead. Getting Robert killed might be a Oedipus type of move from Geoffrey to get his mother and sister (again, people are likely to be repulsed about this). He may need to somehow kill Jaime as well. For NTR content, Geoffrey can nationalize whorehouses in kings landing and maybe allow Cercei and Marcella to work there at premium prices to raise money for the treasury.

Family Whoring Game
Similar to a Big Brother game but objective can be to eventually open a bordello and start whoring family to make money. Having cams in room may be the best idea to start and then slowly corrupt family like in big brother.

Sci-fi incest game

I have not come across single half decent incest game based on sci-fi. Something along the lines of star trek where freight vessel go across the galaxy and are mostly run by families as it takes lot of time to go from planet A to planet B.

Savage is Loose

This was a movie where a family (father, mother and son) are lost on an island and son eventually lusts after mother since there was no one around. Something like this could be created where the son convinces mother to teach him how to pleasure a woman when they are off the island since he has no one to learn from. An amazing story has been created based on this at literotica.

I have put NTR suggestions in first few ones but it need not be the case. Good games can be developed without NTR but i prefer NTR (It increases challenge without stupid rat killing games as well as i enjoy a bit of voyeurism).

Hopefully someone will take these up (especially Savage is Loose and Oedipus).
 

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I have been playing incest games since last few months. There is so much material out there in popular culture about incest but we still have shitty stories and shitty games (except a couple of good ones, like Big Brother). Some of them are just too dumb (use random magic and you are free to fuck your family, fight rats and zombies and shit etc. i.e no slow development of story to convince women to fuck them). Below are some of the ideas which could be explored by future game developers.

Oedipus
Player can act as Oedipus in a story and slowly convince mom for incest as well as rule his kingdom, including earning gold, punishing people, increasing his empire etc. The killing of father part may not be included (people would find it repulsive). These type of historical games need not have massive graphics. They could mostly be rendered in rooms of palaces.

Caligula / Nero

Similar to above, very detailed and strong story can be built around Caligula (Sisters) and Nero (Mom). There probably wont be a lot of convincing in case of Caligula as he was fucked up king and did what he liked, but there could convincing story in case of Nero. Good NTR stories can be added here as well (i.e. Caligula whoring his sisters to raise funds for roman treasury)

Game of Thrones
The most interesting character seems to be Geoffrey here. He can corrupt Cercei and Marcella as well as story involve lot of game of thrones shit. It might be better do it before Robert is dead since Geoffrey also went a bit mad (like Caligula) once Robert was dead. Getting Robert killed might be a Oedipus type of move from Geoffrey to get his mother and sister (again, people are likely to be repulsed about this). He may need to somehow kill Jaime as well. For NTR content, Geoffrey can nationalize whorehouses in kings landing and maybe allow Cercei and Marcella to work there at premium prices to raise money for the treasury.

Family Whoring Game
Similar to a Big Brother game but objective can be to eventually open a bordello and start whoring family to make money. Having cams in room may be the best idea to start and then slowly corrupt family like in big brother.

Sci-fi incest game

I have not come across single half decent incest game based on sci-fi. Something along the lines of star trek where freight vessel go across the galaxy and are mostly run by families as it takes lot of time to go from planet A to planet B.

Savage is Loose

This was a movie where a family (father, mother and son) are lost on an island and son eventually lusts after mother since there was no one around. Something like this could be created where the son convinces mother to teach him how to pleasure a woman when they are off the island since he has no one to learn from. An amazing story has been created based on this at literotica.

I have put NTR suggestions in first few ones but it need not be the case. Good games can be developed without NTR but i prefer NTR (It increases challenge without stupid rat killing games as well as i enjoy a bit of voyeurism).

Hopefully someone will take these up (especially Savage is Loose and Oedipus).
(except a couple of good ones, like Big Brother), lol you taking the piss mate?
 

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Voted Caligula/Nero, although Oedipus was a very close second. Not so much for the incest part alone, but becoz I like games like Civ, and there is unlimited potential for expanding the "family". Especially from new and exotic places. Throw in a little Alexander for the gays, and..... well Boudica I guess for the lesbians. (No famous lesbian comes to mind at present)
 
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"Massive game" and incest are contradictory. To make a game that focuses on incest, you're pretty much limited to a small group of people. If you include empire building or space faring mechanics, the incest will become secondary.
 

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I like incest games but at a certain point if they become too "realistic" it's like the uncanny valley effect, its actually a bit creepy and turns me off. So I'm ok with dumb fun games and see this whole epic realistic incest story as completely uninteresting. If I had to pick one of the above it would be the family whoring game because it is the stupidest.
 
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"Massive game" and incest are contradictory. To make a game that focuses on incest, you're pretty much limited to a small group of people. If you include empire building or space faring mechanics, the incest will become secondary.
I meant massive in the sense of having lots of images and slow corruption of family rather than just control mind using magic or artifact. Primary focus stays on incest but other things just as mechanisms to keep the games going (having enough money, impressing family etc.)
 
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I like incest games but at a certain point if they become too "realistic" it's like the uncanny valley effect, its actually a bit creepy and turns me off. So I'm ok with dumb fun games and see this whole epic realistic incest story as completely uninteresting. If I had to pick one of the above it would be the family whoring game because it is the stupidest.
If that's what you like than there are a million games already out there for you.
 

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I meant massive in the sense of having lots of images and slow corruption of family rather than just control mind using magic or artifact. Primary focus stays on incest but other things just as mechanisms to keep the games going (having enough money, impressing family etc.)
With that clarification, I whole-heartedly agree with you! I think what's missing in a lot of the recent incest games is small, everyday scenes. Also, random and progressive dialogue for the same scene to keep them fresh.
 

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The issue, boiled down, that you have is that you aren't happy with the writing, but you use story or world elements (existence or discovery of magic or zombies) as justification. Do you dislike the conversational and character developing writing? Do you dislike the story elements used for empowering the characters?

Since you named Big Brother could you share more of what you enjoyed to help us better understand your perspective?

It looks like the examples you cite, except the Family Whoring Game, would take place in worlds where incest isn't the taboo it is today. Either a world of antiquity or worlds of fantasy where your desires are limited by your ability to convince or bribe everyone you meet. Is that a close assumption?

Also, kudos for mentioning Literotica. I've been frequenting that site off and on for half of my life at this point, & I'm editing a story for submission.
 

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Oedipus was accidental incest. kinda ruins the story if it's on purpose.
Caligula was crazy.
Game of Thrones has incest, but the incest content occurred before the main story.
Family Whoring doesn't seem to have much challenge (incest is a taboo, it should be somewhat of a challenge).
Savage is loose = noah's ark...not many to things to have sex with. incest is somewhat inevitable.

sci-fi....potentially has the most possibility because sci-fi as a genre, covers a lot.
 

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Could you lay out anything beyond rough ideas? Because you're missing the part where an idea isn't something you release on Patreon, execution of it is. I can say a smartphone that doesn't use a screen and instead sends auditory signals directly into my brain would be great, but that hardly means much when I can't actually make it work.

So we'll go with Oedipus, ignoring the fact that Oedipus didn't want to have sex with his mother and actually went to great lengths to prevent it.

rule his kingdom, including earning gold, punishing people, increasing his empire etc. [...] They could mostly be rendered in rooms of palaces.
Those Ren'Py games you've been playing are essentially game-ified pornography. Even those, given a few meaningful choices here and there, take far longer to create than you think they do. Amount of art and writing required grows exponentially with complexity, and you're definitely asking for complexity. So you have to keep adding developers. 4000 euros pays a living wage for two western devs or a few russian ones. None of them are quitting their job for 2000/month when patron count can tank any minute. You could point at Big Brother, but that's an outlier. You are unlikely to recreate the variables necessary to get your game to 26k, which I have yet to believe is a legit figure and not Russians being Russians.

Then you want to have the game rendered? So no real strategic view, which begs the question, why have strategic elements? This is turning into a click-grind and we've not written or rendered a single scene. How are you going to make someone who wants to fuck mom care about running an empire he can't see? You now need to stuff all this empire complexity you don't have the manpower for, into minor graphical representations in a palace. You're now rendering and modeling (or worse, drawing) your ass off to create assets that aren't mom taking it up the pooper.

This game is dead in the water.

Sexual content in games will already have your advertisers running, never mind adding incest, so forget going outside the little Patreon development thing.

This is literally like asking "MILFs NEXT DOOR #8" to have Michael Bay-esque special effects and run in IMAX theaters.
 
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The issue, boiled down, that you have is that you aren't happy with the writing, but you use story or world elements (existence or discovery of magic or zombies) as justification. Do you dislike the conversational and character developing writing? Do you dislike the story elements used for empowering the characters?

Since you named Big Brother could you share more of what you enjoyed to help us better understand your perspective?

It looks like the examples you cite, except the Family Whoring Game, would take place in worlds where incest isn't the taboo it is today. Either a world of antiquity or worlds of fantasy where your desires are limited by your ability to convince or bribe everyone you meet. Is that a close assumption?

Also, kudos for mentioning Literotica. I've been frequenting that site off and on for half of my life at this point, & I'm editing a story for submission.
I dislike cases where 1) we are made to fight rats and zombies to waste time 2) there exists magic which results in controlling minds of family members and there is simply no need to convince them (superpowered?) 3) only a stupid excuse is enough to get to blowjob or sex 4) you are spending ton of time going from place A to place B (some of icstor games). Overall i assume if games were like good stories on literotica then it would freaking awesome. The detail and the development in the story i mentioned is awesome. Instead of wasting time in things i mentioned above, it can be spent on conversations and nudity, perversion and sex.

In Big Brother, I enjoyed the fact that there are monthly episodes and you slowly corrupt family without using magic, rat games, zombies and such stuff. You also dont spend time travelling from place A to B, its also clicking. Graphics are better than most games i have come across. Ann (the mother) is super hot. I also like the fact it doesn't have 20 characters to corrupt. Mostly its close family and that's what i would prefer (there is a game called son of a bitch which has fucking 50 characters - I generally try to avoid everyone except mom, sisters and aunt)

I am not sure incest wasn't taboo then. In any case we are playing the games now even though they are set up in different periods, so our minds will respond with modern mindset. It doesn't have to be a fantasy or a sci-fi world (family whoring game, savage is loose are set in current period) but i thought it would set the game apart from ton of existing games and would give the game a distinct feeling. People can relate to characters as they are from history. But as i said, it doesn't have to be that way.

Literotica is pure bliss.
 
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Oedipus was accidental incest. kinda ruins the story if it's on purpose.
Caligula was crazy.
Game of Thrones has incest, but the incest content occurred before the main story.
Family Whoring doesn't seem to have much challenge (incest is a taboo, it should be somewhat of a challenge).
Savage is loose = noah's ark...not many to things to have sex with. incest is somewhat inevitable.

sci-fi....potentially has the most possibility because sci-fi as a genre, covers a lot.
Oedipus: If its on purpose, i think it enhances the story.
Caligula was crazy. That doesn't make the story bad. He could be half crazy in this story.
We are borrowing set up and characters from game of thrones so people can relate. Our story is very different.
Family whoring game: Why would it not be a challenge. I assume convincing your mom and sisters to whore in your bordello would be quite a challenging thing to do.
Savage is Loose: Incest is not inevitable. They don't have to save human species. Noah's ark was end of civilization. Here they are trapped on an island.

I am sorry to say but your comments are at a very superficial level. The setups are not stories. We are using set ups and characters to create a story. We are not borrowing historical events as it is.
 
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Could you lay out anything beyond rough ideas? Because you're missing the part where an idea isn't something you release on Patreon, execution of it is. I can say a smartphone that doesn't use a screen and instead sends auditory signals directly into my brain would be great, but that hardly means much when I can't actually make it work.

So we'll go with Oedipus, ignoring the fact that Oedipus didn't want to have sex with his mother and actually went to great lengths to prevent it.



Those Ren'Py games you've been playing are essentially game-ified pornography. Even those, given a few meaningful choices here and there, take far longer to create than you think they do. Amount of art and writing required grows exponentially with complexity, and you're definitely asking for complexity. So you have to keep adding developers. 4000 euros pays a living wage for two western devs or a few russian ones. None of them are quitting their job for 2000/month when patron count can tank any minute. You could point at Big Brother, but that's an outlier. You are unlikely to recreate the variables necessary to get your game to 26k, which I have yet to believe is a legit figure and not Russians being Russians.

Then you want to have the game rendered? So no real strategic view, which begs the question, why have strategic elements? This is turning into a click-grind and we've not written or rendered a single scene. How are you going to make someone who wants to fuck mom care about running an empire he can't see? You now need to stuff all this empire complexity you don't have the manpower for, into minor graphical representations in a palace. You're now rendering and modeling (or worse, drawing) your ass off to create assets that aren't mom taking it up the pooper.

This game is dead in the water.

Sexual content in games will already have your advertisers running, never mind adding incest, so forget going outside the little Patreon development thing.

This is literally like asking "MILFs NEXT DOOR #8" to have Michael Bay-esque special effects and run in IMAX theaters.
Maybe i didn't explain properly. When i said complexity, i meant stories and not graphics. The developers don't need to model entire realm. I specifically mentioned that entire story can be in a palace or one or two other places. The details which i am asking are the details of conversation and story and not 10,000 images. These games can have similar number of images as BB or other games.
Earnings gold for empire is similar to earning money doing tasks in any game. You don't have to draw the fucking battle of thermopylae scene by scene. It can be a simple quick chore like it is in other games.
In BB, there will be a single image and it will have few lines of conversation and next image comes up and a few lines of conversation and so on.
I was only mentioning rough ideas because i thought these ideas and characters can be great setups for incest games. I am not building a game but i thought the people who are developing games may appreciate a few fresh ideas which have not been tried because it seems we have 50 incest games, mostly same in all aspects. If there are few good games i am sure they will receive some good money vs a ton of bad games where no-one receives money. Why do you think DS receives so much money?
I believe when the you know the characters and setups, you will enjoy the story much better even though the story is completely imagined and different from what happened in the setup originally.
Hopefully my my reply to FeaturedOn clears up further my vision.
 
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Also, whoever develops the below story as a game with nice graphics, is gonna receive $40 bucks per month from me at least. One change i would make is to introduce a new character, i.e. uncle of main guy or something like that. This could be optional for people, so people who want NTR can enable the uncle character and others can disable.
 
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I like your idea..
But unfortunately the problem with incest games are not the stories or scenarios..
49 out of 50 people who are playing Adult games don't care about the story, scene or game.
The only thing they do is holding down the space bar or clicking the mouse to skip all the text and go to the next scene.
Or asking about cheats so they can manipulate all the stats so they can see al the scenes A.S.A.P.
Idiots...

There are some games that tried to get a story, but then are getting critics from the horny idiots who only want to see the scenes and don't want to play a game for 30 Minutes without a scene..

Again.. I love your idea.... And i believe that a good story in a Incest themed game would be awesome...
I myself am taking a break of Adult(Incest)Games.... So many games in the middle of progress with monthly minimal updates that i'm getting tired of playing them all over again every month..
SO... Untill the end off the year no more Incest games for me....
 
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