Unity Fap Nights at Frenni's Night Club [v0.2.8] [FATAL FIRE Studios]

[Bruh12333]

In my case I haven't even put much work in yet so wasn't that devastating.
But for someone who has almost to all unlocks?
I'd be pretty much pissed!

Yep I was one of those that would try to get every new scene in an update before development turned to making the game a gacha, it's honestly so bullshit they'd focus on resetting and preventing players from cheating rather than actually adding new nights or sex scene which this games sorely needs. It goes to show the devs don't give a single shit about their fans and players, and only have money on their mind. This is the type of shit ubi or ea would do. Fap nights started off so strong but at this point I only hope the studio sinks

 

[alexanderXD]

Yep I was one of those that would try to get every new scene in an update before development turned to making the game a gacha, it's honestly so bullshit they'd focus on resetting and preventing players from cheating rather than actually adding new nights or sex scene which this games sorely needs. It goes to show the devs don't give a single shit about their fans and players, and only have money on their mind. This is the type of shit ubi or ea would do. Fap nights started off so strong but at this point I only hope the studio sinks

the reason why there hasn't been that much content is because most of this game has been an asset flip a along hence the focus on getting what they are able to out most of the stuff in the game is just them reusing assets made by someone else and as result they have to spend more time fixing them so they don't bug out the game to hard wouldn't surprise me if they gave up because they ran out of things to use

 

[Chroomsh33333]

Wait.. so people are playing porn games... for the porn??? And they don't want to grind for hours just to unlock sex scenes that were made in unity? The horrors!
I'll never understand these devs' focus on making an anti-cheat, especially when the game is singleplayer. It's benefiting nobody and overall it's just a huge waste of time

There's an optional skip feature that unlocks all the scenes from the get go the first time you enter the videos tab on the computer. So if you just want the wank stuff then you have it from square 1. And since you are given 50k, if you've played in prior updates you would already know what to purchase for the most part to make your runs go smoothly with plenty left over to buy whatever skins you might want to see in the videos. The only real grind would be unlocking all the skins if you HAVE to have all of them. Then if your poses, and youhub videos are locked off. But then they also added a cosmetic to make that easier to farm (literally just equip the lorax outfit and set it to whatever you need, then start a mission, grab the scanner, make a scan, exit to menu and start over again). And if you look for the lost wallet and memorize its locations. You basically make 10k+ a night for the skins and anything else you need, add that to playing easy mode and stacking mayo jars, it's not that bad. I'm not saying some people wont be bothered by the update resetting certain things. But frankly the "grind" to get it back is pretty easy and entirely optional unless you really really like outfit variety and poses and achievements.

The anti-cheat is dumb but if people care enough, they'll break through it. I had a 100% on my last game but I'm not going to pretend any of it is worth being disappointed over.

 

[Magical_UnKNOWN]

(talking about multiple comments that either hate the game for something either stupid or actual rage from wasted hours grinding)

I'd like to point out that they are paying people to create the game and assets and other things... THEIR ONLY INCOME COMING FROM THE COMMUNITY (or some having jobs and MAYBE investing that into the game), either from early access or from the loving support from the community... So ALL of their HARD WORK being wasted bc someone has infinite money and for a game that is HORROR AND NSFW that tbh is scary sometimes... To only be hated by the community for "bad skins" or "lacking updates or scenes/skin scenes" bc their patients being so bad that their tastes were also burnt along with it...

TBH it is stupid they RESET EVERYONE but they can't do much as they can't manually access your game files (auto update (etc.)) bc it ain't online lads, it ain't going to auto update... it's offline and also being a file on your "device" that you downloaded... And they might do some random stuff to update it and understand who's a rat and legit and reset them... if possible.
TBH if no one used it or even revealed it they might have not needed to add the new save system, soooo the community can only blame themselves.

They also have very few people in their studio so ofc it's slow (and mostly wanting to be paid for their efforts)... and people would complain no matter what as the devs have to beta test each one before giving early access or the full version while getting complaints that they are slow.

(Chroomsh33333 that's an interesting method... wallet gaming)

btw i don't think they are going to reset again when the next update is out as it's the new save system that will be implemented for every new update starting from 0.2.8... so you can do basically what Chroom said and get everything half intended before they patch it while not getting reset again... be quick :P

it's like asking 1 small studio/group to stop making their game, for them to hurt the commenter/community's' ego as they do it even thought it was good (maybe)..
from perfect (maybe) to a legend of the past. (except tf2 they got demo spawn killing death) (game could be good or bad... who knows not my desire to like nor hate it unless i actually played it much, though i did invest time a little so am a little annoyed about the reset)

TBH they wouldn't miss you if you were to play another game... there are better ones.. (eh)

Many people are right... but they are also not right... to an extent ofc. (i could be half right and wrong at the same time)

you know that many games that are single player (modern ish) don't allow you to cheat most of the time right? unless they are chill or don't care... *wasn't there a game like Witcher or something were if you kept on farming the cows or used some cheat to get some underwear (tbh i might be wrong about the underwear.) (or late game items in early game etc.) they would soft lock you bc it was unfair farming/exploiting a flaw of the system to gain items unfairly (cows) and mock you/shame you (underwear- cheat (maybe mistaken if it was this item)).

alexanderXD points out that... they are using assets from others and re-using assets as well (either right or wrong tbh)... they have to pay the rights to that model unless they are giving it for free (50/50 idk the community artist motives (or stealing it)) it ain't a bad move for people to re-use assets... it takes time for some ideas on what "it" should look like.

I personally don't really play this game much as there are many other games that are quick and easy (sometimes) and feeling like watching someone else getting it is better as... what's the point in buying it? (or downloading it free) to change their looks? like all you are getting is the option to get cards and outfits... that's it... and also to change the gameplay your way i guess.

 

[Mason12058]

My brain is so determined to 100% games sometimes that resets feel like a minor inconvenience it's been like that since I was a kid but still resets as often as fatal fire is doing and a pointless anti-cheat that doesn't make a difference because there's nothing it impacts if I was the dev of a single player game I wouldn't care about anti-cheat or about the mods people made unless it's outright illegal I would even endorse the modding community I'd only really care about piracy this whole mess is just rather pointless

 

[Zane Carlson]

There's an optional skip feature that unlocks all the scenes from the get go the first time you enter the videos tab on the computer. So if you just want the wank stuff then you have it from square 1.

Wait there is?
I wasn't aware of that.
How is that done?

(Chroomsh33333 that's an interesting method... wallet gaming)

As for the rest of your post I made a similar one too. ;-;

 

[Zane Carlson]

(except tf2 they got demo spawn killing death)

A fellow War Themed Hat Simulator connoisseur I see!

 

[alexanderXD]

(talking about multiple comments that either hate the game for something either stupid or actual rage from wasted hours grinding)

I'd like to point out that they are paying people to create the game and assets and other things... THEIR ONLY INCOME COMING FROM THE COMMUNITY (or some having jobs and MAYBE investing that into the game), either from early access or from the loving support from the community... So ALL of their HARD WORK being wasted bc someone has infinite money and for a game that is HORROR AND NSFW that tbh is scary sometimes... To only be hated by the community for "bad skins" or "lacking updates or scenes/skin scenes" bc their patients being so bad that their tastes were also burnt along with it...

TBH it is stupid they RESET EVERYONE but they can't do much as they can't manually access your game files (etc.) bc it ain't online lads... it's offline and also being a file on your "device"... And they might do some random stuff to update it and understand who's a rat and legit and reset or ban their IP..
Be grateful they didn't add any systems that would IP ban someone for using such exploits registering the motherboard (hardware ban) or location... TBH if no one used it or even revealed it they might have not needed to add the new save system, soooo the community can only blame themselves.
(^^^when i say community i meant those that did it^^^)

They also have very few people in their studio so ofc it's slow (and mostly wanting to be paid for their efforts)... and people would complain no matter what as the devs have to beta test each one before giving early access or the full version while getting complaints that they are slow.

(Chroomsh33333 that's an interesting method... wallet gaming)

btw i don't think they are going to reset again when the next update is out as it's the new save system that will be implemented for every new update starting from 0.2.8... so you can do basically what Chroom said and get everything half intended before they patch it while not getting reset again... be quick :P

it's like asking 1 small studio/group to stop making their game, for them to hurt the commenter/community's' ego as they do it even thought it was good (maybe)..
from perfect (maybe) to a legend of the past. (except tf2 they got demo spawn killing death)

TBH they wouldn't miss you if you were to play another game... there are better ones.. like bruh complain when you are the one making a game and understanding LIMITS from yes "we can DO SO humbly make it in seconds and perfect, IT'S SO EASY like AAA games with many bugs"

Many people are right... but they are also not right... to an extent ofc.

you know that many games that are single player don't allow you to cheat most of the time right? unless they are chill or don't care... *wasn't there a game like Witcher or something were if you kept on farming the cows or used some cheat to get some underwear (or late game items in early game etc.) they would soft lock you bc it was unfair farming/exploiting a flaw of the system to gain items unfairly (cows) and mock you/shame you (underwear- cheat).

alexanderXD points out that... they are using assets from others and re-using assets as well... they have to pay the rights to that model unless they are giving it for free (50/50 idk the community artist motives) it ain't a bad move for people to re-use assets... what you want a different crate that still looks the same but different somehow... ok *copy paste upside down- look it's different... "YAY dev we love u for new crate" or codes for hours for the same crate but RNG mesh/texture on the crate to satisfy the kids that want perfect ice cream

I personally don't really play this game much as there are many other games that are quick and easy (sometimes) and feeling like watching someone else getting it is better as... what's the point in buying it? (or downloading it free) to change their looks? like all you are getting is the option to get cards and outfits... that's it... and also to change the gameplay your way i guess.

i would like to note there are some assets that were straight up stolen without permission they already replaced the most blatant parts of it to the point the community has forgotten they have track record of doing it and while i can not confirm most of the current assets are stolen i do know that atleast one of them is still in the game due being in talks with other people around

 

[Zane Carlson]

wasn't there a game like Witcher or something were if you kept on farming the cows or used some cheat to get some underwear (or late game items in early game etc.) they would soft lock you bc it was unfair farming/exploiting a flaw of the system to gain items unfairly (cows) and mock you/shame you (underwear- cheat).

I am unsure about the underwear thing but as for the cow thing they added a sort of boss/entity/god that would make chase of you and beat you down for this.
It can be killed tho but is very difficult to do so.

 

[Zane Carlson]

alexanderXD points out that... they are using assets from others and re-using assets as well... they have to pay the rights to that model unless they are giving it for free (50/50 idk the community artist motives) it ain't a bad move for people to re-use assets...

Please be advised this is just clarification and explanation; I do not speak for or against the issues brought up in this post.

There is a difference between using premade assets and using a fully pre-made game (which I once made a post about).
Heck I am still unsure whether they are the same studio under a different name or if they took the game without their involvement.
But that is besides the point.
I've also heard read comments saying that the enemy AI is stolen and that it is pretty evident by how it wasn't designed for such a small play area.

The main issue with asset-flip games is that, although it is quick and maybe cheap, you must take a gamble and take into account that there is a high risk that the pre-made asset/s will mess something up along development or along development something breaks the pre-made asset.
Sure you have the things that you need right of the bag but if something you made starts to interfere with a pre-made asset it could potentially take you even more time to fix that and any other arising problems as if you had just made the things yourself from the get go or have someone create the asset specifically for the game.

This is the true current state of this game:
The flipped assets are causing very difficult problems along development and they have to slow down or stop development outright until this mess is sorted out.
This in turn cripples updates.
If we factor in the anti-cheat measures that they also seem to be focused on that game is basically at a stand still.
To mend this they throw in a new skin into the arcade mode together with whatever/any scene they may have finished to keep players occupied.

 

[Bruh12333]

So ALL of their HARD WORK being wasted bc someone has infinite money

TBH if no one used it or even revealed it they might have not needed to add the new save system, soooo the community can only blame themselves

How is me giving myself as much money as I need negatively impacting the devs in any way? Sure it might not be the intended experience but if the gameplay is tedious and now I'm being forced to repeat it all over again. No matter how easy it may to be to grind, that should NOT be a requirement. Why tf should I spend hours of my time unlocking content I already had unlocked?

you know that many games that are single player don't allow you to cheat most of the time right

No, the vast vast majority of singleplayer games don't give a rats ass about you cheating. It's only more recent games by predatory companies that pull this shit. Next you're going to tell me that always online drm like denuvo is protecting the devs.

I don't understand how anyone could bootlick fatal fire when they'll delete your progress (while only adding like 1 or 2 scenes) and prevent people from skipping their tedious gameplay that gets old after 2 tries. I should not have to grind for a porn game that only gets minor content updates every 5 months.

 

[Chroomsh33333]

How is me giving myself as much money as I need negatively impacting the devs in any way? Sure it might not be the intended experience but if the gameplay is tedious and now I'm being forced to repeat it all over again. No matter how easy it may to be to grind, that should NOT be a requirement. Why tf should I spend hours of my time unlocking content I already had unlocked?

No, the vast vast majority of singleplayer games don't give a rats ass about you cheating. It's only more recent games by predatory companies that pull this shit. Next you're going to tell me that always online drm like denuvo is protecting the devs.

I don't understand how anyone could bootlick fatal fire when they'll delete your progress (while only adding like 1 or 2 scenes) and prevent people from skipping their tedious gameplay that gets old after 2 tries. I should not have to grind for a porn game that only gets minor content updates every 5 months.

Can you apply these singleplayer games to free Early Access games? I understand the frustration but ultimately you're playing something unfinished. And I mentioned earlier, if you dislike the gameplay and just want the lewd bits, the game gives you that from the get go.

But yes, the anti-cheat makes little sense. Granted I would need to see how it actually works in order to really hate or condone it. I doubt it's as malicious as something as Denuvo though as Denuvo has a history of lowering performance and in recent updates we're given even more settings to alter (including a support feature for those who can't use anything past directx 10 which I actually appreciate). Still, I agree that it's unneeded. I just don't think the argument that it "removes" content and forces you to grind it back is fully justified though since most of the content people actually want to see is made available from the start. Sometimes when you update a game removing old saves is required as it could corrupt the file or simply wouldn't work. I'm actually more curious as to WHY the anti-cheat was implemented. If anybody has a quote from the creator(s) explaining their rationale, that would be appreciated.


-EDIT-
I think I know what happened. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I think slightly older versions of 2.8xxx do not feature the "unlock everything" option. The latest version does function for me however. If this is the case then I can understand why some people were annoyed with this.

 

[Alfamorfeus]

Anti-cheats, huh?
Don't tell me they're going to add multiplayer in the future.
It's crazy.
It's just my guess.

 

[Zane Carlson]

Now that would be absolutely wild!

 

[alkeszcsiga]

you know that many games that are single player don't allow you to cheat most of the time right? unless

It's a FUCKING PORN GAME, who cares?

as they can't manually access your game files (etc.)

That's called a RAT

take into account that there is a high risk that the pre-made asset/s will mess something up along development or along development something breaks the pre-made asset.

That was low-key already visible when night 2 released (separated story/arcade, arcade having crashes VERY often due to some glitches they were unable to fix). Not saying it's 100% stolen though, but as you already mentioned, they probably are already using some pre-made Unity asset for a horror game (and a pre-made AI as well probably)

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For realsies for a moment: The main problem (IMO) is that the game is extremely repetitive, and on top of that, a pain in the ass to beat/100%, there's only a few mission sets (still better than the previous A/B though), the game scenario doesn't change much beyond unlocking Bonfie, and there's like 2 updates a year, compared to the previous almost every other month update schedule.

 

[Zane Carlson]

Yes I agree that updates are happening too few.
And I don't mean just playable updates.
General information, state of development, anything would work really even if they openly say they didn't manage to do anything substantial.
A good update balance is at least 1 update a month.
Another thing is that info is most exclusively shared on a privat Discord sever.
Not everyone either has Discord, wants to join yet another server that they wont interact in or wants to pay to get into it.

 

[Hvallur]

Lets be real, they just can't make this mess of pre-made assets work to push any real updates in time, over a year without any story updates at this point, lack of development updates and all that
Because from the outside perspective they already have the working framework of the game, push out content onto it and you are guchi but what they released over the year can't even be considered a low effort
So i think they just accumulated too much bugs and incompatibilities in the code and dont have enough actual skills to make it work

 

[Zane Carlson]

10 bucks says they cancel soon after night 3 or even before that.

 

[DatWanGai]

Yes I agree that updates are happening too few.
And I don't mean just playable updates.
General information, state of development, anything would work really even if they openly say they didn't manage to do anything substantial.
A good update balance is at least 1 update a month.
Another thing is that info is most exclusively shared on a privat Discord sever.
Not everyone either has Discord, wants to join yet another server that they wont interact in or wants to pay to get into it.

This. I'm not joining Discord for information when you have at least two places where you're taking money from people that the information can be added to. It takes less than a hour per month to write up a report to tell how things are going, if I purchased your game on Itch.io I shouldn't have to go to discord for that information.

 

[Chroomsh33333]

Wait there is?
I wasn't aware of that.
How is that done?

As for the rest of your post I made a similar one too. ;-;

Missed your comment. For clarification, I believe it shows up the first time you enter the videos menu on the computer. However if you select "no" and want to actually grind the scenes. The feature will not appear again. I can only assume the only way to make it reappear is to wipe your saves or make sure 2.8xxx is at its most vanilla.

As far as the grind method. For pure cash I gotta disagree with going hard mode. The true way is to just farm wallets and achievements. For example, rolling 1000 times on the slot machines nets you 100k which some might find worth it (it's not). If you have a decent amount of anti-horny spray you can gang the girls up in a hallway or some tight area and just constantly spam them and get the "relax a little" achievement for every one of them (5k each making 20k for a run if you do it right).

The only issue with wallet farming is that every now and then you will get one very well hidden. Mainly one of them being in the vent leading to womens restroom. And another being in Fexa's room. Currently I can't find it anymore and I think there might be a hard cap on the amount you can find because I've looked everywhere.