VN - Ren'Py - Extra Credit [v0.9b] [Abere Lucifer]

This story has a lot of humor in it. Quite a bit of it made me laugh out loud. However it kinda gets played out after a while. The animations are lacking and the renders aren't up to standard. The story is all over the place when it comes to demonic lore. It's not one I think I will continue to follow. But again, if you're looking for laughter you will definitely get it here.

I'm really struggling how to rate this. It's... there's nothing here. There's a premise, there's characters but that's it. The game feels hollow, rudderless.

So there's demons, and Deities and the like but there's next to no exposition about it. They exist and if you don't know that and what they do then you're an idiot apparently. The game doesn't bother to explain anything, so accept it and move on.

There's characters but again, with no back story you can't care about them at all. And because you don't care about them then it's next to impossible to get invested.

So the story is a character narrating a tale to someone else and it's all a flash back. Who's the lad? Dunno, why's he interested? Dunno. Why is she telling the tale? Dunno. So the characters interact but they interact over nothing. There's no narrative pushing the game forward beyond a demon wanting to make you a harem. So any interaction is

Niki: I'm going to make you a harem
Eva: Niki Noooooo!
Niki:too late, it's inevitable
MC: well I guess I've no choice.

That's it. That's the game. Like you see some nudity occasionally but that's it. So you're not really getting a plot, and you're not getting anything spicy to offset it you just get random chatter and then you'll get a random bit of lore "oh Grimms love married women". Great cool, not sure what I'm meant to do with that but ok. There's also an issue where you have a character who's like important. She's the one telling the tale and she just keeps dropping in bits of trivia that has the MC going "woah wait what?!?!" like he's only now just finding out about it. But she's been living with the MC for like a decade so the idea at no point in that time did she mention any of the things that the MC is only finding out for the first time gets so old so quickly. The characters could be interesting but the story is trash, it needs ripped out, establish the characters and their relationships better and then build a new story on top. Cause until then it'll just get perpetually more and more bizarre. Feels like a devs first game but I know he's got previous.

Story 2/5
Story is a bit boring really and at most times it feels like a mess, also dident really get why it jumped to MC having sex out of nowhere, it kinda feels like its rape since they apprently is fucking him while hes sleeping? but never got the point of it...

Then theres some kind of relationship system but i got to say im not sure that it has any effect at all, the girls love MC and thats pretty much it.
Theres also a ton of text that are pointless, i dont mind some every day stuff talk but this just has way to much that has nothing to do with story or anything.

It feels very kinetic and i wonder why it dosent have a kinetic tag, but i guess there might be a choice somewhere that might matter? i dunno....but to me this is an all out kinetic novel and Ive never been a fan of forced LIs and sex scenes and this have that as well.

The faces really lack emotions as well its just 99% same stuff which gets a bit boring and the dialog and how each girl act are just to much of the same so none really feel unique.

Then theres the constant 4th wall breaking since story is apprently the past and its one of the girls talking to some dude named jack, what makes it even more weird is that the girl is with MC but shes in Jacks harem? and she dosent want to leave hes harem either? it just make no sense at all, then a little later she wants to be in MCs harem and then talking to a grown up girl Ally whos apprently MCs daughter? you just cant keep track of anything in this one.



Oh and on a side note, for a min in game they put in a cute catgirl to just forget about her? gimme a break....its like with Ashley she had cute twintails she got changed to just the run of the mill looking LI with a boring haircut, dunno if dev has something for girls with short hair but ffs change it up atleast a little....Eve shows with long hair in small text box image but shes short hair like everyone else....

Its also a very long slowburn you see a shitload of girls but nothing ever happens and it just take ages for MC to fuck anyone in the real world.
Also you seem to be following everyone else more then MC and when you finaly do see MC hes getting raped by someone.....and when MC finaly do fuck someone its some ugly ass milf with big saggy tits... thats when i had enough.

Its version 0.8 and MC has still not fucked a single one of the main girls...not one....its really not worth playing since theres just no content and story is a huge mess.

Girls 4/5
I liked most of the girls and the diversity in builds but i do like smols and hate big tits so im a little bias since this is mostly aimed for those that likes smols.

Animations 2/5
Short and quality is just not there.

Music 0/5
It really could have used some music, it gets so boring when game is just silent.

Choices 1/5
Its a pure kinetic novel and you have no controle over MC what so ever.

I hoped this VN would make more sense after the whole mental implosion the VN 23 sisters was. This is not the case.

If you haven't played 23 sisters, you won't make much sense of any of the jokes of this VN, and even if you had (like in my case) it still doesn't much more.

It heavily references the previous game, with no further context, assuming you remember every character and context of the whole mess it was, and the story doesn't have any value by itself, it only has it if you put it in the context of the previous game.

If at least the jokes were funny or original, I could add at least one more star, but it is rather embarrassing and quite forced.

All in all, even with the combined merits of this VN's story, "jokes", and lewd scenes, it´s not worth the time to read it.

I really should pay more attention to devs before I download games. Like doc's other games, this one looks appealing from the outside, only for it to break down into the same dumb vapid juvenile writing when you get into the game.

If you like Doc's other games, this is more of the same, if you don't, then skip. If you don't know Doc's style, it's immature, repetitive, and random. Every character has the same one dimensional sarcastic personality.

All that being said, imo, this is probably Doc's best game so far.

I must say, I started playing this game with no expectations, I started just for the girls and stayed for the jokes and humor, right away I already saw that this game is not one to be taken seriously in terms of the story.. but with the Over time you see that the game has a story that is a little more elaborate than it was at the beginning, but what bothers me a little about this game is that it makes you feel at ease and doesn't reward you later, you know? For example, the half demon who is your daughter's "sister" keeps teasing you, you really want to be with her, but you never stay because your daughter doesn't let you, but you also don't stay with your daughter because your character doesn't like incest, and the older demon who is supposed to be your main girlfriend can't have you because of a contract that sounds more like a gamble in my opinion.. and every time you finally get to be with someone, it's just a dream.. I don't see the point in getting so many girls into a guy if he can't really be with any of them.

I started off really liking the games put out by Doc5252, but it really has become tedious to play them now. Beyond the heavy dose of exposition, the characters are all so similar in their mannerisms. It just becomes a bore and lacks any real depth, which says a lot because of the forementioned exposition.

The graphics are decent enough as is the animation, but the characters are just not that good.

Would rather see a bit clearer storylines with less wall of texts.

Man, I really want to like this dev's games, but... I feel generous giving it three stars, it seems like it should be good but after a while you realize it's just tons and tons of pointless exposition,

I appreciate their sense of humor, but there's just no payout with this game. It's just dull. Funny once in a while.

Extra Credit is really fun. I am not sure what some people are referring to about the game having romantic scenes, in any way, with anyone else besides the MC. It doesn't. All the female characters are hot for the MC, and the MC only, if you are on the fence about trying it out. Those that are confused, play until the end of the last update, and all will be revealed.

What really makes this game very good is the humor. Practically every other line in the game gets at least a chuckle, and some are laugh out loud hilarious. Extra Credit jokes around quite a bit about AVN themes and tropes, among other things. If you've played a ton of AVNs like many of us, you'll most likely get a lot of the humor in Extra Credit.

It's a pretty good evolution compared to Doc's other game. It's still a crazy story, ultimately, but it has a more semi-serious tone that I enjoy. In this game, the characters seem more like actual people, only slightly exaggerated, compared to the over the top characters in the other game. Plus, you spend more time as the MC getting to know them, so there is that character relationship evolution that I enjoy as a player.

The only minor quibble I have is that in many of the scenes, the same couple of renders per character are used for tens of lines of dialog. I don't expect every line of dialog to have a new pose or facial expression, but it would be a big improvement, I think, to have more than two renders per character for a 50 line scene. It's not a deal breaker, by any means, which is why I rate this game highly, but it is a little distracting as a player, and takes one out of the immersion a bit.

But the renders are great, and a big improvement over some of the dev's earlier work.

All in all, its a lot of fun, and you owe it to yourself to at least give it a try. Most likely, you will find it quite funny, as I do.

Great renders and exceptionally cute girls (especially as they receive improved looks/hairstyles as the game goes on), slightly brought down by being over the top ridiculous and randomly introducing sex scenes with girls you don't care about (why do so many games do this?) that don't really get enough time, angles or buildup to feel worth the time spent to get to them... Beyond that, there's a huge disconnect felt between the player and the game, perhaps intended, but a negative for me all the same. One part of being too over the top and not having any stable base of perspective (an actually present protagonist, for example, which this game lacks) is that the reader is just kind of thrust into an unrelatable world with no real motivation to make sense of it like they would if they had a protagonist to latch onto and perhaps find some relation in said protagonists shared inability to make sense of what the actual fuck is happening at any given time. If that makes sense... essentially the game should be as crazy as it is, and that's fine, but being a floating camera on top of that just makes it all feel too disjointed. So, these are pretty meaningful negatives, yet 4 stars... well, cute as fuck girls do a lot for me tbh, but also the dialogue does grow on you over time -- while you never truly feel apart of it, it does still manage to follow some consistency in its insanity, and what starts off as a train wreck...well, it remains one, but overtime you kinda realize you have a fetish for mangled corpses and steel.

So, you've got the adopted daughter and her half-sister. The half-sister wants to build you a harem. There are devil children, ghosts, and angel children, sure got it. interesting... until you find out that the half-sister is telling the story to some different guy who she is now in his harem. They basically tell you right at the beginning of the story that 1 of the 2 main characters doesn't end up with you and is sleeping with someone else. I am sorry, I can't get interested in the story anymore. I've already lost interest in a major part of the story. What is the point of continuing to play the game?

Doc's games aren't for everyone. The same can be said about any dev, really. But there is something very fucking weird and exceptional about Doc's style. To appreciate his games, you have to either be completely depraved/ fucked in the head, be infatuated with lolis , pregnancy, and/orr incest, enjoy absurdist humor, appreciate satire regarding the current state of AVNs, be OK with the occasional fucked up looking 3d model, and you have to like character that are just plain fucking weird and quirky, and on some occasions, seemingly autistic.

I haven't played through the entirety of every one of Doc's games. However, I will probably eventually get around to it. These aren't necessarily the kinds of games that I feel compelled to get through right away. However, they are great whenever I am bored with what else is available or whenever I am just tired of playing games that are way too serious when I would rather just have a few good chuckles followed by a solid wank or two.

However, Extra Credit already stands above the rest of Doc's games. Yes, that includes 23 sisters, IMHO. Don't get the wrong idea- this game is still infused with Doc's signature style. But there is growth here. Or at least a change that I happen to like so far.

First of all, let me address something that is a potential deal breaker for a lot of you fucking nerds and neckbeards who have decided to read this far into this poorly written, drug-fueled tangent that I am hammering out while completely nude and sprawled out on the cold tiles of my kitchen floor, even though I was supposed to report to work like 5 hours ago.

There is a pretty huge leap in the quality of the art. Every now and then, there will be an awkward angle that makes a character look like a retarded mongoloid from Neptune. But I'm talking maybe like 3 or 4 renders rather than everyone looking like a fucking mutant throughout most of the game.

It's hard for me to refer to the player's character as MC. Because I would argue that the main characters are the ladies in this game. They dominate most of the scenes and dialogue. I'm not saying MC is a bitch ass submissive pussy. I just mean that he is not a fucking demi- god who shoots his cum off from the center of the universe throughout the entire game, which is basically the only goddamn character forumla that you will find in most AVNs lately.

MCs role is still essential- he is the reason the other characters even come together. I mean, we are clearly headed towards a harem-style game, and it is definitely MC's harem. But he doesn't seem to be making any deliberate effort to ceating a harem for himself. It's probably more accurate to say that the perverted females in this game are working towards building a harem for him. ANd so the game is more focused on their desires and efforts to make that happen.

Also, the player is not really looking through MCs eyes. Rather it is like you are an audience member/ seeing things from a 3rd person perspective, since MC is not even present during most of the scenes. This is not totally unique- there are a decent handful of popular devs who present their games in this manner. You will appreciate this perspective if you don't care much for the egocentricity that is rampant in so many AVNs. It does feel a bit passive sometimes, but that's fine by me.

The female characters are some of the cutest I've seen in a while and they are FUCKING HILARIOUS. And yes, many of them are little sluts. And I suspect that they will all become slutty sooner or later. But they are the kind of sluts that you still enjoy having around long after you have finished making your last deposit of the day at the cum dump.

Anyways, it's still very early. This 5-star rating could change. It's hard to say exactly where the plot is headed. But I'm excited to find out. And that's more than I can say for the majority of new games I've played over the last couple of months.

Girls are cute, but pretty much look all the same except for different haistyle. There is some nudity, but no sexual tension. It's essentialy just pictures of cute girls, all very harmless. Story and dialog is very boring.
Rating based on V0.3 Alpha

This dev has other games that he is still working on (One almost finished) that are absolutely hilarious. He has very quickly gained a reputation for having a completely warped sense of humor, and a mind that could make Kinko the Clown envious. This game is still brand new, so it still needs time for a decent amount of content, but it is well worth keeping an eye on.

Everything about this AVN is average except the dialogue/story. It couldn't be more boring. The same arguments between two of the NPC's are so repetitious that it becomes annoying very fast. The creator obviously needed a break from his other AVN and so made this.

0.1c

If you get a fresh IP and you get dumber by the second playing it, its kinda scary.

With one of the shortest and weirdest synopsis i saw here its more than strange that the game tells you absolutely nothing about why anything is the way it is... You just get thrown into the wonky story which btw seems to be just a story told from the past.

Maybe this game will get better but for it to happen, there is an extreme need for backround and explanations for literally everything happening...

Good demo, sweet and to the point. I enjoy Doc5252's humor so I might be a bit biased. Still hoping that there will be more in the future.

Just a bit of nudity, no sex yet, some tie-ins to his other games to give you an idea of the universe you are entering.

Seems a bit safer than some of his other works which I am a devout follower of, but than again it is just a small demo so only time will tell. If it goes beyond demo I will be back to update my review on the regular. Cheers Doc, love your work and regular updates on your supporter pages!