Straight men are into being said knights your argument is silly. None of the male archetypes in the descriptions are sexualised. They are described with character traits and not visual traits. This is pointless.
Favorite game setting (Poll)
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- May 23, 2017
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Not listed in poll .but do like a noir settings old style detective dark undertones.Also like occult Vampires Demons etc
I've been afraid I'll be disappointed by Occultus, have you tired it, is it any good?
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Every character is sexualized in porn game, including male knights and more so male vampires. And disagreeing on my arguement is no reason to get insulting anyway.
That's not the subject. The poll doesn't say Sexy Knight, it says brave knight, does that make sense or do I need to write in crayon? By the way, previous to this, I've not insulted you personally, simply pointed out the failures in your argument, describing them as silly or pointless.
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Keeping your tone civil would be enough for a start. Ever thought, that this bravery might appeal to some women? Yet, the main issue I have with this discussion: The example are just that. Personally I think, posting examples wouldn't even be necessary. They are no more than a side note.
But thinking people are so easily swayed by a few archetypical character descriptions, is actually insulting their intelligence. If it said hunk knights and big sweaty orcs at fantasy and long penis-shaped tentacles at science-fiction, I certainly wouldn't have chosen different, because I know I like fantasy and science-fiction as settings. And the settings are the whole point of the poll, not the archetypes and that should be quite obvious to anybody, regardless of gender and orientation.
- May 23, 2017
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Seems ok but very early stages introducing characters.their are a few scenes in it.Bit of extended family plot going on but probably best to wait a few updates to see where it is going.Thats what i will be doing
Which is exactly what Zippity and I are saying. By including these you create a biased skew towards a sexuality that prefers women. If the description had said Sexy male knight and sexy elf girl or brave male knight and brave elf girl we wouldn't be talking right now. I can only be civil so long as a person is being reasonable. You are still arguing even though you have stated yourself that the descriptions are not needed for the poll to function as it was intended to. The descriptions contain the bias. Remove the descriptions remove the bias and the poll is fine. But no, lets keep arguing a bullshit point even though I mentioned that i understood your view earlier, and pointed out why it's incorrect. You keep trying to get more and more semantic but the language is clear. Yes, you can find brave knights sexy, but they aren't inherently sexualised. A sexy elf girl is inherently sexualised. Your argument is wrong give up.
Again. I get what you're saying, how it doesn't sway you. You are not a representative sample size. The fact that Zippity even posted the protest to the poll shows that it did sway their perception of the poll making their point fact that the wording of the poll would sway people. Every single word you've uttered since has been refuting a fact that is proven by their initial post's very existence. I'm sorry for having been harsh but I really can't understand why you're choosing to be so dense right now.
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I never said they are necessary. They are irrelevant and the idea that they could possibly sway anyone in any direction is just a far fetched claim not backed by any evidence. I think I made my point and had the more rational arguments for them, but I see no reason to discuss this any further. Sometimes it's better to agree to disagree.
Ok, your opinion on the way a person should interpret the descriptions has no bearing on the fact that at least one person already misinterpreted the poll. Do you not get that? Or are you so dead set in not admitting that you're wrong that you can't see that even 1 person misinterpreting the poll proves the point that the poll is open to misinterpretation?
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Dang, I'm a bit surprised at the poll results. Granted, I still with a strong 23 other people. I thought it would be more for fantasy over real life. But I guess that's the most open to RP genre there is. You can actually imagine yourself in daily life things easier than fantasy.
To each their own.
To each their own.
To be honest that seems like an accurate depiction. Most games are Modern slice of life or Fantasy in some way. The scifi is rare and horror moreso
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If I may weigh in on this argument:
How about you just update the description of the poll in the main post with a clarification:
"Due to necessary feedback I'd like to put forth that the following categories aren't to be defined by the descriptions following each option but simply are being referenced to the material with in, but not limited to said genres."
That makes everyone happy right?
How about you just update the description of the poll in the main post with a clarification:
"Due to necessary feedback I'd like to put forth that the following categories aren't to be defined by the descriptions following each option but simply are being referenced to the material with in, but not limited to said genres."
That makes everyone happy right?
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OK, but I see this as misinterpreting on purpose. Of course, this is a only a fine distinction, but still I think, misinterpretation by accident would be almost impossible. I don't try to defend the descriptions, they are unneccesary, but I still don't think they have any effect on the result and neither would they, if there were hunk knights and powerful valkyries instead of brave knights and cute elf girls.
But, yes, a description is not necessary. If you want some more archetypes for women: big sweaty barbarians, charming vampires, hot gigolos and hunk cyborgs.
But, yes, a description is not necessary. If you want some more archetypes for women: big sweaty barbarians, charming vampires, hot gigolos and hunk cyborgs.
You'd be surprised. The wording on a poll can sway the opinion of the polled person widely. Its why, for instance, political polls are so far off.
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I still find it unlikely, that the wording would sway someone based on fetishes, but if you wanted to go 100% sure and still wanted a description (maybe for people who are not used to the terms for the settings?) you would have to exclude all archetypes, so no one could see something in the poll he or she has fetish for or is repulsed by. So then it would be:
Fantasy: Magic, fortresses, castles, middle ages, elves, dwarves, dragons
Science-Fiction: Future, space-travel, foreign planets, alien species, cyborgs
Daily live: schools, hospitals, universities, police, suburbs, realism, this world 2018
Horror: Jump scares, blood, undead, mad science, monsters
Doesn't Matter: I Don't care for background, only the sex.
Fantasy: Magic, fortresses, castles, middle ages, elves, dwarves, dragons
Science-Fiction: Future, space-travel, foreign planets, alien species, cyborgs
Daily live: schools, hospitals, universities, police, suburbs, realism, this world 2018
Horror: Jump scares, blood, undead, mad science, monsters
Doesn't Matter: I Don't care for background, only the sex.
the wording does matter because there are many different types of thing in setting for school-setting there are monster schools and human,elf and so on. if u don't specify than u don't know what your getting.
i personally don't want to see some ugly orc fucking a human chick.
i personally don't want to see some ugly orc fucking a human chick.
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Fantasy/medieval bores me to hell. Yeah, let's set our erotic game at a time when no one brushes their teeth, contraception is a thin piece of metal and medicine is just a question of how many leeches you use. Fantasy has potential for creativity, but... let's face it, it's going to be dragons, orcs, elves and all that goddamn recycled garbage from Tolkien. Such a stagnant setting.
Modern is fine, I suppose, but I associate it with unimaginative vanilla VNs.
Sci-if is great, not nearly as overused and allows for all sorts of gadgets, technologies, aliens... Usually, people who opt for that seem to have some kind of vision and ambition.
Horror often comes with more hardcore themes of reluctancy, bondage, domination etc. I have some interest in that. Just don't do the lazy thing of having zombie r*pe be the main focus. Zombies suck and are boring.
Modern is fine, I suppose, but I associate it with unimaginative vanilla VNs.
Sci-if is great, not nearly as overused and allows for all sorts of gadgets, technologies, aliens... Usually, people who opt for that seem to have some kind of vision and ambition.
Horror often comes with more hardcore themes of reluctancy, bondage, domination etc. I have some interest in that. Just don't do the lazy thing of having zombie r*pe be the main focus. Zombies suck and are boring.